RE: Suzuki forced to cut UK Jimny allocation

RE: Suzuki forced to cut UK Jimny allocation

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ChocolateFrog

25,446 posts

174 months

Sunday 26th January 2020
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Residuals should be rock solid for the foreseeable future then.

Electro1980

8,303 posts

140 months

Sunday 26th January 2020
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DonkeyApple said:
Oppo said:
scottygib553 said:
Damn those EU meddlers for preventing me from buying a car I was unlikely to buy in the first place.
I've never needed or wanted a Jimny, but somehow I feel incredibly angry about this..it is 2020 these days.

If this happened 20 years ago, I wouldnt be angry. Funny world.
Yup. It’s pretty poor that companies display such incompetence. It is just a very basic expectation that a modern company ensures that their new product is appropriate for the market they plan to sell it to.

Of course, it’s more likely that a company like Suzuki knew all along that they would only be able to sell a few in Europe before the impending cut off and there are commercial benefits to selling a handful before that date.

Either way it’s still an annoying example of modern corporates taking the piss out of their current and potential customers and it’s pretty boring these days given how rife it is.
There is no problem with it being sold in most of Europe. It is just the UK, and a car released mid 2018 will already have been well in to design when we voted to leave the EU less than 2 years before. This is no one but the UK government and UK leave voters fault.

Blib

44,173 posts

198 months

Sunday 26th January 2020
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Commas too.

warch

2,941 posts

155 months

Sunday 26th January 2020
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I'm surprised at all the anger on here about this. I'd have thought that the Jimny would be about the last car the average PHer would fancy driving, let alone want to own, what with being slow and having poor driving characteristics.

Chris944_S2

1,919 posts

224 months

Sunday 26th January 2020
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warch said:
I'm surprised at all the anger on here about this. I'd have thought that the Jimny would be about the last car the average PHer would fancy driving, let alone want to own, what with being slow and having poor driving characteristics.
The jimny is loved because it is not pretentious.
It’s a basic and very capable off roader, the exact opposite of a Chelsea tractor. They also got the design right, unlike the previous models.
PHers appreciate it for its honesty even though most wont buy it as it’s not what they want.
You see the same with the love for a fiat panda or dacias, they’re not performance cars but they do just what they are designed for without showing off.

Olas

911 posts

58 months

Sunday 26th January 2020
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ChocolateFrog said:
Luckily in this country we don't vote for socialist uptopia's.

People can buy what they want and drive it how they want. Ferrari F50's weren't made for offroading either but that doesn't stop TaxTheRich.
Political ideology is not a factor here, simply a desire to see things in their place.
For the same reason that fish live in water and birds fly through the air, certain types of vehicle are optimised for use in certain contexts.

There are better off roaders AND better on roaders than a Jimny which raises the question of why they exist in the first place.

‘The best or nothing’ is preferable to ‘a compromise that isn’t especially good at anything’

Bagzie88

177 posts

67 months

Sunday 26th January 2020
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Olas said:
The less Jimnys the better.

If you want to go off-road you want a defender. If you want to drive on tarmac you DONT need a 4x4
You buy a defender from a company that outside of niche brands has quite possibly the worst reliability record in motoring history?

skyrover

12,674 posts

205 months

Sunday 26th January 2020
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High CO2 from a tiny 1.5 litre petrol

Give me a break.

Hopefully we can consign this nonsense to the EU legacy dustbin.

Edited by skyrover on Sunday 26th January 11:47

df76

3,637 posts

279 months

Sunday 26th January 2020
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skyrover said:
High Co2 from a tiny 1.5 litre petrol

Give me a break.

Hopefully we can consign this nonsense to the EU legacy dustbin.
You’re going to be very disappointed.

Olas

911 posts

58 months

Sunday 26th January 2020
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Bagzie88 said:
You buy a defender from a company that outside of niche brands has quite possibly the worst reliability record in motoring history?
Every farmer and every squaddie in the county knows his way round a defender.
Is that the of a jimny?

anonymous-user

55 months

Sunday 26th January 2020
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The Jimny is too small and underpowered to do anything useful with! An embarrassment of a 4x4

skyrover

12,674 posts

205 months

Sunday 26th January 2020
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anonymous said:
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I said hopefully.

Perhaps not the current government, but we shall see going forward.

Sway

26,290 posts

195 months

Sunday 26th January 2020
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warch said:
I'll say it again, who's going to buy one for commercial use? The market for a teeny tiny truck with a small engine unsuited to towing isn't going to be that big.

Incidentally who cares what colour it comes in?
I know two people that will. Our window cleaner will after seeing our neighbours. Other half's best friend will, having had the previous versions for her work at a wildlife rescue.

Perfect for both of them.

Sway

26,290 posts

195 months

Sunday 26th January 2020
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anonymous said:
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Comparable cost, reliability and complexity between those two engines?

Nope.

I'd love to see the Evoque be anywhere near as tolerant of abuse as the little petrol.

Should have kept my Samurai.


anonymous-user

55 months

Sunday 26th January 2020
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Jimnys - why did they even build them?

anonymous-user

55 months

Sunday 26th January 2020
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Last time I looked we were a free market economy - Keynsian principles apply to the Jimny - demand exceeds supply, hence the price goes up. Isn't that the principle that inflates the price of every single "classic" car?
So whatever your opinion of the humble Jimny is, doesn't matter - collectively, enough people do want one enough to force the price up, Simples.

Bagzie88

177 posts

67 months

Sunday 26th January 2020
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Olas said:
Every farmer and every squaddie in the county knows his way round a defender.
Is that the of a jimny?
And yet they discontinued the only honest vehicle they had and replaced it with a turd on wheels.

Farmers now are not buying either of these two cars they are buying a Toyota pickup.

sisu

2,584 posts

174 months

Sunday 26th January 2020
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MadDog1962 said:
There's a huge waiting list for the current Jimny in Australia (18 months in Queensland!), where it is highly regarded.

Suzuki could just allocate cars that were previously destined for UK to other RHD markets.
No you have to keep to the script. Britain is the center of this and the only market that matters for stzuki.
The only solution is to wrap our Nissan GTRs with pictures of Greta bro

Bagzie88

177 posts

67 months

Sunday 26th January 2020
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As for the Evoque 2.0D argument , Diesels have always put out far less Co2 than petrol engines it's part of the reason why years ago everyone was told to go buy a diesal.

The 2.0D in the Evoque is almost as slow to 60 as the Jimny aswell so not exactly a great example is it.

The Jimny has terrible Co2 figures because it has the aerodynamic qualities of a brick and because it's only got a 5 speed box in it , The reality is though no one is going to buy it for motorway runs and they'll be lucky to do 8000 miles a year in them.


skyrover

12,674 posts

205 months

Sunday 26th January 2020
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I would not call 154 g/km terrible by any stretch of the imagination. The 4.7 V8 in my jeep puts out around 400g/km, which is a bit poorer.

But that's if you subscribe to the argument that CO2 is a pollutant, which is debatable.

Personally I am much more concerned about pollution from diesel's than petrols.