Bentley Bentayga, London. What's the point?
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I assumed that the question about me eating out was trying to provoke the answer that I eat at establishements with 3 Michelin stars every evening in order to allow a "hah, gotcha!" from the questioner... or possibly that I answer that I eat out only at Hungry Horse to demonstrate that I am, in fact, an oik.
DoubleD said:
DoubleD said:
MC Bodge said:
We are not talking about a Rolls Royce Phantom, although that would be even more of a pain to drive and park in London.
At one time an expensive car would be more reliable and much more comfortable and luxurious. Normal cars were often primitive.
It's not really about the "luxury" or "comfort" nowadays. Many normal other cars are luxurious -most modern cars have more features than you can shake a stick at, and many are not in any way uncomfortable or unreliable.
So are you saying that a Bentley isnt any more comfortable and luxurious than a new but much cheaper car? Say something like a focus or a mondeo?At one time an expensive car would be more reliable and much more comfortable and luxurious. Normal cars were often primitive.
It's not really about the "luxury" or "comfort" nowadays. Many normal other cars are luxurious -most modern cars have more features than you can shake a stick at, and many are not in any way uncomfortable or unreliable.
MC Bodge said:
I assumed that the question about me eating out was trying to provoke the answer that I eat at establishements with 3 Michelin stars every evening in order to allow a "hah, gotcha!" from the questioner... or possibly that I answer that I eat out only at Hungry Horse to demonstrate that I am, in fact, an oik.
You’re Roger the Dodger that’s what you are sonny JimFiammetta said:
As I said how many other cars have double glazing ?
Air suspension ?
Real wood , everything covered in leather not just the seats .I mean everything.....,door jams , centre console , rear parcel shelf to name a few .
Everything is either leather metal ( switches ) or real wood .
With the woods you can spec extra woods .
Just a nice place to be .
My old ls400 had a wonderful cabin that looked like plastic wood and plastic but was, in fact, beautiful wood and stitched leather dash etc. Wonderfully tactile once you realised!! So, I get you on that one. Beautifully refined car, the most refined I have owned, but I shop at the basement bargain end of the store....Air suspension ?
Real wood , everything covered in leather not just the seats .I mean everything.....,door jams , centre console , rear parcel shelf to name a few .
Everything is either leather metal ( switches ) or real wood .
With the woods you can spec extra woods .
Just a nice place to be .
biggbn said:
Fiammetta said:
As I said how many other cars have double glazing ?
Air suspension ?
Real wood , everything covered in leather not just the seats .I mean everything.....,door jams , centre console , rear parcel shelf to name a few .
Everything is either leather metal ( switches ) or real wood .
With the woods you can spec extra woods .
Just a nice place to be .
My old ls400 had a wonderful cabin that looked like plastic wood and plastic but was, in fact, beautiful wood and stitched leather dash etc. Wonderfully tactile once you realised!! So, I get you on that one. Beautifully refined car, the most refined I have owned, but I shop at the basement bargain end of the store....Air suspension ?
Real wood , everything covered in leather not just the seats .I mean everything.....,door jams , centre console , rear parcel shelf to name a few .
Everything is either leather metal ( switches ) or real wood .
With the woods you can spec extra woods .
Just a nice place to be .
MC Bodge said:
I assumed that the question about me eating out was trying to provoke the answer that I eat at establishements with 3 Michelin stars every evening in order to allow a "hah, gotcha!" from the questioner... or possibly that I answer that I eat out only at Hungry Horse to demonstrate that I am, in fact, an oik.
So how much do you spend when you eat out? DoubleD said:
DoubleD said:
DoubleD said:
MC Bodge said:
We are not talking about a Rolls Royce Phantom, although that would be even more of a pain to drive and park in London.
At one time an expensive car would be more reliable and much more comfortable and luxurious. Normal cars were often primitive.
It's not really about the "luxury" or "comfort" nowadays. Many normal other cars are luxurious -most modern cars have more features than you can shake a stick at, and many are not in any way uncomfortable or unreliable.
So are you saying that a Bentley isnt any more comfortable and luxurious than a new but much cheaper car? Say something like a focus or a mondeo?At one time an expensive car would be more reliable and much more comfortable and luxurious. Normal cars were often primitive.
It's not really about the "luxury" or "comfort" nowadays. Many normal other cars are luxurious -most modern cars have more features than you can shake a stick at, and many are not in any way uncomfortable or unreliable.
TyrannosauRoss Lex said:
biggbn said:
Fiammetta said:
As I said how many other cars have double glazing ?
Air suspension ?
Real wood , everything covered in leather not just the seats .I mean everything.....,door jams , centre console , rear parcel shelf to name a few .
Everything is either leather metal ( switches ) or real wood .
With the woods you can spec extra woods .
Just a nice place to be .
My old ls400 had a wonderful cabin that looked like plastic wood and plastic but was, in fact, beautiful wood and stitched leather dash etc. Wonderfully tactile once you realised!! So, I get you on that one. Beautifully refined car, the most refined I have owned, but I shop at the basement bargain end of the store....Air suspension ?
Real wood , everything covered in leather not just the seats .I mean everything.....,door jams , centre console , rear parcel shelf to name a few .
Everything is either leather metal ( switches ) or real wood .
With the woods you can spec extra woods .
Just a nice place to be .
My biggest problem with the Bentley, and the big Rolls SUV is they are soooo ugly. Ugly every day and twice on a Sunday. I saw the lambo SUV outside a Tesco the other day and it wasn't much better to be fair
Edited by biggbn on Saturday 22 February 00:18
It's odd how OP starting this discussion focusing on the financial justifications for a Bentayaga, but then quickly changed the discussion into carbon footprint.
I can afford a Bentayaga, but wouldn't buy one, simply because I don't want one. OP, step back a few paces and realise if you can afford one, you want one (and therefore buy one), you don't 'need' one. Ultimately it seems you are unable to place yourself into the shoes of a person who is able to afford 10 or 20 Bentayagas. If you had that much money, even if you didn't want one you might get one anyway, just because you can!
I can afford a Bentayaga, but wouldn't buy one, simply because I don't want one. OP, step back a few paces and realise if you can afford one, you want one (and therefore buy one), you don't 'need' one. Ultimately it seems you are unable to place yourself into the shoes of a person who is able to afford 10 or 20 Bentayagas. If you had that much money, even if you didn't want one you might get one anyway, just because you can!
biggbn said:
Hence I said most refined car I have owned. Nowhere did I compare it to the Bentley which I am sure is a different league. I was merely suggesting I understood the posters point about a nice, restful cabin and refined drivetrain. Jags were much nicer to sit in than the ls, but nowhere near as restful or refined strangely. I will not own another big barge until I can afford another Lexus!! My old ls spoilt me.
My biggest problem with the Bentley, and the big Rolls SUV is they are soooo ugly. Ugly every day and twice on a Sunday. I saw the lambo SUV outside a Tesco the other day and it wasn't much better to be fair
Hello mateMy biggest problem with the Bentley, and the big Rolls SUV is they are soooo ugly. Ugly every day and twice on a Sunday. I saw the lambo SUV outside a Tesco the other day and it wasn't much better to be fair
Edited by biggbn on Saturday 22 February 00:18
An ex-neighbour has a huge old Lexus, it must be what 20-25 years old easily. I think they’re made of cast iron or something it never breaks down, probably worth £800 but incredibly reliable and possibly the best used luxo barge out there. I wouldn’t shy away from buying one if I wanted one
Re the big SUVs being ugly you’re not wrong. They looks so vulgar and coarse. I’m not sure how Range Rover avoids it it must be their heritage in the segment. If I had all the money in the world my SUV would be a FFRR if some sort and not in bloody purple either!
biggbn said:
TyrannosauRoss Lex said:
biggbn said:
Fiammetta said:
As I said how many other cars have double glazing ?
Air suspension ?
Real wood , everything covered in leather not just the seats .I mean everything.....,door jams , centre console , rear parcel shelf to name a few .
Everything is either leather metal ( switches ) or real wood .
With the woods you can spec extra woods .
Just a nice place to be .
My old ls400 had a wonderful cabin that looked like plastic wood and plastic but was, in fact, beautiful wood and stitched leather dash etc. Wonderfully tactile once you realised!! So, I get you on that one. Beautifully refined car, the most refined I have owned, but I shop at the basement bargain end of the store....Air suspension ?
Real wood , everything covered in leather not just the seats .I mean everything.....,door jams , centre console , rear parcel shelf to name a few .
Everything is either leather metal ( switches ) or real wood .
With the woods you can spec extra woods .
Just a nice place to be .
My biggest problem with the Bentley, and the big Rolls SUV is they are soooo ugly. Ugly every day and twice on a Sunday. I saw the lambo SUV outside a Tesco the other day and it wasn't much better to be fair
Edited by biggbn on Saturday 22 February 00:18
A1VDY said:
hungry_hog said:
Unexpected?
See them almost daily. The similarly sized RRS/FFRR is extremely common in London for people with a pretty penny to spend.
I guess the point is (for a fella) showing wealth, showing off and attracting like-minded puffy lipped women?
For a girl - showing other yummy mummies how successful you are and attracting the guy with tattoos and Gucci trainers.
Seem pretty compelling reasons to me!
How really sad is that.See them almost daily. The similarly sized RRS/FFRR is extremely common in London for people with a pretty penny to spend.
I guess the point is (for a fella) showing wealth, showing off and attracting like-minded puffy lipped women?
For a girl - showing other yummy mummies how successful you are and attracting the guy with tattoos and Gucci trainers.
Seem pretty compelling reasons to me!
We all come with nothing and go with nothing yet some feel the need to actually try to show they have money. In reality though it's mostly those who dress in baggy trousers, jacket with elbow patches and those that drive around in a rusty nondescript car who have the real money. The others it's all pcp and finance, that's what the others are showing, how much they're in debt..
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TyrannosauRoss Lex said:
They are very good cars They aren't exciting, mind, and some would argue they lack soul/character....but they do get under your skin after a while.
I had a 400 for a while, gold with beige leather It was fun in a very big and reasonably quick way again, parking was a PITA tho!
The boot was HUUUGE too
lampchair said:
TyrannosauRoss Lex said:
They are very good cars They aren't exciting, mind, and some would argue they lack soul/character....but they do get under your skin after a while.
I had a 400 for a while, gold with beige leather It was fun in a very big and reasonably quick way again, parking was a PITA tho!
The boot was HUUUGE too
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