The "S**t Driving Caught On Cam" Thread (Vol 5)

[Krikkit]

Laurel Green said:

saaby93 said:

ha 7:50
in fairness it does say queue in both lanes

Yep, hard to miss the sign. Incredible how many illiterate drivers there must be on our roads.

I can't believe how many there are at the moment... They put a new bus lane in on one of the main roads in Chester, which has immediately been suspended.

It was live for about 2 weeks and since then (6+months) it's been suspended with yellow signs every few hundred yards. Quite honestly it must be 90% of drivers just sit nose to tail in slow moving queues instead of sailing along in the unused lane.

Edited by Krikkit on Tuesday 29th June 23:20

[Blakewater]

Laurel Green said:

saaby93 said:

ha 7:50
in fairness it does say queue in both lanes

Yep, hard to miss the sign. Incredible how many illiterate drivers there must be on our roads.

I'd have been inclined to stay on her left side and block her at the merge point so the shoe was on the other foot.

[Laurel Green]

Blakewater said:

I'd have been inclined to stay on her left side and block her at the merge point so the shoe was on the other foot.

Excellent idea!

[saaby93]

Laurel Green said:

saaby93 said:

ha 7:50
in fairness it does say queue in both lanes

Yep, hard to miss the sign. Incredible how many illiterate drivers there must be on our roads.

When the camera was spun round though, it showed it was working with two full queues ready to zip merge in turn.
The question is that once those two queues reached the merge point did it continue for the rest of the day?
Or did it revert to normal with some people merging early and some jumping their turn to the front ?

[Gary C]

Mandat said:

Laurel Green said:

saaby93 said:

ha 7:50
in fairness it does say queue in both lanes

Yep, hard to miss the sign. Incredible how many illiterate drivers there must be on our roads.

If someone is stupid enough to not understand how merge in turn is supposed to work in the first place, then placing extra signs to remind them is not going to help much.

We used to have a merge in turn near me. Some knob decided not to and pulled forward to block me

me "the sign says merge in turn !"

him "does it ?"

me "oh, sorry, didn't realise you cant read"

[Glenn63]

saaby93 said:

Laurel Green said:

saaby93 said:

ha 7:50
in fairness it does say queue in both lanes

Yep, hard to miss the sign. Incredible how many illiterate drivers there must be on our roads.

When the camera was spun round though, it showed it was working with two full queues ready to zip merge in turn.
The question is that once those two queues reached the merge point did it continue for the rest of the day?
Or did it revert to normal with some people merging early and some jumping their turn to the front ?

If everyone merged correctly at the actual merge point then people wouldn’t be able to ‘jump their turn’.

[L_G]

Glenn63 said:

If everyone merged correctly at the actual merge point then people wouldn’t be able to ‘jump their turn’.

Indeed, the problem arises because people try and be 'helpful' and change lane too early.

[saaby93]

L_G said:

Glenn63 said:

If everyone merged correctly at the actual merge point then people wouldn’t be able to ‘jump their turn’.

Indeed, the problem arises because people try and be 'helpful' and change lane too early.

Indeed too and others think theyre being 'helpful' by skipping ahead.
Are there enough PHers to follow suit with the video and eventually get the message across?
Queue alongside in both lanes until you reach the merge

[Garvin]

L_G said:

Glenn63 said:

If everyone merged correctly at the actual merge point then people wouldn’t be able to ‘jump their turn’.

Indeed, the problem arises because people try and be 'helpful' and change lane too early.

Of course. The issue is then what is the 'right' point of too early? 100yds, 200yds, 400yds . . . . . . . . ? Whatever, it just opens up the opportunity for some 'road captain' to choose to hold back the evacuated queue and form an effective merge point at some arbitrary position of their self centred and self important choosing. A position that is constantly moving and, well I'll be blowed, ends up eventually at the correct and only correct merge point . . . . . . . . only several minutes later and having caused immense annoyance and not some amount of road rage at their fkwittery. Rinse and repeat.

Anyone who condones this senseless and stupid activity should not be in possession of a driving licence.

[Dracoro]

Garvin said:

Of course. The issue is then what is the 'right' point of too early? 100yds, 200yds, 400yds . . . . . . . . ?

I'd say it depends on the speed.

If all the traffic is going about 1mph (i.e. stop start/vslow) then pretty much up to the bollards (lets say 50yds).

As a guideline, I would otherwise say up until the stopping distance (plus some sort of leeway). So, 100 yards is about the stopping distance at 70mph, so you'd want to have merged well before then, say at 150yds.

That said, at higher speeds, it probably doesn't make much of a queue (as traffic is flowing well anyway and plenty of gaps to merge into) if many people are in the merge to lane well before merge points.

In other words, the lower the speed, the closer to the merge point. If traffic is pretty much stopped then all the way (almost) to the merge point.

Merging too early (esp when traffic is stopped/slow) means creating a longer tailback (i.e. a lot of congestion in the merged to lane), if merge is not long after a junction, this can tailback to prior to that junction causing an unnecessary traffic jam (esp as people have to wait disproportionately long time to get off at that junction).

Edited by Dracoro on Wednesday 30th June 09:39

[thetapeworm]

I'm still full of guilt for driving for around a mile up the inside of a queue of stationary traffic and then merging, into a nice big gap, just before a roundabout that had a lane closed on it.

There were no "merge in turn" signs and I did think that the lane closure might start after the roundabout (I was turning left) but I was also confused at to why so many people were sat there when there was a completely empty lane to use. They all seemed to see the signs warning them about the work ahead and then immediately jump into the lane that would remain open as if they would never get into it otherwise.

No doubt a lot of abuse was aimed in my direction as I "pushed in" but it just made sense to do so, I felt I was doing the right thing in the circumstances.

[saaby93]

thetapeworm said:

I'm still full of guilt for driving for around a mile up the inside of a queue of stationary traffic and then merging, into a nice big gap, just before a roundabout that had a lane closed on it.

There were no "merge in turn" signs and I did think that the lane closure might start after the roundabout (I was turning left) but I was also confused at to why so many people were sat there when there was a completely empty lane to use. They all seemed to see the signs warning them about the work ahead and then immediately jump into the lane that would remain open as if they would never get into it otherwise.

No doubt a lot of abuse was aimed in my direction as I "pushed in" but it just made sense to do so, I felt I was doing the right thing in the circumstances.

Do you think it would help if they didnt put the merge signs so early?
I can think of a left turn junction on a DC (left lane left, right lane straight on) where they often close one lane of the DC about 100 yds afterwards
When they put the lane ahead closed signs too early most people get into the turn left lane rather than sticking with the straight on lane.

[Limpet]

saaby93 said:

Indeed too and others think theyre being 'helpful' by skipping ahead.
Are there enough PHers to follow suit with the video and eventually get the message across?
Queue alongside in both lanes until you reach the merge

A road I use regularly has two lanes that merge into one, with "Merge in turn" signs all over it, and usually has a small queue leading up to the merge point

There's always one (at least) in lane 1 who drives a fag paper off the bumper of the vehicle in front and absolutely will not let the vehicle in lane 2 merge.

That said, it is where I discovered that a slow clap, thumbs up and sarcastic smile is a far more powerful retort than the common-or-garden blare of the horn or a rude gesture.

[carlove]

Limpet said:

A road I use regularly has two lanes that merge into one, with "Merge in turn" signs all over it, and usually has a small queue leading up to the merge point

There's always one (at least) in lane 1 who drives a fag paper off the bumper of the vehicle in front and absolutely will not let the vehicle in lane 2 merge.

That said, it is where I discovered that a slow clap, thumbs up and sarcastic smile is a far more powerful retort than the common-or-garden blare of the horn or a rude gesture.

When someone behind gets right up close to the back of me, I slow and wave the car they’re blocking in front of me, even if I’ve already let someone merge. I’m not willing to have such pathetic behaviour going on behind. I normally get a big thumbs up from the car I’m waving in front and wavy arms from the car behind.

I do normally use the merging lane but one I use I turn off the roundabout into the merging lane as the first exit so I just stay in left lane and that’s when I see them behind behind tts.

[Gary C]

thetapeworm said:

I'm still full of guilt for driving for around a mile up the inside of a queue of stationary traffic and then merging, into a nice big gap, just before a roundabout that had a lane closed on it.

There were no "merge in turn" signs and I did think that the lane closure might start after the roundabout (I was turning left) but I was also confused at to why so many people were sat there when there was a completely empty lane to use. They all seemed to see the signs warning them about the work ahead and then immediately jump into the lane that would remain open as if they would never get into it otherwise.

No doubt a lot of abuse was aimed in my direction as I "pushed in" but it just made sense to do so, I felt I was doing the right thing in the circumstances.

I felt some when I was going to our eldest passing out parade.

The satnav had us 1 hour late, until we went all the way down the open lane to the merge in turn point. Satnav suddenly reset to arriving 10 minutes early. Lorry was playing road captain and tried to block me but a bit of off roading put paid to that.

Felt guilty for about 10 minutes.

[Byker28i]

Time for some more video - US Style

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pvk7mTGz0s


Or Shots fired whilst stuck in a traffic Jam
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6OcoV4Xhc8

[mcpoot]

saaby93 said:

L_G said:

Glenn63 said:

If everyone merged correctly at the actual merge point then people wouldn’t be able to ‘jump their turn’.

Indeed, the problem arises because people try and be 'helpful' and change lane too early.

Indeed too and others think theyre being 'helpful' by skipping ahead.
Are there enough PHers to follow suit with the video and eventually get the message across?
Queue alongside in both lanes until you reach the merge

To be honest I don't think the message will ever get across to you.

[Blakewater]

Gary C said:

thetapeworm said:

I'm still full of guilt for driving for around a mile up the inside of a queue of stationary traffic and then merging, into a nice big gap, just before a roundabout that had a lane closed on it.

There were no "merge in turn" signs and I did think that the lane closure might start after the roundabout (I was turning left) but I was also confused at to why so many people were sat there when there was a completely empty lane to use. They all seemed to see the signs warning them about the work ahead and then immediately jump into the lane that would remain open as if they would never get into it otherwise.

No doubt a lot of abuse was aimed in my direction as I "pushed in" but it just made sense to do so, I felt I was doing the right thing in the circumstances.

I felt some when I was going to our eldest passing out parade.

The satnav had us 1 hour late, until we went all the way down the open lane to the merge in turn point. Satnav suddenly reset to arriving 10 minutes early. Lorry was playing road captain and tried to block me but a bit of off roading put paid to that.

Felt guilty for about 10 minutes.

It's remarkable how many people will rush to join a motorway traffic queue as soon as possible from the sliproad, sometimes illegally crossing over the chevrons to join as early as they can, rather than going to the end of the sliproad.

Going from the M65 to the northbound M61 there's an extended sliproad and you can get hundreds of yards ahead by going to the end of it and merging out. Yet many people will join as early as possible and end up far further back in the queue than necessary.

https://www.google.com/maps/@53.7243072,-2.6323571...

[WarrenB]

Blakewater said:

Gary C said:

thetapeworm said:

I'm still full of guilt for driving for around a mile up the inside of a queue of stationary traffic and then merging, into a nice big gap, just before a roundabout that had a lane closed on it.

There were no "merge in turn" signs and I did think that the lane closure might start after the roundabout (I was turning left) but I was also confused at to why so many people were sat there when there was a completely empty lane to use. They all seemed to see the signs warning them about the work ahead and then immediately jump into the lane that would remain open as if they would never get into it otherwise.

No doubt a lot of abuse was aimed in my direction as I "pushed in" but it just made sense to do so, I felt I was doing the right thing in the circumstances.

I felt some when I was going to our eldest passing out parade.

The satnav had us 1 hour late, until we went all the way down the open lane to the merge in turn point. Satnav suddenly reset to arriving 10 minutes early. Lorry was playing road captain and tried to block me but a bit of off roading put paid to that.

Felt guilty for about 10 minutes.

It's remarkable how many people will rush to join a motorway traffic queue as soon as possible from the sliproad, sometimes illegally crossing over the chevrons to join as early as they can, rather than going to the end of the sliproad.

Going from the M65 to the northbound M61 there's an extended sliproad and you can get hundreds of yards ahead by going to the end of it and merging out. Yet many people will join as early as possible and end up far further back in the queue than necessary.

https://www.google.com/maps/@53.7243072,-2.6323571...

That's one that gets me nearly every day. The busier and slower moving the M61 is, the earlier people seem to try and push in an already slow moving queue leaving pretty much all the slip road empty.

[Abbott]

FFS let it lie.