Car was written off category B, but works fine!

Car was written off category B, but works fine!

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Searider

979 posts

256 months

Tuesday 21st January 2020
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Krikkit said:
Crikey that's brilliant.

I'd probably just sell it - stick it on eBay with a full description and see what you get, I'd be surprised if you get <£10k for it if it's running and driving properly.
I imagine it would sell for export to eastern europe very easily.

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 21st January 2020
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Searider said:
I imagine it would sell for export to eastern europe very easily.
He should be getting legal advice on what he can and can't do.

PAUL500

2,635 posts

247 months

Tuesday 21st January 2020
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Cat B is an insurance classification, not a legal one. Being a Cat B only means it cannot be registered in the UK as it stands.

Who is going to prosecute him if he did sell it? no one.

As I said he has always been the legal owner, it is his to do what he wants with it.

alorotom

11,952 posts

188 months

Tuesday 21st January 2020
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Searider said:
I imagine it would sell for export to eastern europe very easily.
Absolutely this. I’d be doing this if it were me.

griffsomething

238 posts

162 months

Tuesday 21st January 2020
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Strip it out, sell the interior bits, stick it on a trailer and you have yourself a nice track day car is surely the correct answer here? smile

Jakg

3,471 posts

169 months

Tuesday 21st January 2020
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Krikkit said:
Crikey that's brilliant.

I'd probably just sell it - stick it on eBay with a full description and see what you get, I'd be surprised if you get <£10k for it if it's running and driving properly.
This is a good idea - even if you can't get it registered in the UK, it could still be registrable in other RHD countries, or even eastern europe - and the value of that would be much more to them than it is to you.

Paddymcc

943 posts

192 months

Tuesday 21st January 2020
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The reason its probably registered as a CAT B is that they usually assume flood cars have all sorts of germs and crap from overflowing sewage systems that has washed into the interior and aircon system.

master cool

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20 posts

177 months

Tuesday 21st January 2020
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Krikkit said:
Crikey that's brilliant.

I'd probably just sell it - stick it on eBay with a full description and see what you get, I'd be surprised if you get <£10k for it if it's running and driving properly.
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It’s such a shame as it’s such a lovely example to! But it was an absolute steal to retain it!

S100HP

12,687 posts

168 months

Tuesday 21st January 2020
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Are you sure it's a B, not a D?

As a side, I thought the classification system had changed to S and N?

Personally I'd be shipping it out to our Eastern friends.

master cool

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20 posts

177 months

Tuesday 21st January 2020
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S100HP said:
Are you sure it's a B, not a D?

As a side, I thought the classification system had changed to S and N?

Personally I'd be shipping it out to our Eastern friends.
Yes definitely a B unfortunately. I was told by insurance it was a B due to water contamination.

I think shipping as is may be the best route to be honest! I’d love to keep it though!

BFleming

3,611 posts

144 months

Tuesday 21st January 2020
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You can read about the Cat B thing here (DVLA's own information): https://www.gov.uk/scrapped-and-written-off-vehicl...
Category B: Cannot be repaired - Body shell has to be crushed, but you can salvage other parts from it

You also have a legal obligation to tell the DVLA your car has been written off - although I think most insurers will inform the DVLA directly: https://www.gov.uk/written-off-vehicle I find it strange that they've sold the car back to you - and I think it's illegal. The car became their property once you accepted the pay-out. They sold it back to you, although you're not a licenced breaker.

Did you retain the log book this whole time, or has that gone to & fro with the car/settlement? I seem to recall that applying for a new logbook - or attemping to tax the car - will not succeed, and the DVLA will start enforcement action against you. The rules were brought in to stop car cloning (people buying cheap write-offs, stealing a similar car & transferring the identity of the crashed car to it).

Krikkit

26,541 posts

182 months

Tuesday 21st January 2020
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master cool said:
Krikkit said:
Crikey that's brilliant.

I'd probably just sell it - stick it on eBay with a full description and see what you get, I'd be surprised if you get <£10k for it if it's running and driving properly.
[url]
|https://thumbsnap.com/hTSbbKpx[/url]

It’s such a shame as it’s such a lovely example to! But it was an absolute steal to retain it!
Yeah that looks fantastic - even the wheels are worth £800! Out of interest what was the water damage?

BFleming

3,611 posts

144 months

Tuesday 21st January 2020
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S100HP said:
Are you sure it's a B, not a D?

As a side, I thought the classification system had changed to S and N?

Personally I'd be shipping it out to our Eastern friends.
N and S replaced D and C (N meaning non-structural damage, S meaning structural damage).
A and B remain as they are (A - it has to be crushed in its entirety, B - remove any parts & then crush the shell).

master cool

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20 posts

177 months

Tuesday 21st January 2020
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BFleming said:
You can read about the Cat B thing here (DVLA's own information): https://www.gov.uk/scrapped-and-written-off-vehicl...
Category B: Cannot be repaired - Body shell has to be crushed, but you can salvage other parts from it

You also have a legal obligation to tell the DVLA your car has been written off - although I think most insurers will inform the DVLA directly: https://www.gov.uk/written-off-vehicle I find it strange that they've sold the car back to you - and I think it's illegal. The car became their property once you accepted the pay-out. They sold it back to you, although you're not a licenced breaker.

Did you retain the log book this whole time, or has that gone to & fro with the car/settlement? I seem to recall that applying for a new logbook - or attemping to tax the car - will not succeed, and the DVLA will start enforcement action against you. The rules were brought in to stop car cloning (people buying cheap write-offs, stealing a similar car & transferring the identity of the crashed car to it).
I think it comes down to me not actually buying the car back from them and possibly retaining it? The v5 remained with me

master cool

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20 posts

177 months

Tuesday 21st January 2020
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Krikkit said:
Yeah that looks fantastic - even the wheels are worth £800! Out of interest what was the water damage?
It sucked up water through the air filter and the car stopped. Small bit of fluid and filter changing, car is running fine

Krikkit

26,541 posts

182 months

Tuesday 21st January 2020
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BFleming said:
S100HP said:
Are you sure it's a B, not a D?

As a side, I thought the classification system had changed to S and N?

Personally I'd be shipping it out to our Eastern friends.
N and S replaced D and C (N meaning non-structural damage, S meaning structural damage).
A and B remain as they are (A - it has to be crushed in its entirety, B - remove any parts & then crush the shell).
None of the categories are actually bound in law though - if your insurers would let you (there's the rub) you could use a Cat. A...

In this case as long as you can insure it a Cat. B shouldn't pose any issues...

master cool

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20 posts

177 months

Tuesday 21st January 2020
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Krikkit said:
BFleming said:
S100HP said:
Are you sure it's a B, not a D?

As a side, I thought the classification system had changed to S and N?

Personally I'd be shipping it out to our Eastern friends.
N and S replaced D and C (N meaning non-structural damage, S meaning structural damage).
A and B remain as they are (A - it has to be crushed in its entirety, B - remove any parts & then crush the shell).
None of the categories are actually bound in law though - if your insurers would let you (there's the rub) you could use a Cat. A...

In this case as long as you can insure it a Cat. B shouldn't pose any issues...
This is something I have read in a few places. I do know Adrian flux will insure CAT B cars.. but they couldn’t quote me on this at the moment.

Jakg

3,471 posts

169 months

Tuesday 21st January 2020
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Krikkit said:
None of the categories are actually bound in law though - if your insurers would let you (there's the rub) you could use a Cat. A...

In this case as long as you can insure it a Cat. B shouldn't pose any issues...
The DVLA won't issue a V5 for a Cat A / Cat B (any more). I'm assuming it's been registered as "scrapped" - how will you get it back on the road? And even if you do, it'll be unsellable (for road use).

rallycross

12,815 posts

238 months

Tuesday 21st January 2020
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If the car gets registered outside the UK it will live on, you could then re-register it back here and it will lose the cat marker.
I have never done this but it used to happen a lot, the value of the car is for someone to do this with it.


Krikkit

26,541 posts

182 months

Tuesday 21st January 2020
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Jakg said:
Krikkit said:
None of the categories are actually bound in law though - if your insurers would let you (there's the rub) you could use a Cat. A...

In this case as long as you can insure it a Cat. B shouldn't pose any issues...
The DVLA won't issue a V5 for a Cat A / Cat B (any more). I'm assuming it's been registered as "scrapped" - how will you get it back on the road? And even if you do, it'll be unsellable (for road use).
Ah yes, sorry, I see it changed in 2015/16 ish.