RE: MOTs given automatic six-month extension

[Johnnybee]

When do we think this will end? I’m guessing we could be given thirty days notice to give people time to arrange an MOT, as we get now.

[Welshbeef]

LukeyP_ said:

So our family car was due it's 1st MOT on Sunday coming, got it's 6 month extension as promised.

Now I realised, if you don't have an MOT already - you get a stupid history stamp like the below (OCD annoyance lol)



Compare that against my Dad's car which is already a few years old and was due MOT on 19th May, just got extension

2x diesels one of which runs it’s tyres to perishing haha skimping

[LukeyP_]

Welshbeef said:

2x diesels one of which runs it’s tyres to perishing haha skimping

Ha hardly, considering it's a company car and pretty certain they've been changed already.

[rs990]

Johnnybee said:

When do we think this will end? I’m guessing we could be given thirty days notice to give people time to arrange an MOT, as we get now.

I would have thought this would be applied for a full calendar year. If they stop this after say, six months, over the next few years you are going to have 6 months of manic activity in test centres and the rest of the year will be dead.

[Chester draws]

At the end of some explanatory notes for the legislation says....

" This exclusion will be kept under review by the Department. If it is no longer required, the final date on which a six-month exclusion can begin (30th March 2021) may be brought forward by a further instrument. Motorists will be given advance notice of any such change and a six-month exclusion that has already begun will not be curtailed."

So it runs for a year, or until such time as they choose to stop it! We will get "advance notice", but nothing to say what that would be.

Hopefully, the advance notice would be 30 days +...

[XR]

Todays development

[MG CHRIS]

As a mot tester this should be stopped pretty soon. Since going back to work ive done 6 mots 4 have failed 2 on dangerous faults. Stats for april show mot tests down 80% on same time as 2019. With more cars getting back on the road and with lockdown restrictions easing there shouldn't be any reason to have this much more than august.
The motoring lobby that supports the garage industry is pushing hard for its end also their is a cost too garages its a big part of most garages income and work flow atm garages are running on bare minimum of staff levels.
We have only 3 of the 6 techs in our side, car side in ford and volvo are running just a third of its techs and with sales side being hit in all setting we have just 30 of 130 members of staff back in if things go well by end of june it be 60 of the 130 and I can well see redudency happening soon.


This is being repeated in dealers up and down the country and in our cases before this kicked off ford were in plans to cut nearly half of its dealer network down many other manufactures will be looking at similar. Indy garages are even worse off currently as mots make up a lot more of their workflow compared to the dealers.

[Jamescrs]

I tried two local garages yesterday for an MOT for the wife's car, the first one was right enough but stated they still weren't opening for a couple of weeks.

The second one was apparently closed and diverting to the owners mobile and he promptly went off on a rant about how the cars shouldn't be on the road and we were causing a danger to the public. I calmly told him my wife is a nurse but I think he was too far off on one to listen.

Needless to say he has lost my business for.good.

Im.going.to make full use of the MOT extension period now.

Garages saying they are losing business, struggling etc but many really aren't willing to help themselves

[Max5476]

I decided to do my bit for the local garage and book the car in for an MOT despite the 6 month extension. My mistake though as it failed and needs new discs and pads.

[Little Pete]

Max5476 said:

I decided to do my bit for the local garage and book the car in for an MOT despite the 6 month extension. My mistake though as it failed and needs new discs and pads.

And in two short sentences, proof, if it were needed, why the extension needs to be stopped ASAP.

[Dracoro]

Max5476 said:

I decided to do my bit for the local garage and book the car in for an MOT despite the 6 month extension. My mistake though as it failed and needs new discs and pads.

Your “mistake”? Surely the opposite. Or are you saying you wished you’d have driven around with shot brakes for 6 months?

[syl]

Johnnybee said:

When do we think this will end? I’m guessing we could be given thirty days notice to give people time to arrange an MOT, as we get now.

I'd hope they give at least 15 days notice, but a month would probably be most appropriate.

I do have a vested interest though, the bike MOT being due in the first half of June.

[Mr Tidy]

My MOT was due on 24 May.

I don't know how true it is, but a motor trader mate of mine said one of his trader mates who also does MOTs had heard of a couple of cases where people using the extensions had accidents and their insurers were trying to wriggle out of paying.

Anyway as my usual place was open I booked mine in on 19 May, partly for peace of mind but also to keep a continuous history and avoid huge queues when the extensions expire! Thankfully it passed with no advisories.

But the certificate issued showed an expiry date of 18 May 2021. Having had a similar problem before I e-mailed the DVLA and they sent me a revised certificate showing expiry on 24 May 2021. It seems the extension tells their system it was done before it was due in November, so it worked from the test date.

So if anyone does get one done just check the dates!

[AlexRS2782]

Little Pete said:

Max5476 said:

I decided to do my bit for the local garage and book the car in for an MOT despite the 6 month extension. My mistake though as it failed and needs new discs and pads.

And in two short sentences, proof, if it were needed, why the extension needs to be stopped ASAP.

Unless, giving benefit of the doubt to the OP, he's saying he took it to the local place for an MOT to put some business their way and they returned the favour by failing the car on brakes hoping to generate some £££ and take advantage of the current situation? In reality the brakes are actually fine?

It wouldn't be the first time people have posted on here about bigger places like Kwik Fit / Halfords trying it on, so feasable for a small local to try their luck at the moment. Especially if someone needs their car & believes the fail / doesn't question it.

NB - I say this hoping i'm correct and not just because he's actually going to be genuinely using the extension to drive around on fukked brakes

Edited by AlexRS2782 on Thursday 28th May 02:21

[Dracoro]

Assuming not a dodgy mot tester, brake disks/pads are typically, afaik, only failed if the braking test test fails or excessively worn, either way they need fixing ASAP.

[Little Pete]

AlexRS2782 said:

Little Pete said:

Max5476 said:

I decided to do my bit for the local garage and book the car in for an MOT despite the 6 month extension. My mistake though as it failed and needs new discs and pads.

And in two short sentences, proof, if it were needed, why the extension needs to be stopped ASAP.

Unless, giving benefit of the doubt to the OP, he's saying he took it to the local place for an MOT to put some business their way and they returned the favour by failing the car on brakes hoping to generate some £££ and take advantage of the current situation? In reality the brakes are actually fine?

It wouldn't be the first time people have posted on here about bigger places like Kwik Fit / Halfords trying it on, so feasable for a small local to try their luck at the moment. Especially if someone needs their car & believes the fail / doesn't question it.

NB - I say this hoping i'm correct and not just because he's actually going to be genuinely using the extension to drive around on fukked brakes

Edited by AlexRS2782 on Thursday 28th May 02:21

Nearly an hour before someone mentions the garage failing the car to generate income and comparing them to fast fit. Telly must be good tonight or standards are slipping!
My point was there will be cars being driven by people oblivious to any defects, as MG Chris has noted, and that is why the extension needs to be stopped ASAP. It’s why we have an MOT in the first place.

[skyrover]

Most countries get by just fine without an MOT. 6 months isn't going to make a significant difference other than to garage owners pockets.

[normalbloke]

skyrover said:

Most countries get by just fine without an MOT. 6 months isn't going to make a significant difference other than to garage owners pockets.

Not to mention the many classes of vehicle that are already on our roads which are MOT exempt.

Edited by normalbloke on Thursday 28th May 10:22

[Max5476]

Little Pete said:

And in two short sentences, proof, if it were needed, why the extension needs to be stopped ASAP.

This was my point, now that most garages are open, the MOT extension can now be scrapped - in fact it would help encourage those garages that still haven't reopened to open again. My other car is due a service, but the usual independant garage are still shut - their loss, I will now change garage, and if happy with the service will use them going forwards.

Dracoro said:

Your “mistake”? Surely the opposite. Or are you saying you wished you’d have driven around with shot brakes for 6 months?

Dracoro said:

Assuming not a dodgy mot tester, brake disks/pads are typically, afaik, only failed if the braking test test fails or excessively worn, either way they need fixing ASAP.

AlexRS2782 said:

Unless, giving benefit of the doubt to the OP, he's saying he took it to the local place for an MOT to put some business their way and they returned the favour by failing the car on brakes hoping to generate some £££ and take advantage of the current situation? In reality the brakes are actually fine?

It wouldn't be the first time people have posted on here about bigger places like Kwik Fit / Halfords trying it on, so feasable for a small local to try their luck at the moment. Especially if someone needs their car & believes the fail / doesn't question it.

NB - I say this hoping i'm correct and not just because he's actually going to be genuinely using the extension to drive around on fukked brakes

Agreed - It was only sarcasm to suggest I would have rather kept driving on them - although despite failing for excessive wear, the wear indicating shim hadn't started squealing on the brakes. I trust the MOT garage though, as I have used them regularly and been happy with the service given.

[Max5476]

Mr Tidy said:

My MOT was due on 24 May.

Anyway as my usual place was open I booked mine in on 19 May, partly for peace of mind but also to keep a continuous history and avoid huge queues when the extensions expire! Thankfully it passed with no advisories.

But the certificate issued showed an expiry date of 18 May 2021. Having had a similar problem before I e-mailed the DVLA and they sent me a revised certificate showing expiry on 24 May 2021. It seems the extension tells their system it was done before it was due in November, so it worked from the test date.

So if anyone does get one done just check the dates!

The same here, I have also emailed the DVSA, so hopefully they will amend mine as well. (Gov.co.uk suggested that the DVLA didn't deal with MOTs)