B a d g e S p a c i n g

B a d g e S p a c i n g

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rosetank

634 posts

50 months

Sunday 1st March 2020
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I really can’t see the issue? If you do not like the spacing you can;

1. Remove the letters
2. Replace them with letters of your choice
3. Ignore them


crofty1984

15,860 posts

204 months

Sunday 1st March 2020
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ajprice said:
Riley Blue said:
Matt Cup said:
ajprice said:
I think it's because the I isn't a full width letter, but the spacing/kerning on M A R T I N looks off.

Looks fine to me.
The A looks too far from the S to me.
Yes, the A spacing doesn't look right either. On MARTIN, the M A R looks more spaced out than the T I N .

Kerning 101, adjusting the space between letters depending on the shape of the letters. With equal spacing, W A looks more spaced out than E R .
Well I've learnt something today.

ajap1979

8,014 posts

187 months

Sunday 1st March 2020
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If there is one thing I never thought I’d read about on PH, it’s kerning! laugh

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 1st March 2020
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crofty1984 said:
ajprice said:
Riley Blue said:
Matt Cup said:
ajprice said:
I think it's because the I isn't a full width letter, but the spacing/kerning on M A R T I N looks off.

Looks fine to me.
The A looks too far from the S to me.
Yes, the A spacing doesn't look right either. On MARTIN, the M A R looks more spaced out than the T I N .

Kerning 101, adjusting the space between letters depending on the shape of the letters. With equal spacing, W A looks more spaced out than E R .
Well I've learnt something today.
I see the problem as the letters are not the same size if you draw a box around them

LooneyTunes

6,851 posts

158 months

Sunday 1st March 2020
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Alan535 said:
crofty1984 said:
ajprice said:
Riley Blue said:
Matt Cup said:
ajprice said:
I think it's because the I isn't a full width letter, but the spacing/kerning on M A R T I N looks off.

Looks fine to me.
The A looks too far from the S to me.
Yes, the A spacing doesn't look right either. On MARTIN, the M A R looks more spaced out than the T I N .

Kerning 101, adjusting the space between letters depending on the shape of the letters. With equal spacing, W A looks more spaced out than E R .
Well I've learnt something today.
I see the problem as the letters are not the same size if you draw a box around them
A problem that wouldn't exist if they'd stuck with the AM wings...

ajap1979

8,014 posts

187 months

Sunday 1st March 2020
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Alan535 said:
crofty1984 said:
ajprice said:
Riley Blue said:
Matt Cup said:
ajprice said:
I think it's because the I isn't a full width letter, but the spacing/kerning on M A R T I N looks off.

Looks fine to me.
The A looks too far from the S to me.
Yes, the A spacing doesn't look right either. On MARTIN, the M A R looks more spaced out than the T I N .

Kerning 101, adjusting the space between letters depending on the shape of the letters. With equal spacing, W A looks more spaced out than E R .
Well I've learnt something today.
I see the problem as the letters are not the same size if you draw a box around them
Unless it’s a monospaced font...

Biggest issue for me with Aston Martin is the inconsistency. The wordmark is tracked out on some cars, but not others. Got to be one or the other.

Mark V GTD

2,229 posts

124 months

Sunday 1st March 2020
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VW did it in 2017 too...

Thanks for the 'kerning' lesson - genuinely learned a new word!

can't remember

1,078 posts

128 months

Sunday 1st March 2020
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ReaperCushions said:
Do certain dealers still stick their brand on the back of cars these days (On the actual bodywork, not the back window).

I seem to remember Mangoletsi was a particular culprit.
I think there used to be a bit of cool about having a Mangoletsi sticker on your Alfa. Like having an old school BMW with a Sytner sticker.

Leptons

5,114 posts

176 months

Sunday 1st March 2020
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Matt Cup said:
It’s just not necessary though is it? The badge above it gives the game away when it comes to distinguishing what it is.

But as the other poster says about the Chinese market it kinda makes sense why manufacturers are going this way.
I thought that. Should say “continental” if anything.

Halmyre

11,203 posts

139 months

Monday 2nd March 2020
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ReaperCushions said:
Do certain dealers still stick their brand on the back of cars these days (On the actual bodywork, not the back window).

I seem to remember Mangoletsi was a particular culprit.
I remember Taggarts doing this some years ago. Much to the annoyance of some customers who'd forked out for a Jaguar XJ6 and found a cheap silvered plastic advertisement stuck on the boot lid. The practice was soon discontinued.

ajprice

27,490 posts

196 months

Monday 2nd March 2020
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ReaperCushions said:
Do certain dealers still stick their brand on the back of cars these days (On the actual bodywork, not the back window).

I seem to remember Mangoletsi was a particular culprit.
Sort of related, do Fords of Winsford still put the frosted/engraved looking logo in the back window of their cars? Apparently they were a git to remove, especially as they were over the top of the window heater elements.

Shakermaker

11,317 posts

100 months

Monday 2nd March 2020
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Dr Interceptor said:
On the flip side (and non-car related) there are some occasions where a bit of spacing would have been beneficial.

But that is from Grand Theft Auto, rather than real life

sxmwht

1,562 posts

59 months

Monday 2nd March 2020
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Hackney said:
Bought my Golf from Vindis in Bedford one of my questions was, “does it have the Vindis sticker on the back”. With some relief the answer was, “no, only in used cars”
I got my used GTI from Vindis, and told them I'll only pick it up if they take the stickers off. Guess what? They said "not a problem", and sure enough, all stickers were gone when I collected. Hardly a huge problem.

sxmwht

1,562 posts

59 months

Monday 2nd March 2020
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SmoothCriminal said:
Seat vw and skoda have all got that crappy lettering for the models now well the new ones have, first thing to do is debadge.

On the clubman name what else could mini do for the lettering the word hasn't got equal number of letters so one side is always going to be odd
Erm, how about not write it like a tt and just put it to the side?

sxmwht

1,562 posts

59 months

Monday 2nd March 2020
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ajprice said:
Yes, the A spacing doesn't look right either. On MARTIN, the M A R looks more spaced out than the T I N .

Kerning 101, adjusting the space between letters depending on the shape of the letters. With equal spacing, W A looks more spaced out than E R .
Love a good bit of keming, me!

Matt Cup

3,161 posts

104 months

Monday 2nd March 2020
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sxmwht said:
SmoothCriminal said:
Seat vw and skoda have all got that crappy lettering for the models now well the new ones have, first thing to do is debadge.

On the clubman name what else could mini do for the lettering the word hasn't got equal number of letters so one side is always going to be odd
Erm, how about not write it like a tt and just put it to the side?
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cylinderfin

95 posts

75 months

Wednesday 4th March 2020
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Triumph Man said:
Also annoys me that the brakelights for the Clubman are in the lower light clusters!
They still look better than the upper light clusters...

vincep99

3 posts

51 months

Wednesday 4th March 2020
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Reminds me of the Top Gear episodes where the doors spelled something obscene when shut but totally innocuous when open....

Dracoro

8,683 posts

245 months

Wednesday 4th March 2020
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vincep99 said:
Reminds me of the Top Gear episodes where the doors spelled something obscene when shut but totally innocuous when open....
Peniston oil biggrin

ajprice

27,490 posts

196 months

Wednesday 4th March 2020
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Dracoro said:
vincep99 said:
Reminds me of the Top Gear episodes where the doors spelled something obscene when shut but totally innocuous when open....
Peniston oil biggrin
Larsen's Biscuits biggrin