Coronavirus = empty roads

Coronavirus = empty roads

Author
Discussion

swisstoni

9,586 posts

237 months

Saturday 28th March
quotequote all
sharepointalex said:
Just dropping this one here (hoping it doesn’t spark some angry responses.) - https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.independent.co....

National police chiefs council have said it is not illegal to drive somewhere, even more than once a day to carry out exercise.

Interestingly if you read the actually government regulations, it’s not limited to only one form of exercise a day either..

Clearly hasn’t been well communicated to each police force that’s for sure.

I’m not saying we should all go out and do this, I just thought it was an interesting read.
The govt instructions are mind numbingly clear.


RogueTrooper

861 posts

129 months

Saturday 28th March
quotequote all
Teddy Lop said:
I'm talking frustratingly slow - 20 in 30, 30ish on safe NSL A/B roads - I know we should all try to take a bit more care for obvious reasons and I'm down with that but this is just moronic.
Just the opposite from what I've seen - a higher-than-usual number seemingly exceeding the speed limit and also quite a few drivers who appear not to be bothering with seatbelts either.

Paul-427

54 posts

44 months

Saturday 28th March
quotequote all
smartypants said:
We’d benefit hugely from a population cull of 60 and above,
You obnoxious little piece of st ! That is the most vile comment I have seen on Pistonheads.

Your parents and grandparents must be so proud that you would like to see them die in such distress.

Sheepshanks

21,575 posts

77 months

Saturday 28th March
quotequote all
RogueTrooper said:
Teddy Lop said:
I'm talking frustratingly slow - 20 in 30, 30ish on safe NSL A/B roads - I know we should all try to take a bit more care for obvious reasons and I'm down with that but this is just moronic.
Just the opposite from what I've seen - a higher-than-usual number seemingly exceeding the speed limit and also quite a few drivers who appear not to be bothering with seatbelts either.
I did a drive that I normally do regularly along B and unclassified roads and, not sure why, perhaps lack of usual time pressure, but I found myself taking it very easy.

Something else for the “press on” brigade to watch for - saw quite a number of people out walking / running, normally it’s rare to see anyone on foot. It was just incredible how often I met these people on bends at the same time as another car was coming towards me. Please be careful.

Edited by Sheepshanks on Saturday 28th March 09:46

rosetank

634 posts

8 months

Saturday 28th March
quotequote all
smartypants said:
No it’s not about the numbers that die, it’s the amount of people being ill at the same time. We’d benefit hugely from a population cull of 60 and above, but them all being in NHS care at the same time fks us up royally.

That is the issue. And is what driving the current measures.
You, are a vile individual.

No place for people like you in our society to be quite frank, even less so on a motoring forum.

DonkeyApple

38,650 posts

127 months

Saturday 28th March
quotequote all
swisstoni said:
sharepointalex said:
Just dropping this one here (hoping it doesn’t spark some angry responses.) - https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.independent.co....

National police chiefs council have said it is not illegal to drive somewhere, even more than once a day to carry out exercise.

Interestingly if you read the actually government regulations, it’s not limited to only one form of exercise a day either..

Clearly hasn’t been well communicated to each police force that’s for sure.

I’m not saying we should all go out and do this, I just thought it was an interesting read.
The govt instructions are mind numbingly clear.
It is bizarre. But at least it shows the Police are equal opportunity employers and have a good balance of ‘thick as mince’ at the top as well as the bottom.

But just look at any work environment you e ever been involved in, sometimes it just doesn’t matter how clear the instruction is or how intelligent the recipients are there is always a number who bafflingly interpret the instructions differently to the majority.

Anyway, I think most people are leaving the roads free for those who need them and deliberately reducing their risk of causing additional woes for their family and the emergency services.

And as much as I may think the people driving up past my house with bikes on the roof of their cars might be selfish dicks or maybe just a bit thick I suspect that it doesn’t really matter so long as the vast majority are being intelligent and caring of others.

The roads outside my home are pretty empty and they are fantastic driving roads at the best of times. On my driveway and in the barn are cars build for hooning and I love a hoon but they haven’t moved in weeks. For me going out and making a noise and having fun when the country is going what it is going through is like making a phone call in the middle of a funeral service. Just unbelievably rude, selfish and depressingly obnoxious.

Edited by DonkeyApple on Saturday 28th March 09:51

davej11

1 posts

93 months

Saturday 28th March
quotequote all
Once again the selfishness of the (minority) British public does not fail to amaze me. What part of non essential trips do people not get? Going for a drive in your car or motorbike is not essential! Again people think it's one rule for them and a different rule set applies to everyone else. There is a reason many roads are quiet and that's because the majority are following the governments advice. Give your head a shake of you don't think the advice applies to you!

sparta6

2,234 posts

58 months

Saturday 28th March
quotequote all
For those who are struggling


Thesprucegoose

24,778 posts

153 months

Saturday 28th March
quotequote all
i have a phone foe sale. Some gut interested, but driving from leeds over 100 miles way, ive said no, that is taking the piss.

DonkeyApple

38,650 posts

127 months

Saturday 28th March
quotequote all
Thesprucegoose said:
i have a phone foe sale. Some gut interested, but driving from leeds over 100 miles way, ive said no, that is taking the piss.
If you ensured it was a one way trip you would quite possibly be doing society and the health services a huge favour though.

nickfrog

12,634 posts

175 months

Saturday 28th March
quotequote all
rosetank said:
smartypants said:
No it’s not about the numbers that die, it’s the amount of people being ill at the same time. We’d benefit hugely from a population cull of 60 and above, but them all being in NHS care at the same time fks us up royally.

That is the issue. And is what driving the current measures.
You, are a vile individual.
Indeed. He calls himself smart and keeps telling us about others being stupid. Sounds like a classic projection to me based on his limited IQ and even lower EQ. Add a massive chip on his shoulder and you do have a recipe for a total moron.

smartypants

47,208 posts

127 months

Saturday 28th March
quotequote all
It was a response in context to the discussion. But you take it to mean whatever you want. Of course it’s not what I want to happen, but financially and for infrastructure it’s not a false statement.



Riley Blue

17,025 posts

184 months

Saturday 28th March
quotequote all
smartypants said:
It was a response in context to the discussion. But you take it to mean whatever you want. Of course it’s not what I want to happen, but financially and for infrastructure it’s not a false statement.
That maybe so but it's not helping to voice it when everyone is struggling to do the right thing in this unprecedented situation.

smartypants

47,208 posts

127 months

Saturday 28th March
quotequote all
Riley Blue said:
That maybe so but it's not helping to voice it when everyone is struggling to do the right thing in this unprecedented situation.
That was exactly my point though, people are not doing enough in this current situation. The amount of people still going out and about daily is crazy. Just sit indoors! Perhaps I structured that particularly point a bit insensitively and I apologise for that.


Drl22

417 posts

23 months

Saturday 28th March
quotequote all
This website and thread is beginning to read like Facebook. Full of repeated assertions and dim witted comments. It a shame.

sparkyhx

3,493 posts

162 months

Saturday 28th March
quotequote all
sparta6 said:
For those who are struggling

But that's NOT what we are being asked to do.

There are hundreds of thousands (if not millions) working - most for obvious reasons, but some not so obvious - that's a risk
We are allowed to go for a 'walk' - why? its not essential! - that's a risk?
If we go outside in the countryside that's a different level of risk to doing it in a city center - yet people in city centres are allowed to do far riskier activity than people in the countryside its not essential - so stop it..
We don't want to put others at risk - agreed - so are we all sat at home lying flat on the bed? No anything other than that is none essential, if I climb a ladder, stand on a chair, walk up and down stairs, change a bulb, make a cup of tea, cook.

All these activities and many more besides have the potential to draw in others and are statistically more risky than having a drive.

There is no logic to 'advising' stopping some things in comparison with others, pointing out the illogical and arbitrary nonsense in thinking is NOT a crime.

Maintaining social distancing is essential, I don't think anyone is arguing against that, but to turn round and say the ONLY way of doing that is to stay at home (whilst being allowed to do non essential exercise and non essential walk the dog etc) is silly and illogical, totally ban all movement for none essential workers, that is the only thing to makes sense.

Paul-427

54 posts

44 months

Saturday 28th March
quotequote all
smartypants said:
Perhaps I structured that particularly point a bit insensitively and I apologise for that.
Apology accepted. But, as written, it was very offensive.

In France, Spain and Italy, there is a total ban on movement except for essential stuff and tight control on "exercise" movement outside your home. I live in France and still hear about people who misconstrue the rules and feel they can go out for other reasons. And this is where the rules are quite clear and a form is needed.

The UK rules all seem much more vague and even the Police advise is contrary. frown

smartypants

47,208 posts

127 months

Saturday 28th March
quotequote all
Paul-427 said:
Apology accepted. But, as written, it was very offensive.

In France, Spain and Italy, there is a total ban on movement except for essential stuff and tight control on "exercise" movement outside your home. I live in France and still hear about people who misconstrue the rules and feel they can go out for other reasons. And this is where the rules are quite clear and a form is needed.

The UK rules all seem much more vague and even the Police advise is contrary. frown
Thanks I didn't mean to offend anyone at all. Sincere apologies.

Unfortunately I think we'll end up going this way here frown

CSLchappie

392 posts

162 months

Saturday 28th March
quotequote all
My house overlooks a crossroads on a sort of unofficial cross country time-trial route through the south notts villages. While WFH all week I've seen and heard plenty of exotica out for a blat, way more than we usually hear at the weekends, some driven sensibly, some like absolute tits including an M2 & M4 pairing that I've seen multiple times.

I've had my knuckles wrapped this morning by the police as we take our dogs over the next village to walk them (many reasons why which I won't explain here) fair play, thems the rules at the moment but it sounds like fines will be the norm from next week if you haven't got one of the qualifying reasons to be going out.

roygarth

2,668 posts

206 months

Saturday 28th March
quotequote all
Superleg48 said:
All of the arguments being raised about risk comparisons, whilst valid are missing the fundamental point. The instruction, not advice, is to stay at home unless essential to leave. It is not essential to drive for a jolly it is not essential to cycle 100 or 200 miles, it is not essential to run 5 or 10k. Exercise is allowed, but the intention of that advice is you start from home and return to home ( not drive somewhere first). Just go for a walk once a day for a couple of weeks. You can do that wherever you live and still manage the 2m social distancing advice, be it city, town or countryside.
This is it and it is really the end of the discussion vis a vis going out for a drive.