RE: Twice-the-price Ford GT | Spotted

[SidewaysSi]

Looking at the rest of their stock, doesn't it all seem very overpriced?

Only the unwise would buy it would seem..

[Bigwod]

I’ve been accepted to buy a GT 2020 racing series spec, filled the application forms in for a bit of a laugh really, made no video like I should of and got told last year Congratulations on being accepted, thought it was a scam mail until I got in contact with Andy Barratt chairmen of ford and who is in charge of list and confirmed it was true.
Had a phone call from concierge last November team who told me production is way behind schedule and to wait for next contact
Anyway I don’t have that kind of money to buy the car and never will do, however I can bring someone in to go through the concierge process as long as it’s bought in my name and kept for 2 years.
I’m sure if I lived in London not Shropshire I would know footballers and city men wanting to come in with me. I ideally would want someone to put the money up and then after 2 years they can have the car and give me 20% of the profit value.
I do know a lot of famous people have been turned down for the car totally bemused how I got on, got some fords in my collection but still.

[Dr Interceptor]

It's not even blue ......

[cerb4.5lee]

100 said:

Crap spec

A mega boring colour too. Why blend in with all the other boring coloured cars on the road? I'd want this in a head turning colour for sure.

I do love the shape/road presence of these and I wish that I could afford one!

[JBUK]

This dealer would appear to put stratospheric pricing on some cars so they appear in headline searches (great success here then) when it might be more of their personal collection.

If a buyer (or should that be victim) wanders in without doing any research and makes an offer at asking it'll be a massive enough profit to get sold. The ex John Cena GT in blue was bid $1m at the Mecum auction, so around £760k in real money. For this one, in this colour that might even be optimistic

The £500k Dino in the stock is a pipe dream as well!

[spreadsheet monkey]

amstrange1 said:

PH article said:

evidenced by the place that builds each car, Multimac.

Multimatic.

Multimac make child booster seats!

[Dr Nookie]

Cookeh said:

What, you mean aside from every car that has a rear window?

Ha - I meant through the bodywork...

[andrew-qdrwz]

Two GT's defo sold last week at Barratt Jackson Auctions..One made $1.3M & another in a horrible green colour made $1.15m.
So the price is not unrealistic imo.

[m77rshy]

I know its easy to say in the position of dreaming to own a car like this, but surely if you owned something as amazing to drive as a Ford GT you'd want to drive the tyres off it?! I wholly respect the very small few that don't care about appreciation and put thousands of miles on exotics, someone who owns a car for 2 years to only put delivery miles on it is not a car guy.

[Sandpit Steve]

m77rshy said:

I know its easy to say in the position of dreaming to own a car like this, but surely if you owned something as amazing to drive as a Ford GT you'd want to drive the tyres off it?! I wholly respect the very small few that don't care about appreciation and put thousands of miles on exotics, someone who owns a car for 2 years to only put delivery miles on it is not a car guy.

This followed Ford going out of their way to avoid selling cars to speculators, choosing through a process those who might actually use the cars as they should be. Yet many owners have barely driven them, and are up for sale at the first opportunity.

It’s difficult when the rewards are so high though, I had one friend who bought a GT3 with the intention of spanking it at as many track days as possible - but a week after he took delivery he was getting offers of £70-£80k over list so he sold it. Yeah, I’d have taken the money too, especially given that he’s borrowed most of the money to buy the car in the first place.

[saxy]

gigglebug said:

saxy said:

As a driving experience it’s no better than say a 675lt.

Have you managed to compare them on both road and track?

1. V8 vs V6.
2. Comfort.
3. luxury.

[gigglebug]

saxy said:

gigglebug said:

saxy said:

As a driving experience it’s no better than say a 675lt.

Have you managed to compare them on both road and track?

1. V8 vs V6.
2. Comfort.
3. luxury.

So is that a yes or a no then? It sounded like you had first hand experience of how they both handle and the sensations that they provide whilst driving them in the manner to which it is intended, which for me would be a far better indicator of which provided the better driving experience than by judging what was always marketed as a racecar homologation special on it's ability to provide comfort and luxury, which was never part of it's usp??

[anonymous-user]

Lot of money for a tuned focus

[Jon_S_Rally]

CzechItOut said:

I don't get it.

It looks like a Ferrari kit car, has roughly the same power/weight as a Lamborghini Huracan or a Ferrari F8 Tributo, but the list price is 50% more and the price of this one is in fantasy land.

Unless you are a die hard Ford fanboy, what's the attraction?

Because it's a limited-run, homologation special, built alongside the car that won Le Mans and continued the legacy of one of the most famous names in endurance racing history?

saxy said:

1. V8 vs V6.
2. Comfort.
3. luxury.

Why do people get so hung-up on the engine? I think the fact it has a V6 actually makes it more interesting, as it was part of the packaging to make the aero work. The design, with the buttresses and tunnels along the cars flanks make it pretty special in my view.

If you want luxury, buy something else. This is a homologation special, so it's not really aimed at that market.

[BangernomicsAndy]

Recently serviced after 600 miles, an oil change then for the stamp in the book. Use it.

[saxy]

gigglebug said:

So is that a yes or a no then? It sounded like you had first hand experience of how they both handle and the sensations that they provide whilst driving them in the manner to which it is intended, which for me would be a far better indicator of which provided the better driving experience than by judging what was always marketed as a racecar homologation special on it's ability to provide comfort and luxury, which was never part of it's usp??

So you're saying you had first hand experience with both then?
I've had first hand experience in the McLaren, but not the Ford GT. It's not a legal car in my country. Nonetheless, I don't need to get into a Ford GT to see with my eyes what the interior is of quality of a luxurious place, or is it a kit car interior. My ears can hear the difference between a high revving flat plane V8 vs a drone V6. Sheer performance numbers don't lie either. I don't want to drive a bone shattering suspension of a car.

Justifying a million buck racecar because of "homologation" is stupid. Yes the Ford GT won its class by basically sandbagging for 2 races in a row. But hey, every 911, Ferrari are true homologations of Le Mans winners too. Even the Corvette is, and I would argue the Corvette has been much more successful in racing titles. But, good for Ford though to sell a $500,000 car and sell out. If only they can get their company finance and line up sorted similarly.

[gigglebug]

saxy said:

gigglebug said:

saxy said:

gigglebug said:

saxy said:

As a driving experience it’s no better than say a 675lt.

Have you managed to compare them on both road and track?

1. V8 vs V6.
2. Comfort.
3. luxury.

So is that a yes or a no then? It sounded like you had first hand experience of how they both handle and the sensations that they provide whilst driving them in the manner to which it is intended, which for me would be a far better indicator of which provided the better driving experience than by judging what was always marketed as a racecar homologation special on it's ability to provide comfort and luxury, which was never part of it's usp??

So you're saying you had first hand experience with both then?

So it is definitely a no then, thank you for clearing that up at least.

What difference would it make if I either have or haven’t had experience of them both? I am not the one that is making assertions based on what turns out to be no personal experience of comparing the two cars, and no experience of one at all. You are. If you make a statement on a forum it is up to you to back it up with something a little more substantial than pure conjecture, that is how debating works.

saxy said:

I've had first hand experience in the McLaren, but not the Ford GT. It's not a legal car in my country. Nonetheless, I don't need to get into a Ford GT to see with my eyes what the interior is of quality of a luxurious place, or is it a kit car interior.

If you could explain to me when the quality of an interior suddenly became the determining factor to distinguish between the levels of driving experience offered by cars, especially super/hyper cars, I would greatly appreciate it. Presumably you wouldn’t rate the driving experience of an F40 because it doesn’t have a luxurious interior? Or how about an Ariel Atom?? Presumably as modern Bentley’s have what are commonly regarded as the best interiors you would equate them to providing the best driving experience of all?

saxy said:

My ears can hear the difference between a high revving flat plane V8 vs a drone V6.

The character (noise) of an engine, in my experience, can greatly contribute to the overall experience on offer but it will never singularly define a drivers car (if it does then it would only suggest that there isn’t much good about the rest of the package from a driving perspective). I also find it slightly ironic that you are using the sound of a McLaren, which are widely questioned for the lack of character (noise) they produce, as a beating stick for another car. Neither are likely to win any awards in that respect are they even if an individual may prefer one over the other.

saxy said:

Sheer performance numbers don't lie either. I don't want to drive a bone shattering suspension of a car.

Ah, so you are numbers guy then? That explains it. You think that sheer performance stats equate to driving experience? The quickest comparative 0-60 must be the best driving experience? The quickest comparative lap around any given track must be the best driving experience? I really am beginning to suspect that you might not actually know what constitutes a good/bad driving experience at all to be honest, you still haven’t made any reference to driving dynamics (understeer/oversteer/adjustability/braking etc) and sensations (steering feel/nvh/weight transfer etc) other than to state that you don’t want to drive a bone shattering suspension of a car and you prefer one noise over the other.

saxy said:

Justifying a million buck racecar because of "homologation" is stupid. Yes the Ford GT won its class by basically sandbagging for 2 races in a row. But hey, every 911, Ferrari are true homologations of Le Mans winners too. Even the Corvette is, and I would argue the Corvette has been much more successful in racing titles. But, good for Ford though to sell a $500,000 car and sell out. If only they can get their company finance and line up sorted similarly.

I haven’t tried to justify the price due to homologation, that has only been cited as an explanation as to why the car is as it is from a technical point of view and why judging it on it’s luxuriousness is, in your own words, stupid. The market defines the price and unfortunately for your argument the justification has already been made because as pointed out by a previous poster there have already been examples sold for approximately that amount to those who have the means to do so. You thinking that this stupid is neither here nor there in big wide world.