Will Coronavirus hit used car prices?

Will Coronavirus hit used car prices?

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Johnnybee

2,288 posts

222 months

Tuesday 24th March 2020
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Touring442

3,096 posts

210 months

Tuesday 24th March 2020
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So said:
Touring442 said:
Fezzaman said:
it will be interesting to see how Sytner go about their 'buy cars online' model.
They've dumped 2000 cars at auction, no reserve. Their overheads are incredible.
Is this vanilla stock or premium too?
I've no idea, sorry.

Auto810graphy

1,405 posts

93 months

Tuesday 24th March 2020
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Touring442 said:
They've dumped 2000 cars at auction, no reserve. Their overheads are incredible.
Are you sure? Auctions are shut and not the logistics would not be cost effective.

CRA1G

6,547 posts

196 months

Tuesday 24th March 2020
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Auto810graphy said:
Touring442 said:
They've dumped 2000 cars at auction, no reserve. Their overheads are incredible.
Are you sure? Auctions are shut and not the logistics would not be cost effective.
That doesn't ring true.... I don't think BCA would except any 3rd party vehicles now anyway,there over flowing with their own WBAC stock and they've closed all sites now including online auctions and I'm sure Sytners wouldn't put stock in without reserves......

Olivergt

1,343 posts

82 months

Tuesday 24th March 2020
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CRA1G said:
Auto810graphy said:
Touring442 said:
They've dumped 2000 cars at auction, no reserve. Their overheads are incredible.
Are you sure? Auctions are shut and not the logistics would not be cost effective.
That doesn't ring true.... I don't think BCA would except any 3rd party vehicles now anyway,there over flowing with their own WBAC stock and they've closed all sites now including online auctions and I'm sure Sytners wouldn't put stock in without reserves......
Is it more likely that they have moved them all to a secure location? The last thing you need is 50 premium cars sitting outside a showroom that is closed for weeks.


av185

18,514 posts

128 months

Tuesday 24th March 2020
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Touring442 said:
Fezzaman said:
it will be interesting to see how Sytner go about their 'buy cars online' model.
They've dumped 2000 cars at auction, no reserve. Their overheads are incredible.
scratchchin

Custard/link.

V8RX7

26,912 posts

264 months

Tuesday 24th March 2020
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Pommy said:
V8RX7 said:
Pommy said:
Those who have been so opposed to PCP and only buy cash are looking a bit fked now - they have an asset dropping like a stone that they cant get out of and costing them massively more than a loss limiting PCP/finance arrangement.
laughlaughlaugh

As everything I own is bought, not on any finance.

Remind me how I'm in trouble as I haven't got any bills to pay ?
Wouldn’t you rather have cash available rather than tied up in a car?

Maybe, maybe not but there will come a point this ends and you’re left with an asset that has cost you a lot more than if you simply financed its cost for a limited period with certain total outlay.

My point is more pointed at some of the recent PCP threads where there were vehement ‘PCP arrangements are bad’ points made are clearly affected by a substantial downturn in car values as ultimately your losses are limited whereas owning something outright is a much bigger financial impact.
I have enough cash available to not work for several years, cars / toys can always be sold too.

You are making big assumptions there - I've owned my MX5 that cost me £3500 almost 20 years - what would it have cost on PCP ?

Ah - you didn't state that in the OP and again it depends on what their situation is - however as the current situation shows - life isn't certain, bad things happen, it's best to have a rainy day fund however you wish to configure it.


monzaxjr

549 posts

147 months

Tuesday 24th March 2020
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Nice offer from this classic car dealer. Pay full price of £15350 and he'll store the car for you for three months FOC. laughrolleyes Lucky if the car is worth £8k as it's pretty rough.

https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C1215893

Touring442

3,096 posts

210 months

Tuesday 24th March 2020
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It's worth a cup of cold piss at the moment.

What a clown. laugh

Jibaro

210 posts

182 months

Tuesday 24th March 2020
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that looks like a safe place for £15k of your readies until this virus malarkey blows over rofl

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 25th March 2020
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Pommy said:
Wouldn’t you rather have cash available rather than tied up in a car? Maybe, maybe not but there will come a point this ends and you’re left with an asset that has cost you a lot more than if you simply financed its cost for a limited period with certain total outlay.

My point is more pointed at some of the recent PCP threads where there were vehement ‘PCP arrangements are bad’ points made are clearly affected by a substantial downturn in car values as ultimately your losses are limited whereas owning something outright is a much bigger financial impact.

I’m not generally pro or anti PCP nor am I pro or anti Cash, depends on the persons circumstances, but for me, I’d rather keep as much money in the bank to have freedom to deal with the uncertainty ahead than £’000’s locked up without the flexibility.
Quite a lot of us on here have our cars as a hobby, not just as a white good. Buying outright allows us to do what we want with them. My car is used mainly as my road car, but i also use it to compete in sprints and have changed the spec massively, something you can't do with a car you don't own.

I bought my current car Jan 2009 when the market fell on its arse, pre this CV it was worth £8K more than i paid for it after putting 100K miles on it.

As i paid cash for it, i don't have to sell it and have no payments going out, so i can continue to use it for the shopping run, even though i am now sat on my arse at home with 80% income.

If i was on a PCP type deal with my outgoings maxed out at normal pay and no savings i'd be crapping myself.

Pommy

14,268 posts

217 months

Wednesday 25th March 2020
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jsf said:
Pommy said:
Wouldn’t you rather have cash available rather than tied up in a car? Maybe, maybe not but there will come a point this ends and you’re left with an asset that has cost you a lot more than if you simply financed its cost for a limited period with certain total outlay.

My point is more pointed at some of the recent PCP threads where there were vehement ‘PCP arrangements are bad’ points made are clearly affected by a substantial downturn in car values as ultimately your losses are limited whereas owning something outright is a much bigger financial impact.

I’m not generally pro or anti PCP nor am I pro or anti Cash, depends on the persons circumstances, but for me, I’d rather keep as much money in the bank to have freedom to deal with the uncertainty ahead than £’000’s locked up without the flexibility.
Quite a lot of us on here have our cars as a hobby, not just as a white good. Buying outright allows us to do what we want with them. My car is used mainly as my road car, but i also use it to compete in sprints and have changed the spec massively, something you can't do with a car you don't own.

I bought my current car Jan 2009 when the market fell on its arse, pre this CV it was worth £8K more than i paid for it after putting 100K miles on it.

As i paid cash for it, i don't have to sell it and have no payments going out, so i can continue to use it for the shopping run, even though i am now sat on my arse at home with 80% income.

If i was on a PCP type deal with my outgoings maxed out at normal pay and no savings i'd be crapping myself.
I wouldn't disagree in any way with the point you are making. My point doesnt align with your point.


Liamst

165 posts

116 months

Wednesday 25th March 2020
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Has anyone noticed interest rates on used cars dropping?
A few independent car sales and brokers online are now quoting cars at 4.9% where as this was 6.9% just last month.
I wonder if BMW can do 4.9% now on used when previously capped at 6.9% 🤔

Durzel

12,278 posts

169 months

Wednesday 25th March 2020
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Well interest rates have been cut twice, that might have something to do with it smile

Trustmeimadoctor

12,637 posts

156 months

Wednesday 25th March 2020
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But loan rates have gone up

So

26,346 posts

223 months

Wednesday 25th March 2020
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Trustmeimadoctor said:
But loan rates have gone up
Yes it seems so, We got an asset finance quote 10 days ago at a good rate and anticipated a better rate a week later. But rates rose.

Trustmeimadoctor

12,637 posts

156 months

Wednesday 25th March 2020
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Its a difference between unsecured and secured finance least with a car loan they can repo the car smile

GT3Manthey

4,525 posts

50 months

Wednesday 25th March 2020
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I think if you are tempted to dip your toe in stuff the "will it or wont it holds its money" as those days are pretty much gone just buy what you want and get ready to drive it.

Hell, we could all be wiped out soon !

Deep Thought

35,854 posts

198 months

Wednesday 25th March 2020
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GT3Manthey said:
I think if you are tempted to dip your toe in stuff the "will it or wont it holds its money" as those days are pretty much gone just buy what you want and get ready to drive it.

Hell, we could all be wiped out soon !
I think theres a very real chance that a purchase now - that chances are you wont be able to drive anyway due to the lockdown - will be worth 30% less in 6 months time.

If somone needs to buy a car now, then bite the bullet, but i cant see any compelling reason to otherwise do so.

av185

18,514 posts

128 months

Wednesday 25th March 2020
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Largely depends on the age of the car.

The newer and more oversupplied less popular the car the bigger the drop ££.
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