RE: Honda e | Driven

[maffski]

Cardinal Hips said:

I can't quite place it, but the dash reminds me of something....



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[Miserablegit]

Jaaws said:

Ordered a white one. I know what I'm letting myself in for as it'll be replacing my somewhat knackered Mitsubishi I-MiEV that I've been blatting about in for the last eight years. That too is rear-wheel drive, turns on a sixpence, costs hardly anything to run and goes like stink off the line. Only trouble is it's now down to a range of less than 30 miles with the heating on

And they were £35k new

What happens to your old one? I can't see a dealer putting a new battery pack in it or is that what they will do?

[Jaaws]

Miserablegit said:

Jaaws said:

Ordered a white one. I know what I'm letting myself in for as it'll be replacing my somewhat knackered Mitsubishi I-MiEV that I've been blatting about in for the last eight years. That too is rear-wheel drive, turns on a sixpence, costs hardly anything to run and goes like stink off the line. Only trouble is it's now down to a range of less than 30 miles with the heating on

And they were £35k new

What happens to your old one? I can't see a dealer putting a new battery pack in it or is that what they will do?

We Buy ANY Cars

[DonkeyApple]

wemorgan said:

FA57REN said:

I'd hoped for a sort of e-Jazz, not some mobile games console. This is meant to be a short-trip city car. Rip out the wood, screens, Honda AI, trick cameras. Add a phone dock and half the price.

I imagine most of the cost is within the battery modules.

Of the current lack of economies of scale. They’ve ripped out a large slab of batteries from this and it’s still hugely expensive. EVs due to their simplicity will eventually end up as much cheaper to make than comparable ICE cars and all that wky 80s screen tat probably only costs pennies to stick in there.

They’re either taking the piss with the pricing, specifically don’t want huge demand because production is all a bit inefficient at present or their low numbers and low demand just simply means the economies of scale for churning out cheap city cars doesn’t yet exist.

[Miserablegit]

Jaaws said:

We Buy ANY Cars

I can't say I blame you but I'm surprised these are basically scrap after 8 years...They might as well have a ringpull to open them if they are that disposable.

[PistonBroker]

I think it looks great and range isn't a concern if it replaces our 14yo MINI Cooper which is the car we use to bimble 3 miles to the office and back.

I feel more inclined to go the whole hog though - an ipace or e-tron, for instance, could replace the long-distance diesel Disco Sport and do the MINI's bimbling as well. Replacing two cars in one fell swoop.

[Krikkit]

I think these look bloody brilliant - can't understand the hatred for it. It's an interesting, distinctive piece of exterior styling that screams Honda japanese-ness. The interior is a clever, modern design, and it absolutely nails the brief of a small, city-EV that could be a 2nd or 3rd household car (surely a PH staple?)

[DonkeyApple]

Krikkit said:

I think these look bloody brilliant - can't understand the hatred for it. It's an interesting, distinctive piece of exterior styling that screams Honda japanese-ness. The interior is a clever, modern design, and it absolutely nails the brief of a small, city-EV that could be a 2nd or 3rd household car (surely a PH staple?)

Surely the Ford Fiesta is the city car that absolutely nails the brief as at dirt cheap, completely unrestricted in usage and totally fire and forget as a third car. Which arguably goes towards explaining why it’s the biggest selling car in the UK.

Where is the law that states because the engine is electric the dash must resemble some tat from the 80s?

For a small city car you just want simplicity, cheapness and convenience. While this looks like it will be a bit of fun to drive and certainly is a nice looking car the only brief that it absolutely nailed is to be hugely expensive, hugely compromised and with an interior that looks like someone at Leyland let Clive Sinclair loose on a Metro.

[Hereward]

I think these are great and I could see a pre-owned one in my life a few years from now. It’s such a cool gadget.

I currently have a petrol Golf for my 6 mile each way commute to and from the railway station. The Golf barely gets the oil up to temperature. The Honda would fill that brief beautifully and can have a weekly battery charge at the weekend whilst I use my 2x V8’s and 1x V12 instead.

I assume electric cars can produce instant cabin heat? That would be awesome on these Winter nights.

[Mits]

I use the mobile to tell my i3 what time i’m leaving and it will pre heat the battery, warm the cabin and defrost the windows. All I do is unplug and drive off.
Great on these cold winter mornings.

[Hereward]

Mits said:

I use the mobile to tell my i3 what time i’m leaving and it will pre heat the battery, warm the cabin and defrost the windows. All I do is unplug and drive off.
Great on these cold winter mornings.

That is brilliant. The i3 is the only other alternative I have thought about (small and premium feel).

[Neil G60]

It'll still cost a fortune to park in any large city and you'll be stuck in the same gridlock. Driving in any city in the UK at least makes no sense at all. Train, cycle or walk.

[biggbn]

It is nice, I like it. But what does it bring that an electric smart or twingo doesn't?

[Munter]

biggbn said:

It is nice, I like it. But what does it bring that an electric smart or twingo doesn't?

Style. And not having a ttty name.

In terms of the people it's aimed at, nothing else but style and interior equipment matters to desirability.

[Ocho]

From a recycling point of view, it's clever how they've recycled the front end on the back. Or is it the back end on the front?

[Jamescrs]

Something like this would be absolutely ideal as a second car in our household, we live in the suburbs of a big city and have a driveway for off road parking but 32k! Really??
I'm not an electric car nut at all but the wife would happily run to work and back in one and drive the kids around.

I look forward to a manufacturer at some point coming out with a reasonably priced electric city car and no doubt they will clean up in the market, this isn't the answer though.

[Venturist]

Jamescrs said:

Something like this would be absolutely ideal as a second car in our household, we live in the suburbs of a big city and have a driveway for off road parking but 32k! Really??
I'm not an electric car nut at all but the wife would happily run to work and back in one and drive the kids around.

I look forward to a manufacturer at some point coming out with a reasonably priced electric city car and no doubt they will clean up in the market, this isn't the answer though.

Shortly before they go bust from the losses. Making electric cars is still expensive.

[Dave Hedgehog]

Jamescrs said:

I look forward to a manufacturer at some point coming out with a reasonably priced electric city car and no doubt they will clean up in the market, this isn't the answer though.

Odds are it will be a Chinese maker, there are so many of them making a large number of models in China already, the MG ZS is already the best value EV by some margin and a pretty decent 5 ncap star crossover for the money

BYD have already sold 50k electric bus's!!

http://www.byd.com/en/news/2019-01-21/BYD-Rolls-Ou...

Edited by Dave Hedgehog on Monday 27th January 15:24

[dibblecorse]

Ridiculous money for a 93 mile range city car, I'm not anti EV as we run an i3 for all short / medium stuff, just think this misses the mark and no one will buy it over the (also over priced) EV Mini.

[Terminator X]

Jamescrs said:

Something like this would be absolutely ideal as a second car in our household, we live in the suburbs of a big city and have a driveway for off road parking but 32k! Really??
I'm not an electric car nut at all but the wife would happily run to work and back in one and drive the kids around.

I look forward to a manufacturer at some point coming out with a reasonably priced electric city car and no doubt they will clean up in the market, this isn't the answer though.

EV's are expensive. If you want to save the planet, dig deep. Greta will thank you.

TX.