RE: Honda e | Driven

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Butter Face

30,398 posts

161 months

Monday 27th January 2020
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Krikkit said:
DonkeyApple said:
Krikkit said:
I think these look bloody brilliant - can't understand the hatred for it. It's an interesting, distinctive piece of exterior styling that screams Honda japanese-ness. The interior is a clever, modern design, and it absolutely nails the brief of a small, city-EV that could be a 2nd or 3rd household car (surely a PH staple?)
Surely the Ford Fiesta is the city car that absolutely nails the brief as at dirt cheap, completely unrestricted in usage and totally fire and forget as a third car. Which arguably goes towards explaining why it’s the biggest selling car in the UK.
A Fiesta specced up to a similar spec to this, with an automatic gearbox, is knocking on for £23k. And that isn't even an EV (with all the benefits of driving one in an urban environment).

That, and the infotainment and electrical wizardry is all a generation behind the Honda.
And the fiesta residual value will be nowhere near as good as the Honda too.

waynecyclist

8,921 posts

115 months

Monday 27th January 2020
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Charging point is interesting thats for sure.

Dash is horrid

mikey P 500

1,240 posts

188 months

Monday 27th January 2020
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Are they all going to be white (quite like the panda looks). Think the retro styling is great. Personally wouldn't buy one but, but they make a nicer sight on the roads than most other EVs that either look really ugly or mimic a normal car too closely. As widely said cheap saving the planet in cities is walking, cycling or public transport. This is for people too rich for this and priced accordingly, I am sure they don't plan to build too many as battery tech keeps getting better, these will be obsolete within about 5 to 8 years anyway.

Morganboy

17 posts

53 months

Monday 27th January 2020
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Perfectly acceptable battery range for those of us lucky enough to live in Guernsey!

A1VDY

3,575 posts

128 months

Monday 27th January 2020
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Yeah, save the planet with Ev cars... only slight downside is increased emissions from power stations & more nuclear waste to be buried for the next 10k years..

DoctorX

7,317 posts

168 months

Monday 27th January 2020
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Butter Face said:
Looks great, but the Renault ZOE is a better buy for less money.
O/T and I must admit I haven’t ‘heard’ many electric cars but one of these buzzes past my office every day and the noise it makes sets my teeth on edge. Having said that, the idea appeals and this Honda is rather funky with a very cool interior. They’re having a laugh with the price though.

Pumpsmynads

268 posts

157 months

Monday 27th January 2020
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Toyota: “I wonder if people will notice the difference between the concept Supra and the final blobby version?”
Honda: “Hold my beer.”

Pesty

42,655 posts

257 months

Monday 27th January 2020
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Love the look of it.

But the range is poor.

Can we have a 300bhp type r version to complement

uk1988

55 posts

96 months

Monday 27th January 2020
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Different markets entirely, obviously, but I’d much rather spend £32k on a 4.5 year old M4, or shell out an extra £3k and pick up an Alfa 4C with 5000 miles on the clock.

Krikkit

26,581 posts

182 months

Monday 27th January 2020
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A1VDY said:
Yeah, save the planet with Ev cars... only slight downside is increased emissions from power stations & more nuclear waste to be buried for the next 10k years..
Which are hugely better than burning fossil fuels in a combustion engined car.

What wrong with burying nuclear waste? That's where it came from.

knebworth01

164 posts

121 months

Monday 27th January 2020
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Want to like this, as Honda is my fave brand and as a Tesla Model S owner I'm all over the EV thing, but as an EV owner, range is king and 80/90 miles just isnt enough. They need to put a bigger battery in this thing or owners will get sick of it pretty quick,
Also just want to say I do not get all the comments comparing it to buying a £30k m3 etc and saving the cash for fuel. These people have obvs never driven or seriously considered an EV or they wouldnt state such dross. If you want an EV, you're not ever going to consider an ICE no matter what it is, its not about value for money or performance per £, its a lifestyle choice.
I'll climb down off the soapbox now!

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

255 months

Monday 27th January 2020
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chris4652009 said:
I like it to
But not at £30k
Yeah, I can see it selling in japan where it'll be cool but price sensitive Europe when there are many other alternatives (Zoe, e208 ,i3, mini electric etc) it'll be tough when things like the eniro/ioniq/kona re closer in price too...

Seems the screens are a bit lagy is the only real technical downside if you can live with the range and cost.

Half of me thinks its on purpose so honda can point to the lack of demand for EVs, the other half wants to applaud them for doing something different..

FA57REN

1,023 posts

56 months

Monday 27th January 2020
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Krikkit said:
A Fiesta specced up to a similar spec to this, with an automatic gearbox, is knocking on for £23k. And that isn't even an EV (with all the benefits of driving one in an urban environment).
But who's speccing a Fiesta to such levels?

It's a city car, it doesn't need to be a Tactile Infotainment Experience. Drive to shop, buy milk.

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

255 months

Monday 27th January 2020
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knebworth01 said:
Also just want to say I do not get all the comments comparing it to buying a £30k m3 etc and saving the cash for fuel.
Usual Pistonheads fallacy of comparing a used car to a new car for pricing, M3 is a ~£60k car, close to double the cost and wouldnt be anywhere near in the running if you were looking for a small city car.

DonkeyApple

55,663 posts

170 months

Monday 27th January 2020
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Jaaws said:
DonkeyApple said:
There is a reason though as to why they’ve made it look cute rather than hot hatchy etc and that is because the price means their primary target in the UK is the affluent housewife. They have the funds, the home and the pottering habits that best suit small EVs.
You mean housewives like this?
https://www.hondaengineroom.co.uk/electric/ev/why-...
laugh
You have a binary mindset. wink

JonnyVTEC

3,009 posts

176 months

Monday 27th January 2020
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People moan about batteries and then something turns up where you can pretty much make 3 for every tesla 100D and suddenly the battery is ridiculously small.

Guess the alternative is the VW eUP if you want to avoid the iPhone option but this thing looks great in the world where there’s a risk all EVs end up looking the same.

David87

6,668 posts

213 months

Monday 27th January 2020
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uk1988 said:
Different markets entirely, obviously, but I’d much rather spend £32k on a 4.5 year old M4, or shell out an extra £3k and pick up an Alfa 4C with 5000 miles on the clock.
I’d rather add on an extra few million and buy a used Boeing 747.

Itsallicanafford

2,776 posts

160 months

Monday 27th January 2020
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Itsallicanafford said:
are you sure that price in accurate?

i'm getting £28,660.00 for the advance on the configurator (only £32K when you factor in fiance charges)

https://www.honda.co.uk/cars/new/honda-e/overview....

maybe i'm doing it wrong?
People complain that's its too expensive at £32K. Man points out that it costs £28,660.00 for the top spec model. People spend the next 10 hours complaining that its too expensive at £32K. Man gives up.

unsprung

5,467 posts

125 months

Monday 27th January 2020
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Johnny G Pipe said:
Love the retro Atari games console interior!
It truly is wood-grain-by-decal isn't it. Straight out of the late 70s to early 80s.

Given what's possible today (in terms of being, or appearing to be, authentic wood), this flashback is clearly a nudge and a wink. A nod to the culture-minded among the tech crowd. It's just a notch or two above an insider's joke.



Downward

3,649 posts

104 months

Monday 27th January 2020
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What the hell do all the screens do ?
Surely one for the driving and one for the media is enough.

I can see this blasting a lot of cars at the traffic lights for sure.

Still it’s priced for the middle class middle aged women with plenty of disposable income, Probably own a designer dog too.