Would you replace this?

Would you replace this?

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Cylon2007

515 posts

78 months

Saturday 18th January 2020
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Replace, never skimp on brfakes or tyres they are the only thing that actually keeps you on the road. Simples really.

Aiminghigh123

Original Poster:

2,720 posts

69 months

Saturday 18th January 2020
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GinG15 said:
i cant believe someone is asking such a question.

obviously you MUST replace this tyre.....this is dangerous.....guess what happens if your tyre bursts and your are involved in an accident where OTHERS are harmed...i dont care abo9ut you...but i dont want to be THE other.

the MOT tester´s licence should get withdrawn!!!
Interesting you say his licence should be withdrawn. It was done at a council MOT centre.

DoubleD

22,154 posts

108 months

Saturday 18th January 2020
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GinG15 said:
i cant believe someone is asking such a question.

obviously you MUST replace this tyre.....this is dangerous.....guess what happens if your tyre bursts and your are involved in an accident where OTHERS are harmed...i dont care abo9ut you...but i dont want to be THE other.

the MOT tester´s licence should get withdrawn!!!
So you know more than someone who has actually seen this tyre?

Cupramax

10,480 posts

252 months

Saturday 18th January 2020
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Aiminghigh123 said:
GinG15 said:
i cant believe someone is asking such a question.

obviously you MUST replace this tyre.....this is dangerous.....guess what happens if your tyre bursts and your are involved in an accident where OTHERS are harmed...i dont care abo9ut you...but i dont want to be THE other.

the MOT tester´s licence should get withdrawn!!!
Interesting you say his licence should be withdrawn. It was done at a council MOT centre.
People make mistakes, not sure what it being a council testing centre has got to do with it. Anything council related in my experience is sloppy and money wasting.

g3org3y

20,627 posts

191 months

Saturday 18th January 2020
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GinG15 said:
i cant believe someone is asking such a question.

obviously you MUST replace this tyre.....this is dangerous.....guess what happens if your tyre bursts and your are involved in an accident where OTHERS are harmed...i dont care abo9ut you...but i dont want to be THE other.

the MOT tester´s licence should get withdrawn!!!
Says who?

I was under the belief that unless the cords were visible it was considered ok.



Condi

17,195 posts

171 months

Saturday 18th January 2020
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swisstoni said:
p4cks said:
For those saying yes they would 100% replace, can I ask why? And also what first hand experience they have of sidewall nicks in tyres they’ve had on their own cars?
You said you'd leave it so what's your expertise to say that?
Still got air innit, so must be fine.

HustleRussell

24,701 posts

160 months

Saturday 18th January 2020
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If you can’t see the cords, just keep an eye on it for a while to make sure a bulge doesn’t develop. The rubber on that part of the tyre has nothing todo with the tyres structural integrity or air tightness. It’s a moulded on rubber rim flange protector.

Tyre threads always attract alarmist nonsense.

S1KRR

12,548 posts

212 months

Saturday 18th January 2020
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GinG15 said:
i cant believe someone is asking such a question.

obviously you MUST replace this tyre.....this is dangerous.....guess what happens if your tyre bursts and your are involved in an accident where OTHERS are harmed...i dont care abo9ut you...but i dont want to be THE other.

the MOT tester´s licence should get withdrawn!!!
Show me in the manual where it says THIS damage on the sidewall means it's a fail

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/mot-inspection-manual-...

I'll wait! rolleyes

g3org3y said:
Says who?

I was under the belief that unless the cords were visible it was considered ok.
Says someone who doesn't do MOTs for a living! laugh

It's a Pass by the letter of the law.

manual says you can fail if said:
(d) A tyre:

(i) with a cut in excess of the requirements deep enough to reach the ply or cords
It's optional if the tester wants to advise. I probably would biggrin

dreamcracker

3,216 posts

217 months

Saturday 18th January 2020
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HustleRussell said:
If you can’t see the cords, just keep an eye on it for a while to make sure a bulge doesn’t develop. The rubber on that part of the tyre has nothing todo with the tyres structural integrity or air tightness. It’s a moulded on rubber rim flange protector.

Tyre threads always attract alarmist nonsense.
This ......^^^^^^^


It's just the rim protector rubber worn off, as no cords seem to be showing.

It is perfectly ok.

I have similar damage to a front winter tyre on one of my cars and have still been driving it on motorways

Edited by dreamcracker on Saturday 18th January 18:57

sheepman

437 posts

160 months

Saturday 18th January 2020
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wouldn't bother me in the slightest driving on that. I'd check every so often to make sure it doesn't start bulging though.

Osinjak

5,453 posts

121 months

Saturday 18th January 2020
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GinG15 said:
i cant believe someone is asking such a question.

obviously you MUST replace this tyre.....this is dangerous.....guess what happens if your tyre bursts and your are involved in an accident where OTHERS are harmed...i dont care abo9ut you...but i dont want to be THE other.

the MOT tester´s licence should get withdrawn!!!
Hyperbole much? Kittens, children, etc.

Skyedriver

17,856 posts

282 months

Saturday 18th January 2020
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Aiminghigh123 said:


I had uniroyals on the front car which are down to the marks anyway. Car went in for a drop link few days ago then I noticed this tyre on front left. Got loads of tread but chunk out of it.
You say you had Uniroyals on the front, so they put that Continental tyre on from where?

And TBH if you have to ask it needs changing, No compromise with safety.

James_33

546 posts

66 months

Saturday 18th January 2020
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Just replace it.

Voldemort

6,146 posts

278 months

Saturday 18th January 2020
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How much are we talking here? Last I looked a tyre can be had for about the same price as a tank of fuel. I'd change it.

Aiminghigh123

Original Poster:

2,720 posts

69 months

Saturday 18th January 2020
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Skyedriver said:
Aiminghigh123 said:


I had uniroyals on the front car which are down to the marks anyway. Car went in for a drop link few days ago then I noticed this tyre on front left. Got loads of tread but chunk out of it.
You say you had Uniroyals on the front, so they put that Continental tyre on from where?

And TBH if you have to ask it needs changing, No compromise with safety.
Had another Saab on the other ramp next to my car. It’s not even my wheel. Mine was cleaner than this one.

I will run it for a bit. The other one (uniroyal) will need changing soon it’s on 2mm now.

Interesting to see what others would do seems almost a 50/50 split from the answers.

Edited by Aiminghigh123 on Saturday 18th January 22:06

GinG15

501 posts

171 months

Sunday 19th January 2020
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there arent any "laws" or regulations necessary telling an expierienced automotive engineer or technician that THIS tyre is a fail and DANGEROUS!!!

a reputable workshop would have even confiscated your keys unless you would have changed the tyre.

unbeliveable that people are asking such a non-sense here....and even start discussing about such a SAFETY -relevant issue!!

you should be reported to the police driving around with a ticking timbe-bomb!!






Evercross

5,967 posts

64 months

Sunday 19th January 2020
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HustleRussell said:
If you can’t see the cords, just keep an eye on it for a while to make sure a bulge doesn’t develop. The rubber on that part of the tyre has nothing todo with the tyres structural integrity or air tightness. It’s a moulded on rubber rim flange protector.

Tyre threads always attract alarmist nonsense.
+1

Many tyres lack that area of rubber around the entire sidewall from new. Does that make them even more dangerous? Perhaps the manufacturers should be closed down??!

rolleyes

TheInternet

4,717 posts

163 months

Sunday 19th January 2020
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GinG15 said:
you should be reported to the police driving around with a ticking timbe-bomb!!
This SOUNDS like one FOR the Bombe Squad!

Reciprocating mass

6,030 posts

241 months

Sunday 19th January 2020
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GinG15 said:
there arent any "laws" or regulations necessary telling an expierienced automotive engineer or technician that THIS tyre is a fail and DANGEROUS!!!

a reputable workshop would have even confiscated your keys unless you would have changed the tyre.

unbeliveable that people are asking such a non-sense here....and even start discussing about such a SAFETY -relevant issue!!

you should be reported to the police driving around with a ticking timbe-bomb!!
And back in the real world, the legislation says the tyre is perfectly serviceable, don’t ever go looking at commercial vehicle tyres
you might have a skiptoid embolism !

paintman

7,687 posts

190 months

Sunday 19th January 2020
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GinG15 said:
there arent any "laws" or regulations necessary telling an expierienced automotive engineer or technician that THIS tyre is a fail and DANGEROUS!!!

a reputable workshop would have even confiscated your keys unless you would have changed the tyre.

unbeliveable that people are asking such a non-sense here....and even start discussing about such a SAFETY -relevant issue!!

you should be reported to the police driving around with a ticking timbe-bomb!!
"When assessing cuts in a tyre, it is permissible to check whether a cut is deep enough to reach the ply or cord by using a blunt instrument to open the cut taking care not to cause further damage.

The following criteria should be used when assessing a cut in a tyre:

any ply or cord that can be seen without touching the tyre - fail
if by folding back rubber or opening a cut with a blunt instrument, so as not to cause further damage, exposed ply or cord can be seen irrespective of the size of the cut - fail
if a cut which is more than 25mm or 10% of the section width whichever is the greater, is opened with a blunt instrument and cords can be felt but not seen - fail"
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/mot-inspection-manual-...

Them's the rules & the tester has to comply. For all he knows it's a DVSA 'secret shopper' car & not complying will result in 'words of advice' at best.

Would I want to drive around with that tyre? No.