RE: The £10k Porsche Cayman | Spotted
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I've been considering one of these for my next purchase as a weekend car, looking to buy in the next 12 months, I started off looking at a cheap Boxster, then moved onto the Caymen then started researching potential issues and came to the conclusion that the 987.2 Cayman S is the car I really want and the budget has crept slowly from 10k to 20k for the car I really want.
Boxsters of similar age spec etc are usually cheaper for whatever reason but as I currently own a convertible I'm very tempted to go back to a coupe next time as much fun as convertables are I feel a little too exposed which I suppose is an inevitable consequence
Boxsters of similar age spec etc are usually cheaper for whatever reason but as I currently own a convertible I'm very tempted to go back to a coupe next time as much fun as convertables are I feel a little too exposed which I suppose is an inevitable consequence
Mobrown said:
Ive always fancied one of these, is there much in it in real world driving between a 2.7 and 3.2S ?
Assume you're talking about the Boxster as the Cayman was 3.4...?3.2 had more midrange torque, but top end they didn't feel too different. But, the 3.2 still needs revs, under 4k it's will probably feel much slower than a Mini Cooper S etc. The other thing is they are pretty refined and long geared so won't feel as fast as they actually are.
Either way they're hardly slow
I had a 987.1 S with the parr turbo kit on it a few years back. Hadn’t been intending to buy a porsche as had my heart set on an slk55 but when it came up with the turbo kit, big brakes & a lsd for not much more than a standard car I couldn’t resist. I loved that car & boy did it shift.
What surprised me the most though was the things I liked about it that I hadnt been expecting - even though it was just a baby porsche there was a sense of occasion every time. It also felt very well screwed together, loved the whine of the six cylinder & the way it went through corners at speed just felt amazing - just so planted - hot hatches just dont come close...
What surprised me the most though was the things I liked about it that I hadnt been expecting - even though it was just a baby porsche there was a sense of occasion every time. It also felt very well screwed together, loved the whine of the six cylinder & the way it went through corners at speed just felt amazing - just so planted - hot hatches just dont come close...
phils65 said:
I had a 987.1 S with the parr turbo kit on it a few years back. Hadn’t been intending to buy a porsche as had my heart set on an slk55 but when it came up with the turbo kit, big brakes & a lsd for not much more than a standard car I couldn’t resist. I loved that car & boy did it shift.
What surprised me the most though was the things I liked about it that I hadnt been expecting - even though it was just a baby porsche there was a sense of occasion every time. It also felt very well screwed together, loved the whine of the six cylinder & the way it went through corners at speed just felt amazing - just so planted - hot hatches just dont come close...
Top class lurking! What surprised me the most though was the things I liked about it that I hadnt been expecting - even though it was just a baby porsche there was a sense of occasion every time. It also felt very well screwed together, loved the whine of the six cylinder & the way it went through corners at speed just felt amazing - just so planted - hot hatches just dont come close...
Filibuster said:
In the real world, I'd say the Polo will be the fastest on the road with average drivers in both.
I have a F56 Mini Cooper S (automatic!) and a manual 997.1 C2 and it always astonishes me how fast the Mini is.
Unless you really concentrate and are really on your toes, the Mini is faster in real day traffic..
no chance imo, the VW will be set up too soft. the fiesta st is more capable I have a F56 Mini Cooper S (automatic!) and a manual 997.1 C2 and it always astonishes me how fast the Mini is.
Unless you really concentrate and are really on your toes, the Mini is faster in real day traffic..
£10k Cayman? I bought mine for £9.7k last summer. A few more miles than the one in the ad (98,000) but fairly well cared for, excellent service history and some good options. (Yes, options. They make a difference. Mine? Full leather interior, Sports Chrono, heated sports seats, PASM, Xenon headlights). OK, it's needed some work done to it since I bought it but I'm practical so it has cost a lot less than £500 in parts and I had a pre-purchase inspection so went in with my eyes open.
ETA: Can't make the pictures embed for some reason! Click on them to see them (unless someone can tell me what is broken in which case I'll fix it.) Thanks.
broombroomcar said:
Its difficult to recommend the 2.7 when the 3.4 S exists because it's a car that can handle the power, however from a 'budget Porsche' point of view it's the one to go for to minimise risk.
Lots of reasons to recommend the 2.7 over the 3.4; MUCH lower incidence of bore scoring, cheaper road tax, lighter car (around 50Kg), better fuel consumption. Some people say it sounds better than the 3.4 as well. There is a difference between them on the road but the car is better then my driving skills so I'm not that fussed!ETA: Can't make the pictures embed for some reason! Click on them to see them (unless someone can tell me what is broken in which case I'll fix it.) Thanks.
Great cars to drive, including the 2.7. Easily fast enough to have fun on the road and the engine is sweet being nice and revvy.
Budget couple of £k per year for servicing/repairs and should be fine. Can’t see them losing much value - I bought (now sold) an 07 2.7 with 45k miles in 2017 for £14k.
Budget couple of £k per year for servicing/repairs and should be fine. Can’t see them losing much value - I bought (now sold) an 07 2.7 with 45k miles in 2017 for £14k.
lotuslover69 said:
I had a Cayman S and the fear of IMS really does start to get to you after a while. A very costly repair that isn't worth the worry of ownership. Also bore scoring is very common on these and if it smokes on startup chances are there is some degree of scoring which is pretty much all of them. Sold mine a few years ago and checking database the car isn't road registered anymore so i hope the new owner simply changed the plates and didn't write it off or suffer IMS.
I had a Cayman (2.7) as a daily for a few years and it would occasionally puff a little white smoke on start up which quickly cleared - a specialist at the time told me that it's common behaviour on cold start if the last journey was a short one.My 997 behaves in the same way after a short trip and had a clean borescope within the last 1000 miles
MichaelButler10589 said:
I had a Cayman (2.7) as a daily for a few years and it would occasionally puff a little white smoke on start up which quickly cleared - a specialist at the time told me that it's common behaviour on cold start if the last journey was a short one.
My 997 behaves in the same way after a short trip and had a clean borescope within the last 1000 miles
The smoke is due to burning oil on startup, a small amount is ok but if it is burning oil then obviously the oil is getting into the chamber somehow and typically due to running up a score in the bore. They mostly all do it though but bore scoring is that common in these cars.My 997 behaves in the same way after a short trip and had a clean borescope within the last 1000 miles
Joey Deacon said:
The equivalent Boxster seems to be about a third cheaper, any reason to go for the Cayman over the Boxster?
Thats the dilemma for me any time i look at these.Its hard to justify when you're getting more (the flexibility of open top motoring when you want it) for less money.
2Btoo said:
£10k Cayman? I bought mine for £9.7k last summer. A few more miles than the one in the ad (98,000) but fairly well cared for, excellent service history and some good options
Likewise! I bought a Cayman last summer for £9.5k also with 98k on the clock and a few options I wanted (heated seats, sports steering wheel, Cayman S wheels and exhaust etc - no PASM or Spots Chrono though).It's not my primary car (I think I've done about 2.5k miles) but so far it has cost me the princely sum of £3 for a new front driving light bulb and about £150 for a full service (DIY) using Millers 10w/50 with gearbox oil, aux belt, and plugs (Opie oils had a good deal at the time).
I've had Boxsters before and I genuinely think that the modest premium for the Cayman is worth it. The chassis feels that little bit tighter on the road and for whatever reason you get a greater sense of the mid-engine balance.
For ~£10k I think they are a bargain and those using a 0-62 time to deem a car "too slow" are probably missing the point of a sports car. "Fast" is how late you can brake, how much speed you can carry through a corner, how fast you can get back on the gas etc. 0-62mph doesn't tell you this
Edit: Obviously a 3.4 gives you "more fast" (better acceleration and better brakes) so the decision there is about risk vs reward. For me, I wasn't too bothered about straight line acceleration (brakes will be upgraded for track anyway) and so I went with the less risky 2.7 (although even then, it's a 13 year old car with 100k on the clock so things can/will fail... as they would on any other similarly aged car)
Edited by LennyM1984 on Thursday 27th February 16:00
V8fan said:
deebs said:
Strange that this is on a 06 plate when the 2.7 wasnt launched til 07.
??? The 2.7 was available from July 2006."2007 MY: 2.7-litre 245bhp Cayman launched."
https://www.porscheclubgb.com/regions-registers/re...
Anyways, good cars
LennyM1984
For ~£10k I think they are a bargain and those using a 0-62 time to deem a car "too slow" are probably missing the point of a sports car. "Fast" is how late you can brake, how much speed you can carry through a corner, how fast you can get back on the gas etc. 0-62mph doesn't tell you this
I totally agree. I'd take this philosophy to the next level, however, and go buy a sorted Elise instead. Yes it would cost more to buy but ultimately so much more rewarding in my experience.
Bro had a 986s and it was nice, sounded good and went well enough but felt heavy to me. My mates Elise S2 on a track day felt like a fag packet in contrast. Great fun.
Personally I'd be happy to live with the compromises an Elise brings over the Cayman but nonetheless 10k is a bargain for a great sportscar.
sc0tt said:
jase_llan said:
It'd be interesting to see how these fare against modern small hot hatches - 245bhp and 1.3-1.4 tonnes means there could not be a lot in it between one of these and say, a MK7/8 Fiesta ST or Polo GTI?
Obviously this is going to be more of an 'experience' to drive and own, but nonetheless it'd be an interesting comparison.
It's an interesting point. Having gone from a Fiesta ST to a 3.2s boxster I much prefer the boxster but the fiesta was a very capable car. I think the lack of roof adds to the drama. We do have a polo GTi on order for the wife so will have a mixture of both. An ideal (whilst I'm not a millionaire) garage in my opinion. Obviously this is going to be more of an 'experience' to drive and own, but nonetheless it'd be an interesting comparison.
I had the optional 6-speed box with PASM, which helped drop the ratios a little bit. Even so, the Cayman needed plenty of revs. A few years ago we drove across the Trasfagarasan Pass in Romania, and overtaking dawdling but boosty turbodiesels uphill needed a fair bit of planning and a decent run-up from the last hairpin.
For all that, it was an amazing car - my only car for almost 10 years, a great way to cross Europe, fun on the track, and easily roomy enough for a big supermarket run where people would sometimes watch as we loaded both boots.
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