The "S**t Driving Caught On Cam" Thread (Vol 5)
Discussion
saaby93 said:
Garvin said:
Using all the available tarmac and merging in turn is clearly the sensible, obvious and correct thing to do. In my experience I would say that, unfortunately, only ~20% of drivers understand this. I base this estimate on the technique I have developed which has served me well over the years - cruise ‘calmly’ up in the under utilised lane to the merge point and do not ‘push in’ aggressively but wait with indicator on. Sure, about four or five cars will close tanks to prevent you merging but after this you will get let in calmly without a problem. Having ‘overtaken’ about forty or fifty sheeple all queuing in the ‘open’ lane the loss of a handful of car lengths is still a ‘winning’ position. Sometimes you will be even be let in immediately but I have never had to wait more than six cars at most.
The trouble is although that works for the pusher in - it doesnt work for everyone else behind.You can get so many people jumping the queue and merging in the last 100yards at the front that the back of the queue doesnt move.
The only way to get it working again is for people in the outside lane to hold station (no need to straddle) to turn the outside lane into a proper queue too , and both queues travel at the same pace to the merge point
Now I've witnessed this 'straddling' approach and 'holding station' and it doesn't take much thought process to understand that this is moronic. Firstly, where do you straddle or hold station? Right at the back, level with the last car in the queue on the oversubscribed lane thus creating a lot of wasted tarmac and queues going further back and potentially blocking other junctions unnecessarily? One effect of such moronic behaviour is that it results in some form of merging immediately behind the moronic blocker thus resulting in a sort of merge in turn but further back down the queue i.e. the sanctimonious moron thinks they are some sort of road hero but they are effectively just moving the merge point further back and wasting good tarmac - what's the point in that?
dxg said:
Actually, that is a sensible suggestion. It would move the bottleneck back to the intended location at the head of the queue.
However, it is entirely dependent on those in the ending lane to trust those in the unblocked lane to let them in when they get to the merge point. Because we're all a bunch of assholes behind the wheel, they can't place trust that to happen, so they will take their chances at some point ahead of the merge point and leap into any gap in the unblocked lane. And others will do so too and the actual merge point moves back down the road away from its intended location and we all stare at the empty chunk of unused road capacity...
It is, but in practice it’s nonsense for the reasons you state. The concept of queue jumping is the problem and while people think that way we’re always going to have a problem.However, it is entirely dependent on those in the ending lane to trust those in the unblocked lane to let them in when they get to the merge point. Because we're all a bunch of assholes behind the wheel, they can't place trust that to happen, so they will take their chances at some point ahead of the merge point and leap into any gap in the unblocked lane. And others will do so too and the actual merge point moves back down the road away from its intended location and we all stare at the empty chunk of unused road capacity...
Driver101 said:
The merge in discussion could do with its own thread. I didn't think it could be this long.
I agree, and I commented on this a few pages back.The fact that we continue to talk about it but still cannot agree how it should work, highlights perfectly why it causes problems on the road.
Laurel Green said:
saaby93 said:
Some examples of sighted merge in turn signs.
It's disgraceful that such signs are needed.I worked with a guy who was adamant that people who merged in properly were just pushing in.
Driver101 said:
The merge in discussion could do with its own thread. I didn't think it could be this long.
Neither did I. Some people need to go and drive overseas for a length of time, esp Italy, and employ some of the terribly polite techniques for merging and see how far it gets them. I've driven all over the world and in some pretty grotty and hairy places but I've never driven in a place like the UK where people get wound up over the most insignificant events on our roads. I genuinely groan inwardly when faced with a merge somewhere because you just know that someone somewhere is going to get all bent out of shape about feck all because they 'pushed in.' It really does astound me sometimes.
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t in my hands and clap than watch an Ashley Neal boring fest.Bonefish Blues said:
Spleen said:
Abbott said:
the persistent merge discussion is as tedious as the out of control puns in the Sean cookery Joke thread.
Can you set up a separate thread and Foxtrot Oscar somewhere else.
Can you set up a separate thread and Foxtrot Oscar somewhere else.
Just made a big mistake. I thought I would find and post some S**t driving to get the thread back on topic. I spent a lot of time on business in South Korea so did a simple search for a vid along those lines. It was like what I would imagine a snuff movie is like. Then they added in scooter incidents. Made me want to go back to watching "Kaammmeeeeraaa"
Abbott said:
Just made a big mistake. I thought I would find and post some S**t driving to get the thread back on topic. I spent a lot of time on business in South Korea so did a simple search for a vid along those lines. It was like what I would imagine a snuff movie is like. Then they added in scooter incidents. Made me want to go back to watching "Kaammmeeeeraaa"
I always thought Italy was next level for driving madness, but after spending 10 days in South Korea it makes Italy look like the epitome of polite and courteous motoring. Red lights being optional caught me out almost right away, and I still don't understand the roundabouts where people joining the roundabout and those already on the roundabout appear to have right of way at the same time. Blew my mind. Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff