RE: Honda e | Driven
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i love how ot looks and i like its range as it would be enough 90% of the time. But thr average wage in the UK is 28k so this is way more than most can afford. Also residuals may not be great of the battery diminishes over time plus where do you charge it if you live in a flat in the city.
Its great but these ideas are too expensive saving the planet in the futuer when you need to pay your mortgage and feed your kids today tends to make choice for you.
Its great but these ideas are too expensive saving the planet in the futuer when you need to pay your mortgage and feed your kids today tends to make choice for you.
Its funny how people seem to assume that if you buy an EV you are some environmental activist, its a leap of comprehension like getting a sandwich which happens to have no meat means you are a militant vegan.
A chap I work with got harangued about eco matters and how he was misguided when he bought his model S by someone with a 10 year old diesel Audi A4, he bought it because the price was right, it suited how he drove and how he didnt like spending money on fuel, the eco angle was low down on his agenda and I dont think he is alone. The argument from his colleague though ostensibly, on the face of it was about the ecological side but loosely translated as,
"He has a nice new shiny thing, I don't have a nice new shiny thing, where is my nice new shiny thing, must piss on his chips in whatever way I can"
Makes me laugh when classic enthusiasts get all preachy about Cobalt and Lithium in batteries being mined when their cars blow all manner of pollutants out, they moan about "electronics", I remember when the world only had uncatalysed cars with points and carbs, they stank ! and we would be up s
t street if they hadnt developed fuel injection, catalytic converters and all the emissions stuff, still are but EV's powered by renewables is the best hope we have for improving air quality in towns and cities.
Same with EV's, they arent perfect yet, but its early doors but they do look like they will take over, 1.3 percent in 2017 and and 2.8 percent in 2018, I think it was, its happening, joe Public is still buying IC engined cars but think that will wane in favour of EV's, they are nearly there but not enough for most, tipping point will come and ICE will get dropped my millions like a stone. I forsee still serviceable ICE cars being scrapped, not just old bangers but for a lot it will be like that 32 inch Pansonic telly you paid £1200 for in 1998, from technological marvel to obsolete item you and three strong chaps drop off at the local recycling center, even though it works perfectly well it is totally outclassed in every way by a £199 LCD.
This little Honda is expensive and has a poor range, for me, 99 percent of the time, it would do me fine. The dash reminded me a little of a really posh Mk1 Metro with some screens, in a good way, bet its a brilliant little thing for nipping round town and shorter journeys.
As for consumption, having any kind of personal four wheeled motorised transport is, globally speaking profligate. People wont stop buying new cars whatever they are powered by, hanging on to your trusty old ICE car will work for a while but it will get old and potentially conk out, meet with an accident, get legislated against or it may end up where getting petrol or diesel gets more difficult as petrol stations will close, thousands already have and the supermarkets wont keep them open unless profitable.
A chap I work with got harangued about eco matters and how he was misguided when he bought his model S by someone with a 10 year old diesel Audi A4, he bought it because the price was right, it suited how he drove and how he didnt like spending money on fuel, the eco angle was low down on his agenda and I dont think he is alone. The argument from his colleague though ostensibly, on the face of it was about the ecological side but loosely translated as,
"He has a nice new shiny thing, I don't have a nice new shiny thing, where is my nice new shiny thing, must piss on his chips in whatever way I can"
Makes me laugh when classic enthusiasts get all preachy about Cobalt and Lithium in batteries being mined when their cars blow all manner of pollutants out, they moan about "electronics", I remember when the world only had uncatalysed cars with points and carbs, they stank ! and we would be up s
t street if they hadnt developed fuel injection, catalytic converters and all the emissions stuff, still are but EV's powered by renewables is the best hope we have for improving air quality in towns and cities.Same with EV's, they arent perfect yet, but its early doors but they do look like they will take over, 1.3 percent in 2017 and and 2.8 percent in 2018, I think it was, its happening, joe Public is still buying IC engined cars but think that will wane in favour of EV's, they are nearly there but not enough for most, tipping point will come and ICE will get dropped my millions like a stone. I forsee still serviceable ICE cars being scrapped, not just old bangers but for a lot it will be like that 32 inch Pansonic telly you paid £1200 for in 1998, from technological marvel to obsolete item you and three strong chaps drop off at the local recycling center, even though it works perfectly well it is totally outclassed in every way by a £199 LCD.
This little Honda is expensive and has a poor range, for me, 99 percent of the time, it would do me fine. The dash reminded me a little of a really posh Mk1 Metro with some screens, in a good way, bet its a brilliant little thing for nipping round town and shorter journeys.
As for consumption, having any kind of personal four wheeled motorised transport is, globally speaking profligate. People wont stop buying new cars whatever they are powered by, hanging on to your trusty old ICE car will work for a while but it will get old and potentially conk out, meet with an accident, get legislated against or it may end up where getting petrol or diesel gets more difficult as petrol stations will close, thousands already have and the supermarkets wont keep them open unless profitable.
sxmwht said:
Water and electricity in fact mix VERY well
So it wasn’t just me who saw the vertical charging port with the lid acting as a funnel to send more rain into the cavity which could enter the socket as the cable is unclipped...I’m sure they have drain holes but that’s a problem that shouldn’t need fixing!
I like it. Not as much as I liked the concept, obviously, but it's still a well proportioned little hatchback.
I don't think the article is very well written, the line:
"The Single Pedal Control System, with regen adjusted by paddles on the wheel, works really nicely as well", left me thinking that the car only has one pedal to control it. I looked it up ( https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/first-... ) and the single-pedal control function is a selectable driving mode.
So we've still got a brake pedal, for another couple of years anyway.
I don't think the article is very well written, the line:
"The Single Pedal Control System, with regen adjusted by paddles on the wheel, works really nicely as well", left me thinking that the car only has one pedal to control it. I looked it up ( https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/first-... ) and the single-pedal control function is a selectable driving mode.
So we've still got a brake pedal, for another couple of years anyway.
Ordered a white one. I know what I'm letting myself in for as it'll be replacing my somewhat knackered Mitsubishi I-MiEV that I've been blatting about in for the last eight years. That too is rear-wheel drive, turns on a sixpence, costs hardly anything to run and goes like stink off the line. Only trouble is it's now down to a range of less than 30 miles with the heating on 
And they were £35k new
And they were £35k new
are you sure that price in accurate?
i'm getting £28,660.00 for the advance on the configurator (only £32K when you factor in fiance charges)
https://www.honda.co.uk/cars/new/honda-e/overview....
maybe i'm doing it wrong?
i'm getting £28,660.00 for the advance on the configurator (only £32K when you factor in fiance charges)
https://www.honda.co.uk/cars/new/honda-e/overview....
maybe i'm doing it wrong?
A bit too retro for me and the range is pretty poor. New EV's should be bettering what is already out there, otherwise why choose them.
I managed to pick up a pre-reg 94 i3s with 50miles on the clock for £28k.
Max range I've seen is 150 in the summer and the worst 110 in -5 degrees, wind and rain.
I managed to pick up a pre-reg 94 i3s with 50miles on the clock for £28k.
Max range I've seen is 150 in the summer and the worst 110 in -5 degrees, wind and rain.
J4CKO said:
Its funny how people seem to assume that if you buy an EV you are some environmental activist, its a leap of comprehension like getting a sandwich which happens to have no meat means you are a militant vegan.
A chap I work with got harangued about eco matters and how he was misguided when he bought his model S by someone with a 10 year old diesel Audi A4, he bought it because the price was right, it suited how he drove and how he didnt like spending money on fuel, the eco angle was low down on his agenda and I dont think he is alone. The argument from his colleague though ostensibly, on the face of it was about the ecological side but loosely translated as,
"He has a nice new shiny thing, I don't have a nice new shiny thing, where is my nice new shiny thing, must piss on his chips in whatever way I can"
Makes me laugh when classic enthusiasts get all preachy about Cobalt and Lithium in batteries being mined when their cars blow all manner of pollutants out, they moan about "electronics", I remember when the world only had uncatalysed cars with points and carbs, they stank ! and we would be up st street if they hadnt developed fuel injection, catalytic converters and all the emissions stuff, still are but EV's powered by renewables is the best hope we have for improving air quality in towns and cities.
Same with EV's, they arent perfect yet, but its early doors but they do look like they will take over, 1.3 percent in 2017 and and 2.8 percent in 2018, I think it was, its happening, joe Public is still buying IC engined cars but think that will wane in favour of EV's, they are nearly there but not enough for most, tipping point will come and ICE will get dropped my millions like a stone. I forsee still serviceable ICE cars being scrapped, not just old bangers but for a lot it will be like that 32 inch Pansonic telly you paid £1200 for in 1998, from technological marvel to obsolete item you and three strong chaps drop off at the local recycling center, even though it works perfectly well it is totally outclassed in every way by a £199 LCD.
This little Honda is expensive and has a poor range, for me, 99 percent of the time, it would do me fine. The dash reminded me a little of a really posh Mk1 Metro with some screens, in a good way, bet its a brilliant little thing for nipping round town and shorter journeys.
As for consumption, having any kind of personal four wheeled motorised transport is, globally speaking profligate. People wont stop buying new cars whatever they are powered by, hanging on to your trusty old ICE car will work for a while but it will get old and potentially conk out, meet with an accident, get legislated against or it may end up where getting petrol or diesel gets more difficult as petrol stations will close, thousands already have and the supermarkets wont keep them open unless profitable.
I agree entirely. Would just counter that while some are making an assumption that people may be switching to EV on environmental grounds it is also very much the case that many rampant consumers are trying to use ‘environmental’ arguments like some use man maths to socially justify their consumption. A chap I work with got harangued about eco matters and how he was misguided when he bought his model S by someone with a 10 year old diesel Audi A4, he bought it because the price was right, it suited how he drove and how he didnt like spending money on fuel, the eco angle was low down on his agenda and I dont think he is alone. The argument from his colleague though ostensibly, on the face of it was about the ecological side but loosely translated as,
"He has a nice new shiny thing, I don't have a nice new shiny thing, where is my nice new shiny thing, must piss on his chips in whatever way I can"
Makes me laugh when classic enthusiasts get all preachy about Cobalt and Lithium in batteries being mined when their cars blow all manner of pollutants out, they moan about "electronics", I remember when the world only had uncatalysed cars with points and carbs, they stank ! and we would be up s
t street if they hadnt developed fuel injection, catalytic converters and all the emissions stuff, still are but EV's powered by renewables is the best hope we have for improving air quality in towns and cities.Same with EV's, they arent perfect yet, but its early doors but they do look like they will take over, 1.3 percent in 2017 and and 2.8 percent in 2018, I think it was, its happening, joe Public is still buying IC engined cars but think that will wane in favour of EV's, they are nearly there but not enough for most, tipping point will come and ICE will get dropped my millions like a stone. I forsee still serviceable ICE cars being scrapped, not just old bangers but for a lot it will be like that 32 inch Pansonic telly you paid £1200 for in 1998, from technological marvel to obsolete item you and three strong chaps drop off at the local recycling center, even though it works perfectly well it is totally outclassed in every way by a £199 LCD.
This little Honda is expensive and has a poor range, for me, 99 percent of the time, it would do me fine. The dash reminded me a little of a really posh Mk1 Metro with some screens, in a good way, bet its a brilliant little thing for nipping round town and shorter journeys.
As for consumption, having any kind of personal four wheeled motorised transport is, globally speaking profligate. People wont stop buying new cars whatever they are powered by, hanging on to your trusty old ICE car will work for a while but it will get old and potentially conk out, meet with an accident, get legislated against or it may end up where getting petrol or diesel gets more difficult as petrol stations will close, thousands already have and the supermarkets wont keep them open unless profitable.
It’s one of those aspects that cuts both ways.
Jaaws said:
Ordered a white one. I know what I'm letting myself in for as it'll be replacing my somewhat knackered Mitsubishi I-MiEV that I've been blatting about in for the last eight years. That too is rear-wheel drive, turns on a sixpence, costs hardly anything to run and goes like stink off the line. Only trouble is it's now down to a range of less than 30 miles with the heating on
And they were £35k new
What do they do with the battery in the old one?And they were £35k new
TX.
Yeah, technically we have that lamp-post charging thing in Oxford. There's one at the end of the street I live on.
It has a BMW i3 plugged into it. Permanently. I don't think they even drive it, it just lives there. There needs to be at least a hundred times more of the things before they really become useful because as it stands they're all permanently in use.
It has a BMW i3 plugged into it. Permanently. I don't think they even drive it, it just lives there. There needs to be at least a hundred times more of the things before they really become useful because as it stands they're all permanently in use.
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