RE: BMW M340i Touring vs. Audi S4 Avant
Discussion
cerb4.5lee said:
Put the B58 petrol engine into the Audi and then that would be pretty much ideal for me. I much prefer the way the Audi looks inside and out but I'd prefer a petrol engine under the bonnet.
The speedo/rev counter in the 3 series looks absolutely pony to my eyes. I thought that I liked the shape of the new 3 series but I'm not keen on this at all, I think that the White colour just doesn't suit it. I really like the Blue ones(saloons) I've seen out on the road though.
Yup. The BMW digital dash looks bobbins. I don’t like the colours not the silly shapes. It’s change for changes sake. The LCI2 dials from the previous cars are much nicer in my humble opinion. The speedo/rev counter in the 3 series looks absolutely pony to my eyes. I thought that I liked the shape of the new 3 series but I'm not keen on this at all, I think that the White colour just doesn't suit it. I really like the Blue ones(saloons) I've seen out on the road though.
But at least it retains buttons and the idrive controller. I could live with the manky screens for that alone.
cerb4.5lee said:
Court_S said:
The LCI2 dials from the previous cars are much nicer in my humble opinion.
They are the ones that look like traditional analogue dials but they are digital instead aren't they? They do look really good to me for sure.
Court_S said:
cerb4.5lee said:
Court_S said:
The LCI2 dials from the previous cars are much nicer in my humble opinion.
They are the ones that look like traditional analogue dials but they are digital instead aren't they? They do look really good to me for sure.
They are a very nice mix of modern and traditional BMW I reckon.
xjay1337 said:
Court_S said:
Sport220 said:
I’ll have a W205 C 63, thank you very much. And preferably not an Estate, this “Fast Estate” concept has become fully council.
The C63 in my opinion is hideous in anything other than estate form.I don’t think it’s become fully council; most in the UK seem to dislike estates.
abzmike said:
Accuracy is nice, but doesn’t really matter because no one pays list whether it’s cash, credit or hire.
Sure, but an article that's comparing two cars with apparently an £8K price difference between them isn't helpful when the list price difference is only £600.ETA: Somewhat bizarrely, none of the S4 options mentioned (sports diff, adaptive suspension) can be found on Audi's configurator...
Edited by silentbrown on Saturday 15th February 11:17
Hairymonster said:
Skoda vRS 245bhp from mid to high £20k after discount.
The cars in this test would be hard-pushed to lose an enthusiastically driven vRS.
I don't know ... I had a VRS 230 with the LSD for two years, which I had remapped to 290bhp.The cars in this test would be hard-pushed to lose an enthusiastically driven vRS.
It wouldn't see which way my current 440i (with mppsk) went.
Dr G said:
A1VDY said:
Both goppingly ugly cars.
Whoever specified them needs shooting - red with chrome trim and white with bloody blue seats. Oh deary me.Press offices: paint your cars in colours people actually like, NOT replicating the result of a shart after eating too many skittles.
Those blue and black seats are rancid. The old coral seats would have looked nice.
I've been driving M series and Alpinas for the last 20 years.
Tried the new 3 series ( just a 330i ) recently. Nice car but the dashboard is a real mess. Maybe there was a way of configuring it to make it more "normal" but it reminded me of some 80's arcade game.
What were they thinking ?
You throw in that and the very odd bulbous front grills we often now get and you do wonder if something's just gone a bit wrong with the BMW style and taste department ( or whatever the marketing and design team are called ). It's like they're living in some sort of ivory tower, slightly divorced from reality and impervious to what their consumers actually want....
Tried the new 3 series ( just a 330i ) recently. Nice car but the dashboard is a real mess. Maybe there was a way of configuring it to make it more "normal" but it reminded me of some 80's arcade game.
What were they thinking ?
You throw in that and the very odd bulbous front grills we often now get and you do wonder if something's just gone a bit wrong with the BMW style and taste department ( or whatever the marketing and design team are called ). It's like they're living in some sort of ivory tower, slightly divorced from reality and impervious to what their consumers actually want....
Notsofastfrank said:
The thing that strikes me about both of these is the ridiculously high price. Maybe it's all about the monthly cost nowadays. I currently have a 335d touring and was thinking one of these would be its replacement, but based on these prices I won't be anywhere near paying £25k for a year-old one like I did for mine 2 years ago. To me these are overpriced, but then again the list on something like a Golf R or M135i is pushing £40k. Maybe I'm just getting old and out of touch.
Looks wise I think the S4 looks sharp, the 3 series looks reasonable apart from the grille which to my eyes is awful. I think I read the grille has active slats?
I’m with you on this, I too must be getting old as I think they are way overpriced. However I know I will be jumped all over by people saying ‘well if you look at an original ur quattro price, that would be the equivalent of £blah blah blah’. I appreciate that but to me it’s still too much, and the best way to buy is in 3yrs time for me.Looks wise I think the S4 looks sharp, the 3 series looks reasonable apart from the grille which to my eyes is awful. I think I read the grille has active slats?
Normally I’d have gone for the BMW in the above twin test but I actually like the Audi.
As others have said, current designs from both leave a lot to be desired, the rest of the BMW looks like a KIA or Toyota estate, and the interior is one of those ‘I don’t know what dosage of medication the designer was on but they should halve it’ looks.
A bit like the question ‘why do Japanese cars often have the wipes and indicators on the opposite position to European cars, why do manufacturers insist on having the manual shift on auto boxes configured differently? Surely it would be better for them all to have downshifts in one common direction and upshifts in the other?
cerb4.5lee said:
They are the ones that look like traditional analogue dials but they are digital instead aren't they? They do look really good to me for sure.
They are lovely.
I will be getting them installed on my pre LCI soon.
I'm not a big fan of the newest gauges but it wouldn't put me off buying a car with them attached!
Edited by xjay1337 on Saturday 15th February 12:54
xjay1337 said:
cerb4.5lee said:
They are the ones that look like traditional analogue dials but they are digital instead aren't they? They do look really good to me for sure.
They are lovely.
I will be getting them installed on my pre LCI soon.
I'm not a big fan of the newest gauges but it wouldn't put me off buying a car with them attached!
Edited by xjay1337 on Saturday 15th February 12:54
The physical buttons and idrive controller outweigh my dislike of the new digital dials. I could live with those dials and have the buttons etc instead of touchscreens.
Court_S said:
Dr G said:
A1VDY said:
Both goppingly ugly cars.
Whoever specified them needs shooting - red with chrome trim and white with bloody blue seats. Oh deary me.Press offices: paint your cars in colours people actually like, NOT replicating the result of a shart after eating too many skittles.
Those blue and black seats are rancid. The old coral seats would have looked nice.
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