RE: MOTs given automatic six-month extension
Discussion
TurnedEmo said:
Very frustrating as I'll be in a mad rush with lots of other people once the restrictions are lifted, right when I need to be out on the road visiting potential new customers.
It doesn't need to be frustrating.You know precisely when the current certificate expires which allows plenty of time to get a test pre-booked.
SS2. said:
TurnedEmo said:
Very frustrating as I'll be in a mad rush with lots of other people once the restrictions are lifted, right when I need to be out on the road visiting potential new customers.
It doesn't need to be frustrating.You know precisely when the current certificate expires which allows plenty of time to get a test pre-booked.
MrGTI6 said:
I bought a low-mileage Rover 75 2.0 V6 just before the lockdown as an MOT failure for £150. It failed its MOT on emissions on 17th March, but the existing MOT ran until 1st April. Surprisingly, the expiry date has since been extended to 1st October, despite the most recent MOT being a failure.
Should get some cheap motoring out of it as a result!
Interesting to hear this. I frequently read 'advice' that if a car fails its MoT test, any remaining MoT is null and void, which is wrong. DVSA (VOSA have not existed since 2014) obviously regard any remaining previous MoT as valid whether the vehicle has failed a test or not!Should get some cheap motoring out of it as a result!
May have been different if it had failed and been given a 'dangerous' tag but you now have until October to get a new MoT.
popegregory said:
Sorry if this has been covered. Mine are due in May. If I delay them by, say, 3 months, do I then have a 12 month ticket from August or a 9 month ticket which is due again in May 2021?
You will currently get a 6 month extension from when the MOT is due. When you have the MOT carried out you will get 12 months from that date.Mort7 said:
popegregory said:
Sorry if this has been covered. Mine are due in May. If I delay them by, say, 3 months, do I then have a 12 month ticket from August or a 9 month ticket which is due again in May 2021?
You will currently get a 6 month extension from when the MOT is due. When you have the MOT carried out you will get 12 months from that date.If I were people thinking oh I can leave my car 6 months for a mot I would get it done now if possible many garages are open and one they would love to have a bit of trade atm.
2 when the government ends this if in a few months time all the backlog of mot over the next 6 months etc will land at the same time mot are due for cars due in September/October/November which is generally the busiest time for mot testers along with march/april/may and june.
There is infact a huge shortage of mot testers and most garages are booked up for 2-4 weeks with mots also you still have to make sure your car is roadworthy if stopped and caught you be in big trouble.
To save a few quid now is not really worth it and suspect the government will end this when the lockdown measures are restricted.
2 when the government ends this if in a few months time all the backlog of mot over the next 6 months etc will land at the same time mot are due for cars due in September/October/November which is generally the busiest time for mot testers along with march/april/may and june.
There is infact a huge shortage of mot testers and most garages are booked up for 2-4 weeks with mots also you still have to make sure your car is roadworthy if stopped and caught you be in big trouble.
To save a few quid now is not really worth it and suspect the government will end this when the lockdown measures are restricted.
2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:
PistonAFC said:
Mine's due in June and it is still showing the original expiry date in June. What do they show the extended date on the on-line checker?
About a week before apparently.
https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-tax
stoop44rio said:
Do you have to apply for a new MOT date as normal to recieve your extension? My was up yesterday (10th) but now showing today as mot run out?
I was under the impression it was automatic as I read somewhere that MOT fees were being refunded.
I believe the system updates on Tuesdays but you will get an extension. I was under the impression it was automatic as I read somewhere that MOT fees were being refunded.
What MOT fees are being refunded? you pay on the day!
MG CHRIS said:
To save a few quid now is not really worth it and suspect the government will end this when the lockdown measures are restricted.
If the MOT was purely a road worthiness safety test I'd agree with you. However, it's not about saving a few quid, is it? MOT failures are sometimes given out for completely non-safety reasons and sometimes subjective points on whether or not something is worn out or not, regardless of safety (ball joints, for instance - they check play and give their opinion, they don't measure that play like you might with a tyre's tread depth)
Given that for the last year or two an MOT failure now prohibits using the car for any purpose apart from repairs and retest, and that there would be difficulty in getting repairs that may not actually be required to keep the car roadworthy, I wouldn't be rushing out to get a test when it's not mandatory.
So it's about maintaining ability to use the car legally. The car could be roadworthy and fail an MOT.
The MOT test IS a roadworthiness test.
You might not like some of the definitions of roadworthiness, or at times how certain testers interpret them, but is is exactly that. I do feel the pain of people who have an expensive item on a car which has failed to the point it becomes deemed 'non-road-safe' in a way which you might dispute or might be difficult or non economic to repair, such as a £500 bill for a new wishbone/controlarm for a worn and non user replaceable ball joint, that might be able to do another year before it's too worn, or a niggly sensor error causing emissions to go through the roof. But can you really hand on heart say a ball joint with a decent amount of slop in it will do another year (is that 5k, 25k pa) before falling apart? Is it really appreciate to be driving around with massively more emissions than the car could put out because the garage cant get to the bottom of which sensor it is, or the sensor is £250 and the cars not worth it?
Daniel
You might not like some of the definitions of roadworthiness, or at times how certain testers interpret them, but is is exactly that. I do feel the pain of people who have an expensive item on a car which has failed to the point it becomes deemed 'non-road-safe' in a way which you might dispute or might be difficult or non economic to repair, such as a £500 bill for a new wishbone/controlarm for a worn and non user replaceable ball joint, that might be able to do another year before it's too worn, or a niggly sensor error causing emissions to go through the roof. But can you really hand on heart say a ball joint with a decent amount of slop in it will do another year (is that 5k, 25k pa) before falling apart? Is it really appreciate to be driving around with massively more emissions than the car could put out because the garage cant get to the bottom of which sensor it is, or the sensor is £250 and the cars not worth it?
Daniel
dhutch said:
The MOT test IS a roadworthiness test.
You might not like some of the definitions of roadworthiness, or at times how certain testers interpret them, but is is exactly that. I do feel the pain of people who have an expensive item on a car which has failed to the point it becomes deemed 'non-road-safe' in a way which you might dispute or might be difficult or non economic to repair, such as a £500 bill for a new wishbone/controlarm for a worn and non user replaceable ball joint, that might be able to do another year before it's too worn, or a niggly sensor error causing emissions to go through the roof. But can you really hand on heart say a ball joint with a decent amount of slop in it will do another year (is that 5k, 25k pa) before falling apart? Is it really appreciate to be driving around with massively more emissions than the car could put out because the garage cant get to the bottom of which sensor it is, or the sensor is £250 and the cars not worth it?
Daniel
The MOT is intended as a roadworthiness test. However, the way in which elements of it are carried out makes it inconsistent to the point that a roadworthy vehicle can fail it. You might not like some of the definitions of roadworthiness, or at times how certain testers interpret them, but is is exactly that. I do feel the pain of people who have an expensive item on a car which has failed to the point it becomes deemed 'non-road-safe' in a way which you might dispute or might be difficult or non economic to repair, such as a £500 bill for a new wishbone/controlarm for a worn and non user replaceable ball joint, that might be able to do another year before it's too worn, or a niggly sensor error causing emissions to go through the roof. But can you really hand on heart say a ball joint with a decent amount of slop in it will do another year (is that 5k, 25k pa) before falling apart? Is it really appreciate to be driving around with massively more emissions than the car could put out because the garage cant get to the bottom of which sensor it is, or the sensor is £250 and the cars not worth it?
Daniel
Ball-joint play is a prime example of a shortcoming in the MOT testing methodology because it comes down to the opinion of the tester on the day on what amounts to "excessive play". Ask any mechanic, and they will have come across testers who failed perfectly good cars because of "excessive play" in ball joints. I'm yet to hear of a tester breaking out the spec for the ball-joint and using a dial indicator to assess whether or not it is in tolerance, it's all done on feel and opinion and, frustratingly, is one of the few things that is difficult for most people to assess at home beforehand.
But, views on the MOT itself aside, I was just objecting to Chris suggesting that people are using the MOT extension simply to "save a few quid", and not because of the monumental ball-ache of finding themselves without transport if the MOT tester failed their car because he was using a longer prybar than usual and mistook the additional hand movement for excessive play (or alternatively, had a row with his missus before work).
The only time I've had a car fail an MOT was when I took it to a marque-specialist garage that also did MOTs. Despite the mechanic who knew that model inside and out giving it the thumbs up before it went in the bay, it failed on (you've guess it) ball-joints.
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