Cancel Insurance or let it run out ?

Cancel Insurance or let it run out ?

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Gary C

12,494 posts

180 months

Saturday 29th February 2020
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Olas said:
Allow the insurance to run its course, and collect another year of NCB.

When you sold the car you wrote the date on the V5 - this is proof that you a renot liable for any claims after that date.

There *may* be a benefit to comparing the cost of two moths cover against the reduction in premium with 1 additional year of NCB
Dont be daft.

From the Duffy thing, this quote from a solicitor seems to get to the nub of the reason why

"Section 151 of the 1988 Road Traffic Act. It says, in summary, that if a policy of insurance exists for a vehicle then the policy, as a matter of law set by Parliament, covers any person who might be using that vehicle, with or without the authority of the insured. The insurance company must meet the costs of any claim.. (he) will be in breach of his contract of insurance and his insurers will be able to.. try to recover their costs"

You would be a fool to allow the insurance to run on a car you no longer own.

A learning point for me too.

Hashtaggggg

1,791 posts

70 months

Saturday 29th February 2020
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andyxxx said:
Hashtaggggg said:
That statement is not true.
read the whole thread
I have.

Some people were more critical of your comment!

timberman

1,284 posts

216 months

Saturday 29th February 2020
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matt2911 said:
timberman said:
So someone comes knocking on your door and says a car you previously owned was involved in an accident, and the new owner hasn't bothered to get insurance,
so even though it has nothing to do with you and clearly isn't any of your fault we've decided you should pay anyway.

And you'd be quite happy with this would you?

And just for clarification in case it wasn't clear from my post I think it quite possible this could happen and that the OP should cancel their insurance.


Edited by timberman on Saturday 29th February 09:08
But if the person has just left the insurance running it is to do with them. Doesn’t matter how happy they are or not really.
I was referring to in general, i.e would you be happy paying for someone else's mistakes

and it only has anything to do with them in as such that they have not cancelled their insurance and the other party's insurance company has an avenue to claim compensation.

It certainly wouldn't be their fault,
and had they cancelled the policy the other party wouldn't even be able to consider it an option.

matt2911

81 posts

53 months

Saturday 29th February 2020
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Hashtaggggg said:
I have.

Some people were more critical of your comment!
Mainly because he couldn’t have been more wrong!

timberman

1,284 posts

216 months

Saturday 29th February 2020
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JxJ Jr. said:
timberman said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
timberman said:
I would like to think that as long as it can be proven you no longer own the car or have any association with it and so couldn't have been involved in any incident then the claim would be rejected,
You'd like to think an insurance company would avoid their legal obligations? You're walking down the road minding your own business when a car mounts the pavement, hits you, and you're in a wheelchair for the rest of your days. The idiot driving the car didn't buy any insurance but as the previous owner's insurance is still in force, there is a policy in place covering tp liability. You are entitled to £3m compo for your life changing injuries. But you'd be happy for the insurer to ignore their legal obligation to pay you, because it's not fair on the previous owner whose premium might do up a few hundred quid for a couple of years and who could have cancelled his insurance but didn't bother????

I'm not sure I believe you.
So someone comes knocking on your door and says a car you previously owned was involved in an accident, and the new owner hasn't bothered to get insurance,
so even though it has nothing to do with you and clearly isn't any of your fault we've decided you should pay anyway.

And you'd be quite happy with this would you?

And just for clarification in case it wasn't clear from my post I think it quite possible this could happen and that the OP should cancel their insurance.
No one would be happy about it, but that's immaterial as it's a general term that's in most, if not all, policies and that you agree to. It's worded like e.g. this:

"If under the law of any country we must make a payment which we wouldn’t otherwise have to make, you must repay that amount to us."

Failing to inform the insurance company about selling a vehicle makes them liable for the 'wouldn't otherwise have to make' bit, and then they go knocking on your door.
yes,

which is why I suggested that the sensible option would be for the OP to cancel their policy.


Edited by timberman on Saturday 29th February 18:37

matt2911

81 posts

53 months

Saturday 29th February 2020
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timberman said:
I was referring to in general, i.e would you be happy paying for someone else's mistakes

and it only has anything to do with them in as such that they have not cancelled their insurance and the other party's insurance company has an avenue to claim compensation.

It certainly wouldn't be their fault,
and had they cancelled the policy the other party wouldn't even be able to consider it an option.
It would be their fault for not cancelling the insurance and as such I would have no sympathy.

I wouldn’t be stupid enough to not cancel the insurance so won’t have to pay for anyone else’s mistakes.

As for some of the idiots advising to keep it active... I despair.

We agree to cancel it. I hope OP has.

TwigtheWonderkid

43,427 posts

151 months

Saturday 29th February 2020
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Olas said:
When you sold the car you wrote the date on the V5 - this is proof that you a renot liable for any claims after that date.
Please can you expand on this, and explain how the date on the V5 gets the insurance company out of their mandated obligations to a third party under the R.T.A?

timberman

1,284 posts

216 months

Saturday 29th February 2020
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matt2911 said:
timberman said:
I was referring to in general, i.e would you be happy paying for someone else's mistakes

and it only has anything to do with them in as such that they have not cancelled their insurance and the other party's insurance company has an avenue to claim compensation.

It certainly wouldn't be their fault,
and had they cancelled the policy the other party wouldn't even be able to consider it an option.
It would be their fault for not cancelling the insurance and as such I would have no sympathy.

I wouldn’t be stupid enough to not cancel the insurance so won’t have to pay for anyone else’s mistakes.

As for some of the idiots advising to keep it active... I despair.

We agree to cancel it. I hope OP has.
I don't for one minute believe you think someone who sells a car and forgets to cancel their insurance policy is to blame if the car is involved in an accident and the new owner hasn't bothered to buy their own insurance.



matt2911

81 posts

53 months

Saturday 29th February 2020
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timberman said:
I don't for one minute believe you think someone who sells a car and forgets to cancel their insurance policy is to blame if the car is involved in an accident and the new owner hasn't bothered to buy their own insurance.
They are to blame for being liable yes.

waynecyclist

8,859 posts

115 months

Saturday 29th February 2020
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Just cancel the policy or inform them you have sold it and let the policy lapse

timberman

1,284 posts

216 months

Saturday 29th February 2020
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matt2911 said:
timberman said:
I don't for one minute believe you think someone who sells a car and forgets to cancel their insurance policy is to blame if the car is involved in an accident and the new owner hasn't bothered to buy their own insurance.
They are to blame for being liable yes.
That much I agree with smile

PorkInsider

5,892 posts

142 months

Saturday 29th February 2020
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
Olas said:
When you sold the car you wrote the date on the V5 - this is proof that you a renot liable for any claims after that date.
Please can you expand on this, and explain how the date on the V5 gets the insurance company out of their mandated obligations to a third party under the R.T.A?
I'm looking forward to the explanation, too. We may be waiting while...

Roaringopenfire

199 posts

102 months

Sunday 1st March 2020
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I had the same thing last month. The risk is if the new owner makes a claim then you may be brought into the claim as a named insurer, whether you own the vehicle or not. Safest just to pay to cancel and consider it a cost of changing your car.

barbs0007

Original Poster:

3 posts

51 months

Monday 2nd March 2020
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I have contacted my previous insurance and cancelled the policy. The request for cancellation form stated a payment requirement of £30 which has yet to come out of my account as they have not asked for my bank details ? ... and they have sent me my 'no claims discount' form (maybe because i had it protected anyways ?) and closed the policy.

Quite a topic of conversation it seems. I felt pulled both ways with this... to cancel or let it run. But the force of doing the right thing, and sleeping at night made my mind up to cancel the policy.

Thanks guys for all your help, I hope not to cancel a policy in the future, but i will be well armed with info if i do smile