£39k Mercedes-AMG C63 Coupe | Spotted
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cerb4.5lee said:
So reading between the lines with these...once you've got over how nice they sound the actual overall package of them is pretty poor from an owning perspective then.
It seems to be a car that is better to lust after...rather than take the plunge with. A never meet your hero type of car.
That's what I took from the comments too.It seems to be a car that is better to lust after...rather than take the plunge with. A never meet your hero type of car.
I can understand the weight and size making this unsuitable for B roads which is a shame.
I’ve had a 2017 non-S and now a 2019 facelifted S coupe. Excellent cars and haven’t skipped a beat but this is PH so no doubt someone will come along saying they’re s
t and have an iPad stuck to the dash. Oh, and they’re all financed. Hopefully that’s all of them out of the way so we can have a reasoned discussion. 
t and have an iPad stuck to the dash. Oh, and they’re all financed. Hopefully that’s all of them out of the way so we can have a reasoned discussion. playalistic said:
I’ve had a 2017 non-S and now a 2019 facelifted S coupe. Excellent cars and haven’t skipped a beat but this is PH so no doubt someone will come along saying they’re st and have an iPad stuck to the dash. Oh, and they’re all financed. Hopefully that’s all of them out of the way so we can have a reasoned discussion.
I take it you didn't read the other comments before commenting yourself? (although no-one has mentioned the ipad yet)t and have an iPad stuck to the dash. Oh, and they’re all financed. Hopefully that’s all of them out of the way so we can have a reasoned discussion. I have driven 50k in an RS4, then 50k in a W204 C63 and now have a facelift W205 C63s, all estates.
The W205 is a significant improvement on the other 2, it gets 20% better fuel economy, it is quieter, faster and is more comfortable. The tech is slightly overwhelming, but you can avoid fiddling with that......
My main moan is that there is quite a bit of silver plastic inside, especially on the steering wheel and seats which looks a bit shouty. Despite its fame as a monumental power plant, I cannot readily see anyone that would prefer the W204 6.2 to the current twin turbo 4 litre, it is an amazingly refined engine that has blistering amounts of power.
If it is the last of its V8 kind, then it’s one hell of a way to end the party
The W205 is a significant improvement on the other 2, it gets 20% better fuel economy, it is quieter, faster and is more comfortable. The tech is slightly overwhelming, but you can avoid fiddling with that......
My main moan is that there is quite a bit of silver plastic inside, especially on the steering wheel and seats which looks a bit shouty. Despite its fame as a monumental power plant, I cannot readily see anyone that would prefer the W204 6.2 to the current twin turbo 4 litre, it is an amazingly refined engine that has blistering amounts of power.
If it is the last of its V8 kind, then it’s one hell of a way to end the party
Only in PistonHeads can a complaint be made about a twin turbo V8 , give it a few years when this is no longer possible to buy engines like these and see if the opinion is the same .
Is the burmister audio really that bad ? , and here is me looking for a hyacinth red C63 estate with the premium plus pack just to get that system
Is the burmister audio really that bad ? , and here is me looking for a hyacinth red C63 estate with the premium plus pack just to get that system
It's a twin turbo growling v8...whats not to like
I had a S4 Audi as my workhorse before which was fast and practical but didn't excite or look anywhere near as aggressive.
As a daily, workhorse my C63 is just perfect. I personally think the sound system is very good, not really sure what people expect for sound systems, it's a car, not a concert hall....
As for getting bored of the sound of the V8, power delivery...really?? I don't think so for me
Each to their own though...i love it, i'll be keeping for a long time!
I had a S4 Audi as my workhorse before which was fast and practical but didn't excite or look anywhere near as aggressive.
As a daily, workhorse my C63 is just perfect. I personally think the sound system is very good, not really sure what people expect for sound systems, it's a car, not a concert hall....
As for getting bored of the sound of the V8, power delivery...really?? I don't think so for me
Each to their own though...i love it, i'll be keeping for a long time!
I'd opt for the saloon/estate version. The Coupe looks ungainly, especially the profile and from rear, and rear 3/4. They started off keen at the front on the drawing board and by the time they reached the mid section, they lost interest...
I'd still have the Giulia overall though, despite the Merc's V8, because whilst the V8 is a special engine, the crackles and pops are contrived and the overall finesse and fizz of the Giulia is a more attractive proposition for me.
I'd still have the Giulia overall though, despite the Merc's V8, because whilst the V8 is a special engine, the crackles and pops are contrived and the overall finesse and fizz of the Giulia is a more attractive proposition for me.
A good spot and some really thought provoking comments. A totally PH car. I always wanted one, till I drove one, well the saloon which is not as pretty, amazing engine sounds awesome and what power. But because of that it felt a bit angry, and I see them about, often being driven angrily and that’s going to be a bit wearing. My V8 M3 was a bit like that, never really a relaxing drive but always ready to push on. The man in the shop said the E63 was the one to get. More stealth and bit more comfy.
Tin Hat said:
I have driven 50k in an RS4, then 50k in a W204 C63 and now have a facelift W205 C63s, all estates.
The W205 is a significant improvement on the other 2, it gets 20% better fuel economy, it is quieter, faster and is more comfortable. The tech is slightly overwhelming, but you can avoid fiddling with that......
My main moan is that there is quite a bit of silver plastic inside, especially on the steering wheel and seats which looks a bit shouty. Despite its fame as a monumental power plant, I cannot readily see anyone that would prefer the W204 6.2 to the current twin turbo 4 litre, it is an amazingly refined engine that has blistering amounts of power.
If it is the last of its V8 kind, then it’s one hell of a way to end the party
The W205 is a significant improvement on the other 2, it gets 20% better fuel economy, it is quieter, faster and is more comfortable. The tech is slightly overwhelming, but you can avoid fiddling with that......
My main moan is that there is quite a bit of silver plastic inside, especially on the steering wheel and seats which looks a bit shouty. Despite its fame as a monumental power plant, I cannot readily see anyone that would prefer the W204 6.2 to the current twin turbo 4 litre, it is an amazingly refined engine that has blistering amounts of power.
If it is the last of its V8 kind, then it’s one hell of a way to end the party
Sounds rather like me. It is a fantastic car.
But as I said earlier in the thread there are minor things I don't like about the car:
- It does have a feeling of being large and heavy. I don't blast down B roads as I'm wary of the size and weight. I feel more joy from larger A road blasting, with longer sweeping curves rather than tighter narrower ones. The trade-off of a big V8 I suppose, and one I don't mind.
- Having the gearshift on the steering column seems idiotic - something I really don't like
- This means that the lights and the windscreen wiper controls are forced to all be on the other stalk, which overcomplicates it. 2 years into ownership and I'm still indicating right when I want to give the screen a quick wipe
- The tech isn't great. Not overly intuitive and a little unwieldy and slow. The tech from Porsche and BMW is superior.
Otherwise, it's a wonderful GT cruiser, and I have done a few long trips which are easy, refined and comfortable in the C63.
The ride is fine for me. Others have mentioned the stiffness but I find it fine - seems to be set right for the car it is.
The seats are perfect; comfortable and supportive.
I like the interior in the main, it does look and feel like a Mercedes should, well-built and upmarket.
No complaints here either about the Burmester - sounds perfectly good to me.
Enough room in the coupé. It's a little tight for four adults but manageable. With fold-down seats there's plenty of storage, enough to take a nephew to university with the entirety of his belongings for a year.
And the V8? I will never tire of the snarl on start up, the burble on idle, the roar once revved, the instant response and boundless torque of the bi-turbo.
And it seems its the sound which strangers appreciate when seeing the car too. On one occasion I drove up from London to the borders for the Melrose Rugby 7s event last year. On leaving the event there were 2 police motorbike patrolmen directing traffic, alternating traffic from two directions. They stopped me to let the other lane go, and while stopped one of them strolled over to me to have a word. He asked if I could open up the taps and rev the V8. I did so, and he and his partner were grinning and whooping - clearly petrolheads. A pleasure to indulge.
I did complete the AMG day at Brooklands too, so am well aware of the capability of this monstrous car. The Brooklands circuit is tight and narrow, so the C63's nimbleness there belies its size and weight, my previous comments notwithstanding.
As Tin Hat above said, if it's the last V8 bi-turbo of its kind before the hybrid four comes along next year, then a hell of way to end the party.
Edited by Tim bo on Monday 20th January 09:09
The C63 is a simple car to live with best a W204 with the full fat V8 or the newer W205 with the twin turbos. As ever the M4 is better on the edge but how many owners are ever into the 130mph region as they approach a corner and pick one side to other. The AMG is well screwed together, the engine in either model is a peach and you dont buy one of these to worry about fuel costs. It is the dealers that can be somewhat hit and miss plus I am NOT a fan of the interior leather (which isnt real). I drive a wagon and with winter tyres and a LSD is properly rewarding throughout the four seasons in a week we have in the UK. Get it tunes a little and there isnt much to keep up and for more noise send some money on an Akropovic slip on exhaust!!
Coming from an M4 to a C63s W205 first gen I can say the following:
The C63s is much more of an event, the engine is great, handling is good (very easy to powerslide and contorl) higher speed cornering is good but it's a strange feeling with the electric steering.
The M4 for me lacked engine/exhaust note, the C63s is so much better with a lot more grunt although it does lack on it's former 6.2 rival. However with little lag and 500ft lb of torque you can do without.
It is heavier and the M4 cornered better but it disguises it's weight well and still pretty nimble on a B road. I found in my M4 the traction control system in normal was too limiting and in MDM the car would kick out when accelerating round bends which very nearly caught me out. The AMG is a lot more forgiving traction wise.
For looks i'd go M4 every time, the C63 lacks the wide arches the M4 has and looks too similar to an ordinary C Class from the back.
For the PH driver, the C63 is IMO more fun car to drive daily however if comfort with speed is your thing, the M4 would probably be better comfort interior wise, on road and more nibmle on track
The C63s is much more of an event, the engine is great, handling is good (very easy to powerslide and contorl) higher speed cornering is good but it's a strange feeling with the electric steering.
The M4 for me lacked engine/exhaust note, the C63s is so much better with a lot more grunt although it does lack on it's former 6.2 rival. However with little lag and 500ft lb of torque you can do without.
It is heavier and the M4 cornered better but it disguises it's weight well and still pretty nimble on a B road. I found in my M4 the traction control system in normal was too limiting and in MDM the car would kick out when accelerating round bends which very nearly caught me out. The AMG is a lot more forgiving traction wise.
For looks i'd go M4 every time, the C63 lacks the wide arches the M4 has and looks too similar to an ordinary C Class from the back.
For the PH driver, the C63 is IMO more fun car to drive daily however if comfort with speed is your thing, the M4 would probably be better comfort interior wise, on road and more nibmle on track
It’s all subjective - I’m no audiophile, but the Burmeister didn’t sound any different to standard systems in other cars I’ve had or the bog standard system in my wife’s Disco.
On reflection, I think I’d prob have loved the C63 more if I’d had the estate - more of a Q car. The Coupé (and a Designo met white one at that) was perhaps the wrong image for me (a mid 40s bloke), and on occasion I did drive like a prat. But that has nothing to do with the sound system!!
I also thought I’d never tire of the V8 rumble...but after 6 months I did.
Still, good job I’m building a Range Rover Classic with a 4.6 V8.
On reflection, I think I’d prob have loved the C63 more if I’d had the estate - more of a Q car. The Coupé (and a Designo met white one at that) was perhaps the wrong image for me (a mid 40s bloke), and on occasion I did drive like a prat. But that has nothing to do with the sound system!!
I also thought I’d never tire of the V8 rumble...but after 6 months I did.
Still, good job I’m building a Range Rover Classic with a 4.6 V8.
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