RE: Mercedes-Benz S500 | Spotted

RE: Mercedes-Benz S500 | Spotted

Monday 10th February 2020

Mercedes-Benz S500 | Spotted

Take one Mercedes V8 two-door, add three years and 15,000 miles. Remove £55,000...



Depreciation either really hurts, or really helps. Depends on your standpoint. Take this Mercedes-Benz S500 coupe AMG Line, for example, which has lost roughly a supermini's worth in value every year since 2017. For the original purchaser, that's likely to have caused headache, but for a second-hand buyer after a lot of car for their money, it's a godsend. Here we have one of the most luxurious high-powered coupes, which retailed for about £100k in 2017 and has just 15,000 miles on the clock, up for a £55k discount.

Obviously such a reduction does not equate to any saving when it comes to running costs; that old 4.7 V8 still likes a drink. And don't get us started on servicing, not to mention any unforeseen issues that might crop up when the manufacturer warranty runs out next year. But there's no beating around the bush - this is top-end S-Class plushness and brawn for an outlay that barely surpasses the optioned-up price of a posh hatchback these days. With its own options factored in, it's probably half price.


The old S500 arguably lacks the butchness of its successor's V8 variants, but in some ways that adds to the aura. It's 454hp and 516lb ft remains muscular, but more about elegance shove than strong-arming. And it's still equipped with high-tech chassis hardware, such as camera-informed air suspension that cuts lateral body roll while allowing for vertical absorption of bumps. It's not quite C63 responsive - that's a given - but as a machine to cover vast distances at consistently high pace with little effort from the driver, it's a terrific bit of engineering.

The stats emphasise that. 62mph in this two-tonne two-door comes in 4.6 seconds, while the turbocharged engine is allowed to plough the S500 forwards at increasing knots until the 155mph limiter. The claimed fuel economy of 28.5mpg comes from the old days of optimistic lab test results, true, but with cylinder deactivation tech on board and a seven-speed automatic keen to lean on the motor's torque, it can just about sip on fuel if you allow the S500 to settle on a motorway run. The temptation to awaken the beast up front, however, will always remain strong.


You'll likely be aware of Mercedes's decision to swap V8 power for hybrid four-pot propulsion in the next C63, so expect all of the eight-cylinder models in its line-up to be gradually phased out the years. This means that while an S500 like this might not feel particularly unique today, that scenario will likely change only a handful of years from now. Today's Spotted almost certainly isn't done depreciating just yet, but it may well remain a peak example of V8 luxury motoring. And for that alone, it's worth going along for the ride.


SPECIFICATION - MERCEDES-BENZ S500 AMG LINE
Engine: 4,663cc, V8, twin-turbocharged
Transmission: 7-speed automatic, rear-wheel drive
Power (hp): 454@5,250rpm
Torque (lb ft): 516@1,800rpm
MPG: 28.5
CO2: 232g/km
Recorded mileage: 15,000
First registered: 2017
Price new: c. £100,000
Yours for: £45,990

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milu

Original Poster:

2,354 posts

266 months

Monday 10th February 2020
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This time last year I had the previous gen Cl500. At the time I thought one of these would be a nice upgrade eventually.
However I sold the CL a bit disappointed. In one respect it was very well made and felt top of the range. However it was also pretty poor.
Mine was low mileage and essentially mint but still needed the interior blower fan replacing as well as ongoing problems with the hifi amp which is a key part of the infotainment and very expensive.
Also some weird suspension behaviour.

I do miss it though and would still like one of these newer ones but wouldn't be fooled by the build quality.

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 10th February 2020
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As good as these type of cars are but a few years down the line and some of the gadgets on it start going wrong they just become an expensive old barge not worth a lot.

A1VDY

3,575 posts

127 months

Monday 10th February 2020
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Will continue to lose the cost of two more superminis within the next two years.

Augustus Windsock

3,370 posts

155 months

Monday 10th February 2020
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“Take this Mercedes-Benz S500 coupe AMG Line, for example, which has lost roughly a supermini's worth in value every year since 2017. For the original purchaser, that's likely to have caused headache, but for a second-hand buyer after a lot of car for their money, it's a godsend.”
I’d suggest the other way round, as the original ‘owner’ would no doubt be a company, so the depreciation doesn’t matter as much.
At 3+ years old it will drop into the hands of the (well-healed) hoi polloi, and although depreciation won’t be as great it will still be painful, and the running costs will remain pretty much the same (although servicing might be at ‘specialists’.
Lovely thing but as I haven’t got a decent kidney to sell when it all goes badly wrong, I’ll pass

raspy

1,480 posts

94 months

Monday 10th February 2020
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Misleading to quote a list price of 100k. Given the way MB like to discount their cars in the UK, especially with finance deals, I very much doubt someone paid 100k for this brand new.

saxy

258 posts

124 months

Monday 10th February 2020
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It’ll be nice for a couple weeks and then become a money pit. The best or nothing. Once it stops being great it becomes garbage.

cerb4.5lee

30,673 posts

180 months

Monday 10th February 2020
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I'd certainly enjoy wafting around in this for sure. I'd appreciate the torquey V8 as well and you don't see many S Classes as coupes.

mooseracer

1,895 posts

170 months

Monday 10th February 2020
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3 years old and minimal miles. Stay away it's about to fall apart and become a "money pit".

We all know cars do this, especially expensive ones.

TyrannosauRoss Lex

35,088 posts

212 months

Monday 10th February 2020
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A1VDY said:
Will continue to lose the cost of two more superminis within the next two years.
But a supermini costs more than £22500, and this won't be worth £0 in 2 years time....? I reckon it'd be worth over £30k in 2 years, or thereabouts.

Augustus Windsock

3,370 posts

155 months

Monday 10th February 2020
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TyrannosauRoss Lex said:
A1VDY said:
Will continue to lose the cost of two more superminis within the next two years.
But a supermini costs more than £22500, and this won't be worth £0 in 2 years time....? I reckon it'd be worth over £30k in 2 years, or thereabouts.
Buy it and let us know! 😊
Or seek crowdfunding for the running costs 👍

Itsallicanafford

2,771 posts

159 months

Monday 10th February 2020
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i'm a Lexus driver, it just never crosses my mind that anything will ever go wrong with anything....can Mercedes not get things right for a Flagship product?

milu

Original Poster:

2,354 posts

266 months

Monday 10th February 2020
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Itsallicanafford said:
i'm a Lexus driver, it just never crosses my mind that anything will ever go wrong with anything....can Mercedes not get things right for a Flagship product?
That’s just it, they can’t.
I’ve never had to replace a heater blower in over 60 cars,including some rough ones! It’s a just a cheap fan when you get it out.
The least said about the crap hifi amp the better.
Certainly not £100k quality

WCZ

10,531 posts

194 months

Monday 10th February 2020
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great value conisdering how expensive new cars are - I just spec'd a golf 8 to £33k that has a crappy 110hp diesel engine for example


IainF

149 posts

255 months

Monday 10th February 2020
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"...but more about elegance shove than strong-arming."

"...to be gradually phased out the years."

Do we not doo prof reading any more?




longblackcoat

5,047 posts

183 months

Monday 10th February 2020
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milu said:
Itsallicanafford said:
i'm a Lexus driver, it just never crosses my mind that anything will ever go wrong with anything....can Mercedes not get things right for a Flagship product?
That’s just it, they can’t.
I’ve never had to replace a heater blower in over 60 cars,including some rough ones! It’s a just a cheap fan when you get it out.
The least said about the crap hifi amp the better.
Certainly not £100k quality
The heater motor goes if you don't ensure that the drain under the scuttle is clear - takes about 10 seconds to clear it every three or four months, so really not an issue. It's unfortunate that the knock-on is that there's water ingress to the heater blower after a good few months, but it's not hard to get the motor out, and spare components are readily available on eBay for very little. All of this is entirely avoidable if owners do the tiniest bit of work.


Sandpit Steve

10,060 posts

74 months

Monday 10th February 2020
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It’s 2025’s £8k Brave Pill.

TyrannosauRoss Lex

35,088 posts

212 months

Monday 10th February 2020
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longblackcoat said:
milu said:
Itsallicanafford said:
i'm a Lexus driver, it just never crosses my mind that anything will ever go wrong with anything....can Mercedes not get things right for a Flagship product?
That’s just it, they can’t.
I’ve never had to replace a heater blower in over 60 cars,including some rough ones! It’s a just a cheap fan when you get it out.
The least said about the crap hifi amp the better.
Certainly not £100k quality
The heater motor goes if you don't ensure that the drain under the scuttle is clear - takes about 10 seconds to clear it every three or four months, so really not an issue. It's unfortunate that the knock-on is that there's water ingress to the heater blower after a good few months, but it's not hard to get the motor out, and spare components are readily available on eBay for very little. All of this is entirely avoidable if owners do the tiniest bit of work.
Whilst that may be so, it's not a problem on just about any other car, and if it does need doing, is it written in the service schedule?

longblackcoat

5,047 posts

183 months

Monday 10th February 2020
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TyrannosauRoss Lex said:
longblackcoat said:
milu said:
Itsallicanafford said:
i'm a Lexus driver, it just never crosses my mind that anything will ever go wrong with anything....can Mercedes not get things right for a Flagship product?
That’s just it, they can’t.
I’ve never had to replace a heater blower in over 60 cars,including some rough ones! It’s a just a cheap fan when you get it out.
The least said about the crap hifi amp the better.
Certainly not £100k quality
The heater motor goes if you don't ensure that the drain under the scuttle is clear - takes about 10 seconds to clear it every three or four months, so really not an issue. It's unfortunate that the knock-on is that there's water ingress to the heater blower after a good few months, but it's not hard to get the motor out, and spare components are readily available on eBay for very little. All of this is entirely avoidable if owners do the tiniest bit of work.
Whilst that may be so, it's not a problem on just about any other car, and if it does need doing, is it written in the service schedule?
Not sure about other cars; I’m certain that all drain holes should be inspected as part of a service. Same as the drains for sunroofs (I’ve had a flooded Discovery 3 as a result).

Not the most ideal design, admittedly; I just wanted to point out that there’s no particular weakness in the heater motor.

Motormouth88

243 posts

60 months

Monday 10th February 2020
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That is quite an astonishing depreciation rate

ate one too

2,902 posts

146 months

Monday 10th February 2020
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Motormouth88 said:
That is quite an astonishing depreciation rate
No st Sherlock ... 50% depreciation in 3 years is fairly normal for £100K German barges ( see BMW 6/7/8/series for reference )