Webuyanycar - next day payment fail

[wiliferus]

Kaktus said:

wiliferus said:

Remove the bit about reporting it as stolen. If you call the police and explain the circs they won’t be interested. It’s a civil debt all day long, so the part about small claims is accurate and entirely appropriate.

Hold on a minute. I sign a document to buy a vehicle in a dealership. I get in the car and drive out before I've actually paid them.

Is this a criminal offense of theft or is it a civil debt? I think it's criminal

Yes but that’s not the same. You agreed to give them your car for delayed payment.
Role reversal, you make a contract with the dealer to transfer the funds within 24hrs of collecting the car. You don’t pay. Unless it can be proved that you never had the intention to pay (then it’s fraud) otherwise it’s a civil debt.
In other words for this to even resemble a crime, you’d have to prove WBAC took possession of your car whilst having no intention of ever paying you for it, which is very very unlikely to be the case.

[thebullettrain]

bad company said:

I’ll be selling my 2017 BMW 540i in a couple of weeks. I have a part ex offer from the dealer and was thinking of a quote from WBAC. Having said that if they’re going to auction it why shouldn’t I just put it in myself?

Great car, what did the dealer offer compared to WBAC?

[LuS1fer]

I sold a motorbike to a company that operates in a similar way to WBAC. They arrived, inspected the bike, made a call and the money went straight into my account within 5 minutes, before they took the bike away.

[TonyF1]

I used WBAC to sell my A7 and got £2000 more than the trade in at Audi. Used Stroud branch and really friendly, professional and how they scored the car is transparent and in line with wear and tear lease standards.

Payment was a bit nervy in that I had no paperwork outside of a couple of SMS message and thought maybe a couple of guys ‘borrowed’ the WBAC portacabin in lockdown.

I suspect people who get price lowered are probably being a bit unrealistic on car condition. Would definitely recommend getting a valuation before going straight to trade in from the dealer. Even if just for leverage on price.

[AngryPartsBloke]

wiliferus said:

Kaktus said:

wiliferus said:

Remove the bit about reporting it as stolen. If you call the police and explain the circs they won’t be interested. It’s a civil debt all day long, so the part about small claims is accurate and entirely appropriate.

Hold on a minute. I sign a document to buy a vehicle in a dealership. I get in the car and drive out before I've actually paid them.

Is this a criminal offense of theft or is it a civil debt? I think it's criminal

Yes but that’s not the same. You agreed to give them your car for delayed payment.
Role reversal, you make a contract with the dealer to transfer the funds within 24hrs of collecting the car. You don’t pay. Unless it can be proved that you never had the intention to pay (then it’s fraud) otherwise it’s a civil debt.
In other words for this to even resemble a crime, you’d have to prove WBAC took possession of your car whilst having no intention of ever paying you for it, which is very very unlikely to be the case.

Theft is where one dishonestly appropriates property belonging to another with the intention of permanently depriving them of it.

An admin balls up at WBAC is not a criminal matter.

[roadsmash]

Let’s not turn this into a SP&L thread.

Keep complaining and you’ll receive your money. It’s just a cock-up, not worth worrying about.

Don’t call the police ffs!

[LosingGrip]

Kaktus said:

Hold on a minute. I sign a document to buy a vehicle in a dealership. I get in the car and drive out before I've actually paid them.

Is this a criminal offense of theft or is it a civil debt? I think it's criminal

What WeBuyAnyCar have done isn’t theft. Read the definition of https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1968/60/secti...

Could they have communicated better? Yes of course. But it’s not theft in anyway.

I’ll bet if you put that in your email they’ll just have a chuckle to themselves in the office.