RE: The £10k Porsche Cayman | Spotted

RE: The £10k Porsche Cayman | Spotted

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CABC

5,593 posts

102 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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Mobrown said:
Ive always fancied one of these, is there much in it in real world driving between a 2.7 and 3.2S ?
not so much as some would have you believe. 2.7 is an excellent road car, great fun.
you don't win traffic light sprints but on the move it's a sports car.

Jamescrs

4,490 posts

66 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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I've been considering one of these for my next purchase as a weekend car, looking to buy in the next 12 months, I started off looking at a cheap Boxster, then moved onto the Caymen then started researching potential issues and came to the conclusion that the 987.2 Cayman S is the car I really want and the budget has crept slowly from 10k to 20k for the car I really want.

Boxsters of similar age spec etc are usually cheaper for whatever reason but as I currently own a convertible I'm very tempted to go back to a coupe next time as much fun as convertables are I feel a little too exposed which I suppose is an inevitable consequence

james_gt3rs

4,816 posts

192 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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Mobrown said:
Ive always fancied one of these, is there much in it in real world driving between a 2.7 and 3.2S ?
Assume you're talking about the Boxster as the Cayman was 3.4...?
3.2 had more midrange torque, but top end they didn't feel too different. But, the 3.2 still needs revs, under 4k it's will probably feel much slower than a Mini Cooper S etc. The other thing is they are pretty refined and long geared so won't feel as fast as they actually are.
Either way they're hardly slow

VladD

7,862 posts

266 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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Lotusgav said:
Bargain. Get it inspected buy it. I have a 987 Boxster and the long gears really aren’t a big deal.

Lovely thing to drive...
I have a 987 S (3.2), but it has a turbo and 375 bhp, so to me the gears feel a bit short. biggrin

phils65

3 posts

199 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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I had a 987.1 S with the parr turbo kit on it a few years back. Hadn’t been intending to buy a porsche as had my heart set on an slk55 but when it came up with the turbo kit, big brakes & a lsd for not much more than a standard car I couldn’t resist. I loved that car & boy did it shift.

What surprised me the most though was the things I liked about it that I hadnt been expecting - even though it was just a baby porsche there was a sense of occasion every time. It also felt very well screwed together, loved the whine of the six cylinder & the way it went through corners at speed just felt amazing - just so planted - hot hatches just dont come close...

cerb4.5lee

30,756 posts

181 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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phils65 said:
I had a 987.1 S with the parr turbo kit on it a few years back. Hadn’t been intending to buy a porsche as had my heart set on an slk55 but when it came up with the turbo kit, big brakes & a lsd for not much more than a standard car I couldn’t resist. I loved that car & boy did it shift.

What surprised me the most though was the things I liked about it that I hadnt been expecting - even though it was just a baby porsche there was a sense of occasion every time. It also felt very well screwed together, loved the whine of the six cylinder & the way it went through corners at speed just felt amazing - just so planted - hot hatches just dont come close...
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Porscheandrangerover

102 posts

54 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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These are great fun...interior needs tan leather

phils65

3 posts

199 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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cerb4.5lee said:
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Hahaha! It’s a fair cop. Have now doubled my contribution. Slippery slope!...

WCZ

10,542 posts

195 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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Filibuster said:
In the real world, I'd say the Polo will be the fastest on the road with average drivers in both.
I have a F56 Mini Cooper S (automatic!) and a manual 997.1 C2 and it always astonishes me how fast the Mini is.
Unless you really concentrate and are really on your toes, the Mini is faster in real day traffic..
no chance imo, the VW will be set up too soft. the fiesta st is more capable

2Btoo

3,429 posts

204 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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£10k Cayman? I bought mine for £9.7k last summer. A few more miles than the one in the ad (98,000) but fairly well cared for, excellent service history and some good options. (Yes, options. They make a difference. Mine? Full leather interior, Sports Chrono, heated sports seats, PASM, Xenon headlights). OK, it's needed some work done to it since I bought it but I'm practical so it has cost a lot less than £500 in parts and I had a pre-purchase inspection so went in with my eyes open.





broombroomcar said:
Its difficult to recommend the 2.7 when the 3.4 S exists because it's a car that can handle the power, however from a 'budget Porsche' point of view it's the one to go for to minimise risk.
Lots of reasons to recommend the 2.7 over the 3.4; MUCH lower incidence of bore scoring, cheaper road tax, lighter car (around 50Kg), better fuel consumption. Some people say it sounds better than the 3.4 as well. There is a difference between them on the road but the car is better then my driving skills so I'm not that fussed!

ETA: Can't make the pictures embed for some reason! Click on them to see them (unless someone can tell me what is broken in which case I'll fix it.) Thanks.

cerb4.5lee

30,756 posts

181 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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phils65 said:
cerb4.5lee said:
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Hahaha! It’s a fair cop. Have now doubled my contribution. Slippery slope!...
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T1547

1,100 posts

135 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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Great cars to drive, including the 2.7. Easily fast enough to have fun on the road and the engine is sweet being nice and revvy.

Budget couple of £k per year for servicing/repairs and should be fine. Can’t see them losing much value - I bought (now sold) an 07 2.7 with 45k miles in 2017 for £14k.

MichaelButler10589

6 posts

87 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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lotuslover69 said:
I had a Cayman S and the fear of IMS really does start to get to you after a while. A very costly repair that isn't worth the worry of ownership. Also bore scoring is very common on these and if it smokes on startup chances are there is some degree of scoring which is pretty much all of them. Sold mine a few years ago and checking database the car isn't road registered anymore so i hope the new owner simply changed the plates and didn't write it off or suffer IMS.
I had a Cayman (2.7) as a daily for a few years and it would occasionally puff a little white smoke on start up which quickly cleared - a specialist at the time told me that it's common behaviour on cold start if the last journey was a short one.

My 997 behaves in the same way after a short trip and had a clean borescope within the last 1000 miles

lotuslover69

269 posts

144 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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MichaelButler10589 said:
I had a Cayman (2.7) as a daily for a few years and it would occasionally puff a little white smoke on start up which quickly cleared - a specialist at the time told me that it's common behaviour on cold start if the last journey was a short one.

My 997 behaves in the same way after a short trip and had a clean borescope within the last 1000 miles
The smoke is due to burning oil on startup, a small amount is ok but if it is burning oil then obviously the oil is getting into the chamber somehow and typically due to running up a score in the bore. They mostly all do it though but bore scoring is that common in these cars.

Deep Thought

35,854 posts

198 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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Joey Deacon said:
The equivalent Boxster seems to be about a third cheaper, any reason to go for the Cayman over the Boxster?
Thats the dilemma for me any time i look at these.

Its hard to justify when you're getting more (the flexibility of open top motoring when you want it) for less money.



PistonBroker

2,422 posts

227 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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14 years on and that's still a respectable looking thing.

It'll have to be a Boxster for me - I miss putting the roof down on my NC MX5! - but it's good to see these becoming ever more attainable and great to read ownership experiences here.

LennyM1984

643 posts

69 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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2Btoo said:
£10k Cayman? I bought mine for £9.7k last summer. A few more miles than the one in the ad (98,000) but fairly well cared for, excellent service history and some good options
Likewise! I bought a Cayman last summer for £9.5k also with 98k on the clock and a few options I wanted (heated seats, sports steering wheel, Cayman S wheels and exhaust etc - no PASM or Spots Chrono though).

It's not my primary car (I think I've done about 2.5k miles) but so far it has cost me the princely sum of £3 for a new front driving light bulb and about £150 for a full service (DIY) using Millers 10w/50 with gearbox oil, aux belt, and plugs (Opie oils had a good deal at the time).

I've had Boxsters before and I genuinely think that the modest premium for the Cayman is worth it. The chassis feels that little bit tighter on the road and for whatever reason you get a greater sense of the mid-engine balance.

For ~£10k I think they are a bargain and those using a 0-62 time to deem a car "too slow" are probably missing the point of a sports car. "Fast" is how late you can brake, how much speed you can carry through a corner, how fast you can get back on the gas etc. 0-62mph doesn't tell you this

Edit: Obviously a 3.4 gives you "more fast" (better acceleration and better brakes) so the decision there is about risk vs reward. For me, I wasn't too bothered about straight line acceleration (brakes will be upgraded for track anyway) and so I went with the less risky 2.7 (although even then, it's a 13 year old car with 100k on the clock so things can/will fail... as they would on any other similarly aged car)





Edited by LennyM1984 on Thursday 27th February 16:00

deebs

555 posts

61 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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V8fan said:
deebs said:
Strange that this is on a 06 plate when the 2.7 wasnt launched til 07.
??? The 2.7 was available from July 2006.
Yeah it must have been because the one in the advert is registered as such. I can't recall seeing many when I was looking to buy a few years ago. Peter Morgan's 987s buyers guide says:

"2007 MY: 2.7-litre 245bhp Cayman launched."

https://www.porscheclubgb.com/regions-registers/re...

Anyways, good cars smile

Water Fairy

5,512 posts

156 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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LennyM1984

For ~£10k I think they are a bargain and those using a 0-62 time to deem a car "too slow" are probably missing the point of a sports car. "Fast" is how late you can brake, how much speed you can carry through a corner, how fast you can get back on the gas etc. 0-62mph doesn't tell you this

I totally agree. I'd take this philosophy to the next level, however, and go buy a sorted Elise instead. Yes it would cost more to buy but ultimately so much more rewarding in my experience.

Bro had a 986s and it was nice, sounded good and went well enough but felt heavy to me. My mates Elise S2 on a track day felt like a fag packet in contrast. Great fun.

Personally I'd be happy to live with the compromises an Elise brings over the Cayman but nonetheless 10k is a bargain for a great sportscar.

NNH

1,520 posts

133 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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sc0tt said:
jase_llan said:
It'd be interesting to see how these fare against modern small hot hatches - 245bhp and 1.3-1.4 tonnes means there could not be a lot in it between one of these and say, a MK7/8 Fiesta ST or Polo GTI?

Obviously this is going to be more of an 'experience' to drive and own, but nonetheless it'd be an interesting comparison.
It's an interesting point. Having gone from a Fiesta ST to a 3.2s boxster I much prefer the boxster but the fiesta was a very capable car. I think the lack of roof adds to the drama. We do have a polo GTi on order for the wife so will have a mixture of both. An ideal (whilst I'm not a millionaire) garage in my opinion.
Oddly enough I've changed from a Cayman 2.7 to a Mk7 Fiesta ST! At real-world speeds, the Fiesta's acceleration feels about the same, and changing down a gear seems almost optional compared to the Cayman.

I had the optional 6-speed box with PASM, which helped drop the ratios a little bit. Even so, the Cayman needed plenty of revs. A few years ago we drove across the Trasfagarasan Pass in Romania, and overtaking dawdling but boosty turbodiesels uphill needed a fair bit of planning and a decent run-up from the last hairpin.

For all that, it was an amazing car - my only car for almost 10 years, a great way to cross Europe, fun on the track, and easily roomy enough for a big supermarket run where people would sometimes watch as we loaded both boots.