Angry Passat Man...

[Sheepshanks]

OddCat said:

Ths issue is whether he had a right to be annoyed rather than how annoyed he actually was ? I suspect the answer to the first part is 'yes'.

The answer to the first part is 'no'.

[Miserablegit]

You did the only sensible thing
I have to do that in the Defender as it is a hard top and to see junctions clearly I have to approach at roughly 90degrees.
A lot of car drivers do not understand blind spots
Your options were to pull out blindly or position yourself as you did. Some might suggest that if Angry Passat man’s father had pulled out blindly the issue would not have arisen...

[ging84]

He's got a right to be as annoyed as he wants
maybe it even does him good to let it all out, or maybe he just makes himself more unhappy

I have to let it out sometimes, in the privacy of my car is one of the best places

[OddCat]

Sheepshanks said:

OddCat said:

Ths issue is whether he had a right to be annoyed rather than how annoyed he actually was ? I suspect the answer to the first part is 'yes'.

The answer to the first part is 'no'.

I wonder what the Highway Code say about that? Does it say " when driving a vehicle with poor visibility, at tricky junctions you are allowed to position yourself in a way that blocks oncoming traffic if necessary". If so that's fine.

[Miserablegit]

It certainly doesn’t say boot it and hope for
the best

[Alucidnation]

Surely if you stayed sort of parallel with the road, you could have used your left hand mirror instead of swinging out?

[Pesty]

OddCat said:

Sheepshanks said:

OddCat said:

Ths issue is whether he had a right to be annoyed rather than how annoyed he actually was ? I suspect the answer to the first part is 'yes'.

The answer to the first part is 'no'.

I wonder what the Highway Code say about that? Does it say " when driving a vehicle with poor visibility, at tricky junctions you are allowed to position yourself in a way that blocks oncoming traffic if necessary". If so that's fine.

Where does it say he blocked traffic?

[OddCat]

Pesty said:

Where does it say he blocked traffic?

Not sure if serious?

[Roboticarm]

Can't see anything wrong with that, you just timed it with a b3llend coming the other way who was probably just waiting for an excuse to vent his anger.
I was shouted at the other day by a man in a transit who shouted "for f sake put your foot down" as I turned off, the issue appeared to be that as I dared to drive at 30, in a 30 with speed bumps in the road with 2 kids and a dog in the car.
Ignore and move on

[Hungrymc]

OddCat said:

Sheepshanks said:

OddCat said:

Ths issue is whether he had a right to be annoyed rather than how annoyed he actually was ? I suspect the answer to the first part is 'yes'.

The answer to the first part is 'no'.

I wonder what the Highway Code say about that? Does it say " when driving a vehicle with poor visibility, at tricky junctions you are allowed to position yourself in a way that blocks oncoming traffic if necessary". If so that's fine.

It’s a messy one isn’t it. The op has a vehicle with restricted visibility, and that’s been made a problem for angry Passat man. I can see why Passat man wouldn’t want to get trapped in the main carriageway (doesn’t mean he’s right to go ape) or even made sit stationary in the mouth of the B-road waiting for other traffic to try and turn left maybe clattering into him.

However, OP hasn’t any choice in that junction and that vehicle as you simply can’t see unless you square the corner up.

Poor junction obviously. OP did all you can sensibly do with a junction like that (other than avoid it as high risk in your vehicle). But that also leaves angry man in an awkward position (and no point going mad)... Unfortunate set of circumstances.

[surveyor]

Alucidnation said:

Surely if you stayed sort of parallel with the road, you could have used your left hand mirror instead of swinging out?

I think to see anything useful, I'm still going to be blocking the entry lane, and with an even poorer idea of what is coming from behind, not least that I know have a blind spot to contend with.

[OddCat]

I wonder what Plod would say if, as he swung off the A road into the B road, the angry man had simply ploughed into the side of the OPs van rather than stopping. And angry mans dashcam clearly showed the OPs vehicle positioned in a way that was blocking his path. Just sayin'.

[Miserablegit]

Yes when I see an obstruction in the road I just drive into it as it must be their fault

[surveyor]

OddCat said:

I wonder what Plod would say if, as he swung off the A road into the B road, the angry man had simply ploughed into the side of the OPs van rather than stopping. And angry mans dashcam clearly showed the OPs vehicle positioned in a way that was blocking his path. Just sayin'.

Having done 75k in 2 years, I quite fancy a change. Bring it on. Just aim behind my door please.

[NiceCupOfTea]

I hired a van about 20 years ago to move house and came up to one of those oblique junctions and immediately realised I'd screwed up as I couldn't see to my left. Couldn't back up as somebody had pulled up behind me. So I got out, walked past the nose of the van, checked both ways, dashed back to the cab and booted it out of the junction

I think I prefer your way...

[njw1]

Alucidnation said:

Surely if you stayed sort of parallel with the road, you could have used your left hand mirror instead of swinging out?

The problem with doing that I find is that it's very hard to judge the speed of the oncoming traffic plus you have a much larger blind spot. It's much easier when you're actually looking at the traffic rather than a reflection of it.

[Pesty]

OddCat said:

Pesty said:

Where does it say he blocked traffic?

Not sure if serious?

Right back at you.

How to being squarer on to the line Instead of parallel with it mean he’s over it ?

One of us is misunderstanding it may well be me. But as somebody who exactly that on that same junction because straining to look over your shoulder isn’t the best without blocking anything in any way.
Unless the van has its ass into the next lane then yes I agree.

Op has my reading and comprehension failed did you block a lane?

[surveyor]

Pesty said:

OddCat said:

Pesty said:

Where does it say he blocked traffic?

Not sure if serious?

Right back at you.

How to being squarer on to the line Instead of parallel with it mean he’s over it ?

One of us is misunderstanding it may well be me. But as somebody who exactly that on that same junction because straining to look over your shoulder isn’t the best without blocking anything in any way.
Unless the van has its ass into the next lane then yes I agree.

Op has my reading and comprehension failed did you block a lane?

As he could not squeeze past me, I would say so.

[Pesty]

Then I change my mind and apologise to oddcat. I was picturing what I do.

Don’t block lanes I shall be going to Manchester tomorrow as I did yesterday. I shall look for your van and give you a stern look should our eyes meet.

Although getting so het up over that is not healthy and he probably needs to calm down. Don’t worry he will be having a heart attack soon so you win in the end.

[OddCat]

Miserablegit said:

Yes when I see an obstruction in the road I just drive into it as it must be their fault

I can't see a policeman saying that...