RE: £50k Ferrari F430 | Spotted
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Esceptico said:
I’ve driven a few 430s but only Scuderias so don’t know what the standard model is like. The Scuderia was brilliant. I almost bought this one but decided on a 355 instead (which I had lusted after when they first came out). Much as I loved the 355 I do sometimes wonder whether I made the right choice.
Was this an Australian car ?Esceptico said:
I’ve driven a few 430s but only Scuderias so don’t know what the standard model is like. The Scuderia was brilliant. I almost bought this one but decided on a 355 instead (which I had lusted after when they first came out). Much as I loved the 355 I do sometimes wonder whether I made the right choice.
I have a 355. The only car I'd change it for is a 430 Scud, but I do like manual gearboxes.Jex said:
Esceptico said:
I’ve driven a few 430s but only Scuderias so don’t know what the standard model is like. The Scuderia was brilliant. I almost bought this one but decided on a 355 instead (which I had lusted after when they first came out). Much as I loved the 355 I do sometimes wonder whether I made the right choice.
I have a 355. The only car I'd change it for is a 430 Scud, but I do like manual gearboxes.https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-culture/classic-c...
Esceptico said:
I’ve driven a few 430s but only Scuderias so don’t know what the standard model is like. The Scuderia was brilliant. I almost bought this one but decided on a 355 instead (which I had lusted after when they first came out). Much as I loved the 355 I do sometimes wonder whether I made the right choice.
fair play for having a 355 over a scud, that's pretty nuts imo!Sandpit Steve said:
Jex said:
Esceptico said:
I’ve driven a few 430s but only Scuderias so don’t know what the standard model is like. The Scuderia was brilliant. I almost bought this one but decided on a 355 instead (which I had lusted after when they first came out). Much as I loved the 355 I do sometimes wonder whether I made the right choice.
I have a 355. The only car I'd change it for is a 430 Scud, but I do like manual gearboxes.https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-culture/classic-c...
Porsche Analogue said:
marked as sold. good buy for someone I think
There is a black ex-Dubai car on ebay for a few grand more with 50k (alleged) miles on it for anyone that was still tempted. To be fair, some reference to its service history in Dubai but any GCC car I would be very sceptical of.mundo-kombi.com said:
I thought nowadays LHD cars fetch more. The RHD cars in the UK are cheaper than their LHD counterparts on the continent, in nearly all cases, no?
Funny old thing the values of LHD -v- RHD as GDP has nosedived. Back in the day when a LHD supercar would be 75% of the price, which, to be fair, this one probably is. As you say, nowadays I notice v little price difference, or the LHD being more due to the cost to Europeans being so much less. At the lower end of the scale, I would say LHD in the UK are quite a bit more expensive. I am after an older RR Sport in LHD and for mid to late 2000 vintage I would say the LHD examples in the UK are near on twice the price of the RHD counterparts.
Shnozz said:
Porsche Analogue said:
marked as sold. good buy for someone I think
There is a black ex-Dubai car on ebay for a few grand more with 50k (alleged) miles on it for anyone that was still tempted. To be fair, some reference to its service history in Dubai but any GCC car I would be very sceptical of.soad said:
Shnozz said:
Porsche Analogue said:
marked as sold. good buy for someone I think
There is a black ex-Dubai car on ebay for a few grand more with 50k (alleged) miles on it for anyone that was still tempted. To be fair, some reference to its service history in Dubai but any GCC car I would be very sceptical of.https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ferrari-F430-4-3-F1-200...
At least its been through Nick Cartwright since landing in the UK so if you gave them a call you might be able to get the opinion of someone in the UK.
helix402 said:
It looks quite rough. Kerbed wheels and ditchfinders.
Safe to say Schumacher's Fiorano lap time probably wasn't set with a set of Kinforests' finest on the front wheels, but who knows, perhaps the previous owner found it improved the handling!I would be very suspicious of any used high performance car shod with bargain basement tyres, let alone a Ferrari. Says a lot about how the bits you cant see have been cared for.
Julian Thompson said:
Ok so.
The actuated manual that Ferrari used is literally the same gearbox as the manual.
They remove the plate that translates the shift cable movement from the manual gear lever and replace it with an actuator.
Clutch, same deal.
You’ve then got a TCU and some sensors that work a strategy to determine baulked shifts, interpret clutch wear settings and all kinds of other “work arounds.” It works, of course. Weight wise it’s not so good, because you’ve got a lot of “stuff” dangling around on brackets that support it and because you’ve got the compromises made when it was made to be a manual in the first place. With a modern dual clutch box the clutches and internal mechanisms are designed from the ground up to work in a “one box” setup.
Hope that helps.
Are the parts available to convert them to proper manual?The actuated manual that Ferrari used is literally the same gearbox as the manual.
They remove the plate that translates the shift cable movement from the manual gear lever and replace it with an actuator.
Clutch, same deal.
You’ve then got a TCU and some sensors that work a strategy to determine baulked shifts, interpret clutch wear settings and all kinds of other “work arounds.” It works, of course. Weight wise it’s not so good, because you’ve got a lot of “stuff” dangling around on brackets that support it and because you’ve got the compromises made when it was made to be a manual in the first place. With a modern dual clutch box the clutches and internal mechanisms are designed from the ground up to work in a “one box” setup.
Hope that helps.
AndyC_123 said:
I looked at one that had come from Dubai fairly recently.
It had 6 years of missing service history and a recent £20k service bill when it came to the UK
Doesn’t surprise me in the slightest. What does surprise me is why anyone would bother importing a ‘cheap’ GCC car to then have a comprehensive service in the uk. Unless that was the first Uk owner getting their bIt had 6 years of missing service history and a recent £20k service bill when it came to the UK
ks kicked in. As a cheap Bradford hire car bodged to keep mobile, perhaps it makes sense, otherwise I’d be very cautious importing any Middle Eastern car.
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