Audi TT RS | PH Fleet

[s m]

cerb4.5lee said:

I'd love one of these especially with a manual gearbox. I've lusted after one of these ever since I had a mk2 TTS. That was a DSG but its not that great imo(unpredictable doing small manoeuvres/it didn't suit the laggy turbo 4 cyl engine). So I'd prefer a manual even though I would lose more races at the traffic light grand prix!

They sound great IMHO

I enjoyed reading Hoonmeister’s modding thread

[cerb4.5lee]

s m said:

They sound great IMHO

Agree and the 5 cylinder engine is something special for sure.

[only1ian]

Looking at that stereo and Nav it looks like it shouldn’t be too difficult to fit an aftermarket apple carplay! Did it go my wife’s shed RAV4 for £400 all in with a reverse camera and handsfree calling for £400 fitted!

[Mr Tidy]

To be fair to Ben it's fairly easily done.

I went to look at my Z4M Coupe in rural Leicestershire last month and bought it complete with H & R coil-overs set pretty low, but up there it drove fine. Then a week ago I went over to Sutton to visit family and it grounded on the first speed bump I encountered!

Which isn't great because Sutton is full of them!

Thank goodness it has coil-overs not lower springs - at least I can get them set up somewhat higher.

I just hope they will go high enough.

[Slippydiff]

I think you may have missed the perfect opportunity (and a trick Ben) :

https://mss.company/product-range/

[Hoofy]

It's all fun and laughter until you're low on fuel, pull into a petrol station, try to open the fuel flap and remember you bought a VAG car. #dealingwiththisrightnow #keeppressingtheunlockbuttonandhopingGodexists #lookingstupidinfrontofthecarsinthequeue

(I'm going to dismantle the mechanism and replace the standard cap with a Halfords locking one. At least I know it will work. And not leave the fuel flap unlocked one day.)

[Court_S]

cerb4.5lee said:

Agree and the 5 cylinder engine is something special for sure.

They sound ace. One of my neighbours brothers has one and it it makes a prior racket (in a good way).

A lad in the village has an RS3, he drives like a bit of a chopper but that five pot does sound good when he gives it the beans. I wonder how long Audi will persevere with the five pot for though?

[BenLowden]

Jon_S_Rally said:

Lordy, some of the posts on here.... It's a set of lowering springs for God's sake, it's not like the previous owner was putting sand in the oil filler cap

A friend of mine had one of these, but sadly I never got the chance to go in it before he moved it on. It was a nice car from what I saw of it though. He changed the wheels which made it look a lot more racy and, with a stainless exhaust, it sounded glorious.

The problem with the manual box was that, once he had it mapped, the clutch slipped. I think the clutch in the DSG is a bit tougher. Still a nice car all the same.

I've done a fair bit of reading on mapping with them. From what I've seen, the Revo stage 1 map may not have the highest numbers compared to others but doesn't seem to cause clutch slip and should still deliver 400hp and 400 lb/ft.

The synchros seem to be a weak spot in the manual gearbox but mine has been rebuilt already.

Slippydiff said:

I think you may have missed the perfect opportunity (and a trick Ben) :

https://mss.company/product-range/

They do have great reviews so I was quite tempted, but I'm putting my spare funds into racing this year so I decided to keep the car standard.

[Pegscratch]

You seem to be being extremely kind to the previous owner, although I'd lay blame at 50/50. You bought a ste one that had been ruined, even after noticing it had been ruined, and the previous owner fitted springs that rubbed, did nothing about the rubbing and did nothing about the suspension geometry when fitting new suspension.

Cowboy VAG owners unite. Typical fare for a mildly interesting VAG vehicle that someone's ruined to desperately fit in with a crowd.

[Hoofy]

cerb4.5lee said:

I'd love one of these especially with a manual gearbox. I've lusted after one of these ever since I had a mk2 TTS. That was a DSG but its not that great imo(unpredictable doing small manoeuvres/it didn't suit the laggy turbo 4 cyl engine). So I'd prefer a manual even though I would lose more races at the traffic light grand prix!

I think the DSG box is brilliant, having tried loads of autos. What did it do that you didn't like?

[ogrodz]

BenLowden said:

Jawls said:

With 2012 TT’s with the same infotainment, you could stick one of these dongles in your glovebox and then broadcast music via Bluetooth on your phone.

Thanks for the recommendation on that, much appreciated! Will look into it

culpz said:

What's the gearbox like, Ben? I know the VAG manuals can be a bit numb to use.

It's pretty good actually Sam – it's no Civic Type R but it's enjoyable to use and I'm glad I opted for manual over DSG. There are a couple of kits you can get to sharpen up the shift by replacing the rubber bushes with billet aluminium parts but I don't really feel it needs it for road driving.

Drekly said:

Can you reveal if the springs were a decent make like Eibach or H&R? Sounds odd for it to rub unless they exceeded the typical 30mm drop or the spring rates were wrong (which you'd hope the makes I mention would get right).

Also would love to read a "real world" comparison of this against a similar budget Cayman, if thats something you have planned for the future.

They were H&R springs – seems to be a known issue with them on the TTRS. I had H&R springs on my Megane and they were fantastic on the road and track, so wouldn't have hesitated to fit them myself either if I was looking to improve the handling.

I need to have a chat with Mike Duff about getting together to have a drive of his Cayman S. Would definitely make for an interesting comparison! Although his running costs definitely look to be considerably higher than mine...

Mogul said:

It’s also a Toupé.

Any more puns whilst we're at it?

If I had to choose a Titty Arse, it wouldn't be the Toupé - the cabriolet is a more natural evolution don't you think?

[BenLowden]

Pegscratch said:

You seem to be being extremely kind to the previous owner, although I'd lay blame at 50/50. You bought one that had been ruined, even after noticing it had been ruined, and the previous owner fitted springs that rubbed, did nothing about the rubbing and did nothing about the suspension geometry when fitting new suspension.

I'd hardly call fitting suspension springs ruining a car, it's not like it was slammed and bagged... In fairness it was fitted on reputable springs and the suspension set up was done (albeit poorly) by a reputable garage that I won't name. It hadn't covered many miles since before I bought it and it's now sorted; not the end of the world!

[Pegscratch]

BenLowden said:

I'd hardly call fitting suspension springs ruining a car, it's not like it was slammed and bagged... In fairness it was fitted on reputable springs and the suspension set up was done (albeit poorly) by a reputable garage that I won't name. It hadn't covered many miles since before I bought it and it's now sorted; not the end of the world!

Spending as much as one does on such things, coming across one that was on "reputable" suspension that rubbed under any reasonable amount of cornering would go into the "ruined" bucket. Indeed, it's taken a not insignificant amount of money to resolve, and whilst that may have been reasonable based on what you paid for it - we're not privy to that information, and I don't expect to be - I'm not sure there's sufficient absence of good TT-RS' to warrant overlooking something like that. Just in my eyes - but I'm not the only one that has highlighted I wouldn't be ending my investigation of what had been messed around with the suspension. When purchasing, I'd just be walking.

[J4CKO]

"Ruined", thats a bit dramatic !, buy any used car and it can have all sorts of things that need sorting out, springs need not cost much, put a set of hardly used Mountune ones on my lads car he got off a friend for £80, two hours and they were done.

2 tyres and an alignment, set of springs off eBay, standard ones go for not much money off people lowering theirs.

Secondhand springs, but we will all die...

[cerb4.5lee]

Hoofy said:

cerb4.5lee said:

I'd love one of these especially with a manual gearbox. I've lusted after one of these ever since I had a mk2 TTS. That was a DSG but its not that great imo(unpredictable doing small manoeuvres/it didn't suit the laggy turbo 4 cyl engine). So I'd prefer a manual even though I would lose more races at the traffic light grand prix!

I think the DSG box is brilliant, having tried loads of autos. What did it do that you didn't like?

I think that it didn't suit that engine especially well. The engine was quite old school in that it was quite laggy and you had to wait for the boost to come in, and coupled to the DSG just made it all feel quite slow and clumsy in its response/delivery.

I also didn't like slow speed manoeuvres when you needed to go into reverse and then back into drive...it took an age for the gearbox to respond. I also didn't like how the car rolled back on a hill when you released the brake pedal, a traditional auto will hold the car when you release the brake pedal.

It was quick shifting when it finally got its act together though. The car was brand new and I also had the transmission fluid changed at 40k miles. So I think that it must be the 4 cylinder turbo engine that was one of the main problems.

[Hoofy]

cerb4.5lee said:

Hoofy said:

cerb4.5lee said:

I'd love one of these especially with a manual gearbox. I've lusted after one of these ever since I had a mk2 TTS. That was a DSG but its not that great imo(unpredictable doing small manoeuvres/it didn't suit the laggy turbo 4 cyl engine). So I'd prefer a manual even though I would lose more races at the traffic light grand prix!

I think the DSG box is brilliant, having tried loads of autos. What did it do that you didn't like?

I think that it didn't suit that engine especially well. The engine was quite old school in that it was quite laggy and you had to wait for the boost to come in, and coupled to the DSG just made it all feel quite slow and clumsy in its response/delivery.

I also didn't like slow speed manoeuvres when you needed to go into reverse and then back into drive...it took an age for the gearbox to respond. I also didn't like how the car rolled back on a hill when you released the brake pedal, a traditional auto will hold the car when you release the brake pedal.

It was quick shifting when it finally got its act together though. The car was brand new and I also had the transmission fluid changed at 40k miles. So I think that it must be the 4 cylinder turbo engine that was one of the main problems.

Oh yes, I have experienced all that. I don't mind - I just drop it into "Sport" (mimicking a downshift) and it puts the revs at the right range.

WRT moving around at slow speed, yes, I do have to wait a little longer than my previous japanese autobox but I don't mind.

On hills, I've learnt to ease off the brake pedal so it realises that I want the gear to engage.

I guess for the engine, it's a bit of a balance between moderate performance as fuel economy. Maybe the 3.2 V6 is better for urgency? In any case, when going into a tight corner, I'll pop it into S so it's ready to accelerate.

[Pegscratch]

J4CKO said:

"Ruined", thats a bit dramatic !, buy any used car and it can have all sorts of things that need sorting out, springs need not cost much, put a set of hardly used Mountune ones on my lads car he got off a friend for £80, two hours and they were done.

There are presently well over 100 TT-RS examples for sale in the UK, my point is simply if I got in one and it was scrubbing because of some suspension that was fitted to the car, I'd be going to buy a different one. If someone is willing to put up with it rubbing, what else are they willing to put up with?

It would need to be silly cheap for me to entertain.

[cerb4.5lee]

Hoofy said:

cerb4.5lee said:

Hoofy said:

cerb4.5lee said:

I'd love one of these especially with a manual gearbox. I've lusted after one of these ever since I had a mk2 TTS. That was a DSG but its not that great imo(unpredictable doing small manoeuvres/it didn't suit the laggy turbo 4 cyl engine). So I'd prefer a manual even though I would lose more races at the traffic light grand prix!

I think the DSG box is brilliant, having tried loads of autos. What did it do that you didn't like?

I think that it didn't suit that engine especially well. The engine was quite old school in that it was quite laggy and you had to wait for the boost to come in, and coupled to the DSG just made it all feel quite slow and clumsy in its response/delivery.

I also didn't like slow speed manoeuvres when you needed to go into reverse and then back into drive...it took an age for the gearbox to respond. I also didn't like how the car rolled back on a hill when you released the brake pedal, a traditional auto will hold the car when you release the brake pedal.

It was quick shifting when it finally got its act together though. The car was brand new and I also had the transmission fluid changed at 40k miles. So I think that it must be the 4 cylinder turbo engine that was one of the main problems.

Oh yes, I have experienced all that. I don't mind - I just drop it into "Sport" (mimicking a downshift) and it puts the revs at the right range.

WRT moving around at slow speed, yes, I do have to wait a little longer than my previous japanese autobox but I don't mind.

On hills, I've learnt to ease off the brake pedal so it realises that I want the gear to engage.

I guess for the engine, it's a bit of a balance between moderate performance as fuel economy. Maybe the 3.2 V6 is better for urgency? In any case, when going into a tight corner, I'll pop it into S so it's ready to accelerate.

Yes and I've read before that it does work better in sport. I never really used sport though but I'll know for next time if I get another one cheers. Again thanks for the tip about easing off gently to engage the gear.

I'm with you and I do think that the 3.2 V6 seems a better fit. I do remember having a go in a 3.2 V6 TT years ago and I was really impressed with it back then for sure. It was my first experience of a twin clutch gearbox and I couldn't believe how quick it was off the lights.

[Hoofy]

cerb4.5lee said:

Hoofy said:

cerb4.5lee said:

Hoofy said:

cerb4.5lee said:

I'd love one of these especially with a manual gearbox. I've lusted after one of these ever since I had a mk2 TTS. That was a DSG but its not that great imo(unpredictable doing small manoeuvres/it didn't suit the laggy turbo 4 cyl engine). So I'd prefer a manual even though I would lose more races at the traffic light grand prix!

I think the DSG box is brilliant, having tried loads of autos. What did it do that you didn't like?

I think that it didn't suit that engine especially well. The engine was quite old school in that it was quite laggy and you had to wait for the boost to come in, and coupled to the DSG just made it all feel quite slow and clumsy in its response/delivery.

I also didn't like slow speed manoeuvres when you needed to go into reverse and then back into drive...it took an age for the gearbox to respond. I also didn't like how the car rolled back on a hill when you released the brake pedal, a traditional auto will hold the car when you release the brake pedal.

It was quick shifting when it finally got its act together though. The car was brand new and I also had the transmission fluid changed at 40k miles. So I think that it must be the 4 cylinder turbo engine that was one of the main problems.

Oh yes, I have experienced all that. I don't mind - I just drop it into "Sport" (mimicking a downshift) and it puts the revs at the right range.

WRT moving around at slow speed, yes, I do have to wait a little longer than my previous japanese autobox but I don't mind.

On hills, I've learnt to ease off the brake pedal so it realises that I want the gear to engage.

I guess for the engine, it's a bit of a balance between moderate performance as fuel economy. Maybe the 3.2 V6 is better for urgency? In any case, when going into a tight corner, I'll pop it into S so it's ready to accelerate.

Yes and I've read before that it does work better in sport. I never really used sport though but I'll know for next time if I get another one cheers. Again thanks for the tip about easing off gently to engage the gear.

I'm with you and I do think that the 3.2 V6 seems a better fit. I do remember having a go in a 3.2 V6 TT years ago and I was really impressed with it back then for sure. It was my first experience of a twin clutch gearbox and I couldn't believe how quick it was off the lights.

I had a play this evening with paddle shifting. I went round the roundabout then dropped down a gear after it had already dropped down. It took a moment to drop down to 2nd; perhaps I should have dropped down before entering the roundabout but then I'd possibly have to drop down again or something. Easier to just pop it into S before entering the roundabout and letting it maintain 3k+ rpm.

[Gerradi]

cerb4.5lee said:

Yes and I've read before that it does work better in sport. I never really used sport though but I'll know for next time if I get another one cheers. Again thanks for the tip about easing off gently to engage the gear.

I'm with you and I do think that the 3.2 V6 seems a better fit. I do remember having a go in a 3.2 V6 TT years ago and I was really impressed with it back then for sure. It was my first experience of a twin clutch gearbox and I couldn't believe how quick it was off the lights.

Cerb the Ttrs has a 7 speed dsg & wet clutch & the 2.0 is a 6 speed with dry clutch packs, quite difference plus the 7 speed shifts very quickly imn my own expirience ....