RE: Suzuki forced to cut UK Jimny allocation

[jamoor]

timmymagic73 said:

jamoor said:

Looking at the prices of these cars on autotrader, isn't there a market for parallel imports from Japan?

Isn't it also the case that Suzuki are struggling to fulfil the orders for Japan too? So no surplus to be exported privately anyway.

Damn you Suzuki and other assorted bureaucracy - I desperately wanted a new Jimny in jungle green, especially at the original proposed on the road price. Oh, no green in the UK. And ridiculously over-inflated ex-demo/used example prices at the moment.

I'm out until this whole debacle settles down. Which is a shame.

Also if anyone is taking notes, an electric Jimny with approx 100 miles range would suit me perfectly....

Oh thats a shame.

I've no idea how suzuki have managed it by looking at previous horrors like the original swift, but they have managed to pull off a pretty funky range of cars with character, and cheap.

No idea if it was accident or on purpose though.

[sjg]

jamoor said:

Looking at the prices of these cars on autotrader, isn't there a market for parallel imports from Japan?

A virtually new "Jimny Sierra" (ie. wider arches and 1.5 litre engine like we get, rather than the kei-car version) seem to get about 2.5m at the auctions in Japan - about £17.5k at today's exchange rate. Pay to get it deregistered and export paperwork, shipped here, pay 10% import duty, 20% VAT, mph conversion, IVA test and you're getting towards £25k on the road.

If you want one, get an order in here.

[otolith]

Blib said:

Gecko1978 said:

makes me wonder if a turbo 900cc engine is an option. An electric motor and batteries might not be possible given its size.

That's what I have in my Panda Cross. It does everything I require from it.

Gratuitous photo......

Yet still emits 114g/km of CO2 - when they need to get their average down to sub-95. In fact, Fiat/Chrysler, because they don't sell so many massive lumbering SUVs, is only allowed 92g/km.

[scottygib553]

Damn those EU meddlers for preventing me from buying a car I was unlikely to buy in the first place.

[PSB1]

anonymous said:

[redacted]

+1. We voted for this, inadvertently. There are advantages and disadvantages of Brexit, so we'll just have to suck this one up. Just one example of an unintended consequence.

[Motormatt]

otolith said:

Blib said:

Gecko1978 said:

makes me wonder if a turbo 900cc engine is an option. An electric motor and batteries might not be possible given its size.

That's what I have in my Panda Cross. It does everything I require from it.

Gratuitous photo......

Yet still emits 114g/km of CO2 - when they need to get their average down to sub-95. In fact, Fiat/Chrysler, because they don't sell so many massive lumbering SUVs, is only allowed 92g/km.

Its absolutely outrageous that companies who have made the effort over the last few years to get their fleet average down like Fiat/Chrysler are given tougher targets than those that have just ignored the issue and enjoyed the profits to be made churning out ever bigger SUVs

I think the weight allowance in the equation ends in 2021, thats when these regs will really start to bite.

[SlimJim16v]

Pat H said:

SlimJim16v said:

I didn't think they were permanent 4wd? Freewheel hubs would also disconnect the front driveline.

They aren't permanent 4WD.

Freewheeling hubs are a blast from the past. Remember them on my Airportable Landie!

So the bit about "But with the drag of a mechanical four-wheel drive system" is crap then. So another poorly written, inaccurate post. Should we believe any of it?

[oilit]

the good news for existing owners and the lucky future few is that residuals will most likely be very good !

LOL Who knows - you may even see one sold by Tom Hartley ffs

[flatso]

ash73 said:

2xChevrons said:

Maybe because population growth is already slowing down massively? Growth rate peaked in the 1970s, is currently at the same level as it was in the 1930s and is expected to reach the pre-industrial long-term norm by 2050, with global population growth coming to a stop by 2100.

Suggesting the growth rate will end is just an extrapolation of the current trend.

The global population is still forecast to double this century, and it's already about x10 what it should be imo.

Interesting that folk are willing to accept these forecasts, while rejecting far more advanced climate change models...

There is absolutely no reason, to give the so called experts any benefit of the doubt at all. These are the same fools that were preaching to us about global cooling, ozone holes, acid rain, global warming and now climate change. They are watermelons, green on the outside, red on the inside.
Search for “Severn Suzuki” speech in Rio in 92, and have good listen to what this is all about.
Populations worldwide are sinking, and yes that is a problem.

[tim0409]

ash73 said:

They don't even offer decent colours here, no dark green... just white, silver and black. Why would anyone buy a 4x4 in white?

Needs a decent engine and 6 speed box too.

The UK gets white, silver, black, ivory, blue and yellow.

I agree about the 6 speed box though, ours gets pretty loud above 65mph on the motorway.

[warch]

SlimJim16v said:

Pat H said:

SlimJim16v said:

I didn't think they were permanent 4wd? Freewheel hubs would also disconnect the front driveline.

They aren't permanent 4WD.

Freewheeling hubs are a blast from the past. Remember them on my Airportable Landie!

So the bit about "But with the drag of a mechanical four-wheel drive system" is crap then. So another poorly written, inaccurate post. Should we believe any of it?

Suzuki Jimnys are 2wd with selectable 4wd, like Series II/III Land Rovers. I don't think they come with free wheeling hubs, as these are offered as an aftermarket option, so yes there will be a level of drag on the front wheels caused by turning the differential and propshaft.

[Notanotherturbo]

lee_erm said:

Because we will still be aligned almost completely with EU rules

That's not what Sajid Javed said this week - complete opposite in fact - which will basically mean no free trade deal at the end of the year.

[SlimJim16v]

warch said:

Suzuki Jimnys are 2wd with selectable 4wd, like Series II/III Land Rovers. I don't think they come with free wheeling hubs, as these are offered as an aftermarket option, so yes there will be a level of drag on the front wheels caused by turning the differential and propshaft.

Didn't the Jimny have air operated disconnect for the front wheels/diff? So something similar would be used on this.

[warch]

SlimJim16v said:

warch said:

Suzuki Jimnys are 2wd with selectable 4wd, like Series II/III Land Rovers. I don't think they come with free wheeling hubs, as these are offered as an aftermarket option, so yes there will be a level of drag on the front wheels caused by turning the differential and propshaft.

Didn't the Jimny have air operated disconnect for the front wheels/diff? So something similar would be used on this.

They do! I hadn't noticed that. They are apparently prone to failure though, hence the market for old fashioned manual locking hubs. So yes no drag from the transmission then.

My old Land Rover has automatic freewheeling hubs, which don't require you to get in and out to engage them.

[legless]

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[Kev_Mk3]

Not just the Jimny - Also Suzuki swift sport impacted

[Pica-Pica]

Notanotherturbo said:

lee_erm said:

Because we will still be aligned almost completely with EU rules

That's not what Sajid Javed said this week - complete opposite in fact - which will basically mean no free trade deal at the end of the year.

But yesterday he has said differently to what he said earlier this week - “we will not be a rule-taker, but we will not always diverge from EU rules’ (Times - Friday 24th Jan).

[CedricN]

The new rules that come into force will change the game alot, the fines/tax or whatever you wan to call them are absolutely massive. It will affect both what car costs and the cars available.

[DonkeyApple]

Pica-Pica said:

Notanotherturbo said:

lee_erm said:

Because we will still be aligned almost completely with EU rules

That's not what Sajid Javed said this week - complete opposite in fact - which will basically mean no free trade deal at the end of the year.

But yesterday he has said differently to what he said earlier this week - “we will not be a rule-taker, but we will not always diverge from EU rules’ (Times - Friday 24th Jan).

Pretty much everything was always going to remained aligned. The only two significant changes are that we will source more immigrants from outside of the EU and we won’t be taking part in shaping any of the EU policy that we will subsequently align to.

Everyone knew this when they voted so it’s not really an issue as both sides have got what they wanted.

Firms like Suzuki need to align themselves quickly to the new British mantra which is ‘adapt or die’ or alternatively, sell everything off to the Chinese.

[MaxSo]

lee_erm said:

Notanotherturbo said:

Am I missing something? We won't be in the EU in 2021 so do they need to meet that emissions target to sell here?

Because we will still be aligned almost completely with EU rules

but I thought we got Brexit done?