Bad drivers and dash cams.
Discussion
I think dashcams used in the correct manner for nothing more than providing evidence of what occurred during an accident for insurance and where relevant police purposes is good.
That being said there are more and more negatives arising where some drivers with them are now either deliberately or "i am right and you are wrong" mentalities creating situations for nothing more than "look, look" what a bad driver (and this seems to be on the rise).
I will raise my hand and say yes I have one fitted, but honestly I rarely look at the footage for more than a few minutes, but most of my time is spent reformatting the sod every few months (I probably need a new card)
That being said there are more and more negatives arising where some drivers with them are now either deliberately or "i am right and you are wrong" mentalities creating situations for nothing more than "look, look" what a bad driver (and this seems to be on the rise).
I will raise my hand and say yes I have one fitted, but honestly I rarely look at the footage for more than a few minutes, but most of my time is spent reformatting the sod every few months (I probably need a new card)
Only noticed this once,
I was driving down a clear sited 40MPH road and had someone pull out in front of me, nothing behind me either. They were close enough I had to ease off the accelerator but not so close I had to brake, whatever.
Not much further on, someone did the same thing to this bloke in front, I again eased off, smiled thinking you deserved that. He visibly sped up to brake hard, hand on horn arms flailing.
That's when I spotted the dash cam.
I was driving down a clear sited 40MPH road and had someone pull out in front of me, nothing behind me either. They were close enough I had to ease off the accelerator but not so close I had to brake, whatever.
Not much further on, someone did the same thing to this bloke in front, I again eased off, smiled thinking you deserved that. He visibly sped up to brake hard, hand on horn arms flailing.
That's when I spotted the dash cam.
They're so common now that realistically you're probably noticing someone driving badly AND they have a dash cam. How many cars do you notice being driven well with a dash cam? Probably very few because you aren't really paying attention to them.
Mine isn't really visible the screen is switched off and its tucked up behind the rear view mirror and is only there in case I need it for insurance/witness purposes. Think I have only had to remove the card from it twice, once to check the recording quality once fitted and the other time to review some on track hero antics when at MSD Live this year.
Mine isn't really visible the screen is switched off and its tucked up behind the rear view mirror and is only there in case I need it for insurance/witness purposes. Think I have only had to remove the card from it twice, once to check the recording quality once fitted and the other time to review some on track hero antics when at MSD Live this year.
I notice the change within myself when stepping into a car with a dashcam compared to a car without, without you feel a bit more vulnerable without and have to drive a lot more cautiously and defensive, almost like driving without a seatbelt.
Yesterday I had a deliver a high value car through Croydon and it wasn't equipped with a dashcam so I kept on having to brake and yield to other cars even as I had the right of way which left me frustrated and emasculated.
I switched cars back to one with a dashcam and then could go back to normal and assert my right of way which came in useful as simply getting out of the car park I nearly crashed into a van which pulled out without looking and then less than a hundred meters down the road had some t
t in a minicab try and undertake through the lights and then push in which I didn't allow as I knew it was on dashcam.
Yesterday I had a deliver a high value car through Croydon and it wasn't equipped with a dashcam so I kept on having to brake and yield to other cars even as I had the right of way which left me frustrated and emasculated.
I switched cars back to one with a dashcam and then could go back to normal and assert my right of way which came in useful as simply getting out of the car park I nearly crashed into a van which pulled out without looking and then less than a hundred meters down the road had some t
t in a minicab try and undertake through the lights and then push in which I didn't allow as I knew it was on dashcam.untakenname said:
I notice the change within myself when stepping into a car with a dashcam compared to a car without, without you feel a bit more vulnerable without and have to drive a lot more cautiously and defensive, almost like driving without a seatbelt.
Yesterday I had a deliver a high value car through Croydon and it wasn't equipped with a dashcam so I kept on having to brake and yield to other cars even as I had the right of way which left me frustrated and emasculated.
I switched cars back to one with a dashcam and then could go back to normal and assert my right of way which came in useful as simply getting out of the car park I nearly crashed into a van which pulled out without looking and then less than a hundred meters down the road had some tt in a minicab try and undertake through the lights and then push in which I didn't allow as I knew it was on dashcam.
This has made me smile more than anything else so far on this wet and windy miserable Thursday morning. Yesterday I had a deliver a high value car through Croydon and it wasn't equipped with a dashcam so I kept on having to brake and yield to other cars even as I had the right of way which left me frustrated and emasculated.
I switched cars back to one with a dashcam and then could go back to normal and assert my right of way which came in useful as simply getting out of the car park I nearly crashed into a van which pulled out without looking and then less than a hundred meters down the road had some t
t in a minicab try and undertake through the lights and then push in which I didn't allow as I knew it was on dashcam.
untakenname said:
I switched cars back to one with a dashcam and then could go back to normal and assert my right of way which came in useful as simply getting out of the car park I nearly crashed into a van which pulled out without looking and then less than a hundred meters down the road had some tt in a minicab try and undertake through the lights and then push in which I didn't allow as I knew it was on dashcam.
Have you uploaded the footage to youtube yet?t in a minicab try and undertake through the lights and then push in which I didn't allow as I knew it was on dashcam.Riley Blue said:
untakenname said:
I notice the change within myself when stepping into a car with a dashcam compared to a car without, without you feel a bit more vulnerable without and have to drive a lot more cautiously and defensive, almost like driving without a seatbelt.
Yesterday I had a deliver a high value car through Croydon and it wasn't equipped with a dashcam so I kept on having to brake and yield to other cars even as I had the right of way which left me frustrated and emasculated.
I switched cars back to one with a dashcam and then could go back to normal and assert my right of way which came in useful as simply getting out of the car park I nearly crashed into a van which pulled out without looking and then less than a hundred meters down the road had some tt in a minicab try and undertake through the lights and then push in which I didn't allow as I knew it was on dashcam.
This has made me smile more than anything else so far on this wet and windy miserable Thursday morning. Yesterday I had a deliver a high value car through Croydon and it wasn't equipped with a dashcam so I kept on having to brake and yield to other cars even as I had the right of way which left me frustrated and emasculated.
I switched cars back to one with a dashcam and then could go back to normal and assert my right of way which came in useful as simply getting out of the car park I nearly crashed into a van which pulled out without looking and then less than a hundred meters down the road had some t
t in a minicab try and undertake through the lights and then push in which I didn't allow as I knew it was on dashcam.rev-erend said:
Seen plenty of 'L' plate bikers with helmet cams. Seems a silly thing to do as they have near zero experience and make to many stupid mistakes.
They also lack the experience (bikers' Spidey Sense) to identify and avoid the car drivers that will endanger them in the next five seconds, so after someone attempts to kill them and buggers off without realising they've done anything wrong, they can get the details to their insurance rather than repair their own bike at their own cost. I don't blame them at all for having helmet cameras.
In my experience, those with dashcams properly fitted i.e. tucked out of drivers line of sight, screen off and cables properly tucked won't be noticed, and probably drive like a normal, intelligent human being. They also tend to spend a bit more on a good quality camera that is less conspicuous or bulky, to make discreet fitment easier.
It's when I see a blatantly obvious bargain basement 'Nextbase' efforts, middle of the windscreen, no attempt to hide it, screen still blazing away (which is an offence in itself) and power cable hanging down (probably causing an obstruction to the gear lever/hand brake lever) that I expect erratic driving at best, positively dangerous driving at worst!
However, I still find the vast majority of lemons don't have anything fitted, be it in the windscreen or within the occupant's head....
It's when I see a blatantly obvious bargain basement 'Nextbase' efforts, middle of the windscreen, no attempt to hide it, screen still blazing away (which is an offence in itself) and power cable hanging down (probably causing an obstruction to the gear lever/hand brake lever) that I expect erratic driving at best, positively dangerous driving at worst!
However, I still find the vast majority of lemons don't have anything fitted, be it in the windscreen or within the occupant's head....
I've not noticed utterly awful driving from dash cammers but i do find them a little ironic at times.
As mentioned it's usually the ones who have it mounted right in the middle of the windscreen, ideal for getting obstructing their view and also lighting up the cabin when it's dark. What gets me with those types is that they've gone to an effort to protect themselves from others driving whilst not exactly being exemplary themselves. Not uncommon to see them dawdling along in lane 2 of the M4!
I will openly admit I have a dashcam, it's hard wired in and tucked right up behind the rear view mirror, it's on and I forget about it. I've captured a couple of amusing things but nothing overly interesting. That said it's there as a completely non-biased witness if I'm ever involved in an accident.
I did manage to capture an accident between two other vehicles, a hit and run. I managed to get photos and the registration of the car that did a runner so I hope that helped the other driver.
As mentioned it's usually the ones who have it mounted right in the middle of the windscreen, ideal for getting obstructing their view and also lighting up the cabin when it's dark. What gets me with those types is that they've gone to an effort to protect themselves from others driving whilst not exactly being exemplary themselves. Not uncommon to see them dawdling along in lane 2 of the M4!
I will openly admit I have a dashcam, it's hard wired in and tucked right up behind the rear view mirror, it's on and I forget about it. I've captured a couple of amusing things but nothing overly interesting. That said it's there as a completely non-biased witness if I'm ever involved in an accident.
I did manage to capture an accident between two other vehicles, a hit and run. I managed to get photos and the registration of the car that did a runner so I hope that helped the other driver.
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