The "S**t Driving Caught On Cam" Thread (Vol 5)

[Redgate]

Experienced my share of sh*t driving yesterday around lunch time on the M25 (it had been a while). The motorway was a bit busy but I was in lane 2 overtaking lorries at around 65 mph. All of a sudden my wife starts screaming and within a split second a Vauxhall Astra comes flying by in L1 undertaking us and forcing its way into L2 (where we were) to avoid crashing in the back of the lorry I was about to overtake. Luckily there was nobody next to us in L3 as I had to swerve to avoid contact. It's the 2nd time since I have been driving I wish I had a dash-cam. Anyways we managed to follow them and we have their reg but I really doubt the police will be interested.

[Glenn63]

WarrenB said:

saaby93 said:

Where does it say skip ahead in the HC?
Whats the betting the Tesla pull was to give a talk about skipping ahead, failing to merge in turn and slowing down everyone else in the queue?

https://www.highwaycodeuk.co.uk/multi-lane-carriageways.html

See Rule 134 above.

'You should follow the signs and road markings and get into the lane as directed' You are not directed to merge a mile away from the road works. Merging at the merge point is not skipping ahead.

If everyone else merged correctly and at the actual merge point then the rest wouldn’t be able to ‘skip ahead’. Drive to the merge point, and then merge in turn, is the correct and very simple way of merging yet some find it very difficult to understand.

[Gogoplata]

Driver101 said:

This week's YouTube video.

https://youtu.be/ORxwRiopO2s

@02:03

There seems to be a trend that DCWs really don't like letting busses out of junctions do they?

[Krikkit]

Gogoplata said:

Driver101 said:

This week's YouTube video.

https://youtu.be/ORxwRiopO2s

@02:03

There seems to be a trend that DCWs really don't like letting busses out of junctions do they?

True, equally the bus is taking the piss there, as they often do by pulling straight onto a busy road/roundabout and expecting everyone else to just stop for them. Even without the dashcam wkery the cam car would've had to stop to let him out on what looks like a pretty quiet road.

That first clip with the insane people carrier, is that a crash for cash job?

[Psycho Warren]

What is with st drivers now pretty much always "revenge" brake testing when some one dares to beep them for their appalling driving?

Noticed that in a lot of these DCW videos and in real life. Someone nearly crashes into you by pulling out on you, cutting you up etc - it is obvious by their behaviour they know they did wrong and give no fks. So why the brake test when inevitably someone beeps them?

Some self entitled sense of "how dare they" when someone challenges their behaviour?
They genuinely think the world revolves around them?
They are just general assholes and react negatively to anyone or anything in thier way?

[Narcisus]

Ron240 said:

Narcisus said:

I drive carefully over level crossings but that speed was ridiculous and potentialy dangerous…. Almost like he was forcing the driver behind to stay exposed on the crossing as long as possible especially considering how he then accelerated away.

With barrier controlled crossings like this the warning lights will flash for 10 seconds before the barriers come down, and the DCW was only on the crossing for a total of 9 seconds so there was never any danger.
Accelerating away should not be an issue unless breaking the speed limit.

If you think 4 - 5 mph is ridiculously slow then at what speed would you drive over a crossing like this?

Whatever Ron lol !

[Krikkit]

Safe or not, driving that slowly over a level crossing = knob behaviour.

[Dracoro]

Psycho Warren said:

What is with st drivers now pretty much always "revenge" brake testing when some one dares to beep them for their appalling driving?

According to Highway Code, you should only use horn to alert another road user of your presence, should they not have seen you etc.

Although sometimes understandable, however, it's not meant to be a "Oi, you, I'm beeping to express my displeasure at your driving"....

[Laurel Green]

Dracoro said:

Psycho Warren said:

What is with st drivers now pretty much always "revenge" brake testing when some one dares to beep them for their appalling driving?

According to Highway Code, you should only use horn to alert another road user of your presence, should they not have seen you etc.

Although sometimes understandable, however, it's not meant to be a "Oi, you, I'm beeping to express my displeasure at your driving"....

Yep, would say it's about 95% of drivers in these clips are using their horns inappropriately.

[Bonefish Blues]

Laurel Green said:

Dracoro said:

Psycho Warren said:

What is with st drivers now pretty much always "revenge" brake testing when some one dares to beep them for their appalling driving?

According to Highway Code, you should only use horn to alert another road user of your presence, should they not have seen you etc.

Although sometimes understandable, however, it's not meant to be a "Oi, you, I'm beeping to express my displeasure at your driving"....

Yep, would say it's about 95% of drivers in these clips are using their horns inappropriately.

I thought revenge horn was illegal now?

[Ron240]

Krikkit said:

Safe or not, driving that slowly over a level crossing = knob behaviour.

Ok then I will ask the same question to you and see if you answer it.

If you think 4 - 5 mph is ridiculously slow then at what speed would you drive over a crossing like this?

Have a read at both links, and in particular where it states you should not enter unless your exit is clear, so the DCW broke the rules.
https://www.rac.co.uk/drive/advice/know-how/level-...
https://www.bsm.co.uk/guide-to-level-crossings

"drive slowly and do not enter the crossing unless your exit is clear. Never drive nose-to-tail on a crossing, so even in heavy traffic make sure your exit is clear before passing through"

"a level crossing should be treated like a box junction – don’t enter unless your exit is clear"

Edited by Ron240 on Monday 21st June 13:00

[Laurel Green]

Bonefish Blues said:

I thought revenge horn was illegal now?

Highway Code said:

A horn should only be used when warning someone of any danger due to another vehicle or any other kind of danger, and not to indicate your annoyance.
It is illegal to use a horn on a moving vehicle on a restricted road, basically a road that has street lights and a 30 mph limit, between the times of 11:30 p.m. and 07:00 a.m.

Driversprep.com said:

Unnecessary use of the horn is a sign of aggressive driving and may result in a ticket.

So yep, would seem it is illegal.

[Bonefish Blues]

Laurel Green said:

Bonefish Blues said:

I thought revenge horn was illegal now?

Highway Code said:

A horn should only be used when warning someone of any danger due to another vehicle or any other kind of danger, and not to indicate your annoyance.
It is illegal to use a horn on a moving vehicle on a restricted road, basically a road that has street lights and a 30 mph limit, between the times of 11:30 p.m. and 07:00 a.m.

Driversprep.com said:

Unnecessary use of the horn is a sign of aggressive driving and may result in a ticket.

So yep, would seem it is illegal.

https://www.askthe.police.uk/content/Q834.htm

[Muddle238]

Narcisus said:

Ron240 said:

Narcisus said:

I drive carefully over level crossings but that speed was ridiculous and potentialy dangerous…. Almost like he was forcing the driver behind to stay exposed on the crossing as long as possible especially considering how he then accelerated away.

With barrier controlled crossings like this the warning lights will flash for 10 seconds before the barriers come down, and the DCW was only on the crossing for a total of 9 seconds so there was never any danger.
Accelerating away should not be an issue unless breaking the speed limit.

If you think 4 - 5 mph is ridiculously slow then at what speed would you drive over a crossing like this?

Whatever Ron lol !

I wondered whether the driver had delicate or fragile cargo onboard. Whenever I’ve been carrying something fragile in the car, for example a glass table, you generally hear it rattling away in the background over even “smooth” road surfaces, despite padding or protection.

I know that if I had to cross that level crossing, I would be taking it easy if I was carrying something fragile. Short of a sign in the rear window stating “FRAGILE CARGO ONBOARD”, there’s no way to convey the situation to the following vehicles.

Personally I didn’t think it was worth of a dash cam clip. Could be so many legitimate reasons for crossing an uneven road surface slowly.

[Laurel Green]

Bonefish Blues said:

https://www.askthe.police.uk/content/Q834.htm

Checklist now updated before driving off; Check oil, tyres, water, fuel, flies!

[Muddle238]

saaby93 said:

Both parties who do it wrong lead to congestion
Those merging too early and those skipping to the front causing the congested lane not to move

'in turn' is the important part of ' merge in turn'
Anyone jumping their turn isnt helping
The truck drivers have it right who hold station trying to make both lanes move at the same pace rather than one faster than the other.

Merge in turn like a zip
If someone in front merges too earlier dont skip ahead, wait your turn and merge at the merge point.
The people alongside will appreciate it too.

Err, no, the truckers who straddle both lanes are very much in the wrong. It effectively becomes a rolling road block, which they don’t have the authority to perform. It gets dangerous too when a following driver thinks the HGV is changing lanes, so they begin to come past only to find the HGV swerve at them in a deliberate bid to block both lanes. I imagine the police take a very dim view of these road captains who decide for some reason, they are now the merge point and nobody should come past, despite in some cases being half a mile from the actual merge.

Then you say “if someone in front merges early don’t skip ahead, wait your turn and merge at the merge point”. Could you please show us where in the HC, it explicitly says that you should hold station approaching a merge if the vehicle ahead merges earlier than necessary? AFAIK, it doesn’t, it simply says you should merge at merge point, it doesn’t make any mention of how you should get to the merge point if the driver ahead merges early. That’s their disadvantage, but it doesn’t mean they cannot or shouldn’t be passed by those yet to merge.

[Psycho Warren]

Dracoro said:

According to Highway Code, you should only use horn to alert another road user of your presence, should they not have seen you etc.

Although sometimes understandable, however, it's not meant to be a "Oi, you, I'm beeping to express my displeasure at your driving"....

Thing is, its an assumption to assume some one cutting you up or pulling out on you has seen you so a quick toot as they do it would IMO be legally justified.

Holding down the horn for like 10 seconds like most the DCW's do is clearly not allowed.

Although in reality, 99.9% of people who cut you up etc saw you in plenty of time and decided to do it anyway. So you could then say no use of the horn is ever necessary?

[Krikkit]

Ron240 said:

Krikkit said:

Safe or not, driving that slowly over a level crossing = knob behaviour.

Ok then I will ask the same question to you and see if you answer it.

If you think 4 - 5 mph is ridiculously slow then at what speed would you drive over a crossing like this?

Depending on my car, and how rough the crossing is (this one does look a bit messy), 15-20mph usually. Cars don't fall apart if you run across some bumps like that, people who virtually stop are just being pathetic and selfish.

[RipTrip1]

Krikkit said:

Depending on my car, and how rough the crossing is (this one does look a bit messy), 15-20mph usually. Cars don't fall apart if you run across some bumps like that, people who virtually stop are just being pathetic and selfish.

This. There's little need to even slow down for most crossings, they're not speedbumps. Infact some crossings are on 60mph roads.

[Haltamer]

(Same incident, Different angles)

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMdAwTJ5h/

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMdAwtFr5/

Talent reserves all dried up