Anybody won one of those car lotteries?

Anybody won one of those car lotteries?

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kharma45

215 posts

73 months

Sunday 18th April 2021
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joropug said:
They have to so they aren't classed as a lottery. Timing isn't always in your favour and it's a bit of effort but I do some postal ones too and they're usually accepted.
Most postal entries for DCG seem to end up binned/mysteriously never arriving. No issues with other sites like 7daysperformance.

ch37

10,642 posts

221 months

Monday 19th April 2021
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I've been keeping a note this year as it's become a bit of a hobby during lockdown (my daily WFH lunchtime walk takes me past a post box).

The last 100 entries has cost me £90 exactly (stamps and postcards, bought a pack of 100 of each) and has given me a total value of just under £1200 of confirmed entries (i.e. received a ticket number by email/in my account). Financially an absolute no-brainer compared to paying for an entry if you can be bothered to put the effort in, minimum entry I bother with is £5 which comfortably offsets the occasional unprocessed entry now I know how the big 4 or 5 sites work.

7 Days have indeed been consistently the best, in fact they've never not processed an entry within 48hrs of posting at most. Not many high-cost comps worth posting an entry with them though, maybe one a week. Bang for buck DCG are best, bit flaky processing entries sometimes though and some sell out extremely quickly so you have to pick wisely.

Edited by ch37 on Monday 19th April 02:09

200Plus Club

10,756 posts

278 months

Monday 19th April 2021
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ch37 said:
I've been keeping a note this year as it's become a bit of a hobby during lockdown (my daily WFH lunchtime walk takes me past a post box).

The last 100 entries has cost me £90 exactly (stamps and postcards, bought a pack of 100 of each) and has given me a total value of just under £1200 of confirmed entries (i.e. received a ticket number by email/in my account). Financially an absolute no-brainer compared to paying for an entry if you can be bothered to put the effort in, minimum entry I bother with is £5 which comfortably offsets the occasional unprocessed entry now I know how the big 4 or 5 sites work.

7 Days have indeed been consistently the best, in fact they've never not processed an entry within 48hrs of posting at most. Not many high-cost comps worth posting an entry with them though, maybe one a week. Bang for buck DCG are best, bit flaky processing entries sometimes though and some sell out extremely quickly so you have to pick wisely.

Edited by ch37 on Monday 19th April 02:09
Have you won anything? Fair play for effort.

ch37

10,642 posts

221 months

Monday 19th April 2021
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200Plus Club said:
Have you won anything? Fair play for effort.
Nope! Doesn't feel so bad though having only spent a small amount (I've had entries processed for competitions that cost £25-50 to enter, for 90p!)

I'd be at least £4k down now since the start of lockdown 1.0 if I'd entered online.

I'll be stopping once I return to the office this Autumn.

Shnozz

27,475 posts

271 months

Monday 19th April 2021
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I really had no idea people were spending thousands on these competitions. I don't know why but that has shocked me. I thought they were the odd £20 at an airport but of fun. Buying hundreds of entries would make me think you must feel sick when the results are released and you haven't won.

ch37

10,642 posts

221 months

Monday 19th April 2021
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Shnozz said:
I really had no idea people were spending thousands on these competitions. I don't know why but that has shocked me. I thought they were the odd £20 at an airport but of fun. Buying hundreds of entries would make me think you must feel sick when the results are released and you haven't won.
Some sites publish their entry lists, it's not at all uncommon to see the same names maxing out for many competitions (maxing out on the RS6 being drawn on one of the sites today would be £650, giving you a 1 in 120 chance of winning).

It's appalling that it's completely unregulated really, it's simply the fact that they offer a free postal entry which means they aren't classified as gambling. Apart from the 6 or 7 biggest sites most just seem to bin postal entries anyway, so essentially operating completely illegally.

coffeebreath

181 posts

93 months

Monday 19th April 2021
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kharma45 said:
joropug said:
They have to so they aren't classed as a lottery. Timing isn't always in your favour and it's a bit of effort but I do some postal ones too and they're usually accepted.
Most postal entries for DCG seem to end up binned/mysteriously never arriving. No issues with other sites like 7daysperformance.
Thanks for the tip.

How do you know if your postal entry is included, do you have to check the entry list?

Pazuzu

435 posts

236 months

Monday 19th April 2021
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joropug said:
Watch #1 I had 20x 99p out of 6000 =1/300

Furniture had 3x£2.20 out of 499 = 1/166

Watch #2 I had 2x 3.99 out of 699 = 1/350

Car we had 12 tickets each at 99p, 24/13000 ISH so 1/540 roughly

I reckon I have spent 3k but I don't dare add it up, I think that's about right though and it's far more than I would like to have staked I got carried away.
That's not how odds work smile



carparkno1

1,432 posts

158 months

Monday 19th April 2021
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I have the odd go on these for the low odds but cheap runabouts or watches just as a nice to have. The rev comps guys put a bit of fun into their broadcasts, some of the others are very dry.

I raised my eyebrows recently when some guy spent a tonne and won across a few sites in a matter of a week or so, and there have been some double or even triple winners where I worry there is something afoot. Also I think someone sold a car to dream cars and then their missus won it back immediately or something?

I'm fairly sure they are all on the up and up but natural hesitance keeps me from putting any serious money in to pursue a supercar etc.

ch37

10,642 posts

221 months

Monday 19th April 2021
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coffeebreath said:
hanks for the tip.

How do you know if your postal entry is included, do you have to check the entry list?
Most sites will email you your ticket number and/or add it to your account, so you know your number in advance if you happen to watch the live draw. Rev Comps were the biggest one not to do this (had to check the entry list on the night) but they now have a new platform where it's all added to your account.

carparkno1 said:
I raised my eyebrows recently when some guy spent a tonne and won across a few sites in a matter of a week or so, and there have been some double or even triple winners where I worry there is something afoot. Also I think someone sold a car to dream cars and then their missus won it back immediately or something?
DCG have given away something like 1500 cars now, it would be significantly harder for them to be dodgy than to just run a legit competition where they aim to sell a third more tickets in value than the cost of the car to them. With that many comps going on you're bound to get the occasion anomaly, most people who sell a car to these sites seem to buy tickets for that comp (I would!) Most of the big sites have had multiple winners.

I have two rules for entering...

1) do they process postal entries (the main players do, by and large), if so they are more than likely a legit operation
2) do they have guaranteed, fixed end dates (again the big sites do) rather than weaselling out by constantly extending the end dates?




Edited by ch37 on Monday 19th April 14:16

Shrimpvende

859 posts

92 months

Monday 19th April 2021
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I'm interested to know what percentage have won a bonafide supercar and managed to keep it/make it work. No snobbery at all intended in this post, but the reality of it is they're not the cheapest things to keep and maintain, even if you've won it.

For starters, the Cobratrack subscription is £250-350 per year depending on the marque and you can't get insurance without it (ask me how I know...) then you've got to tax and insure it, perhaps not all that easy depending where you live, then think about where to store the car if you've got a small driveway or on street parking only and it'll stick out like a sore thumb. When it comes to servicing time the costs are huge and tyres don't last all that long either. That's assuming it's still fairly new and under warranty, it would be even worse if that wasn't the case.

The truth is, if you're fairly young and not in the best of postcodes it could easily cost you £3k or more for tracker/tax/insurance before you can turn a wheel in your newly won toy - or even start to think about the petrol cost!

Stevil

10,659 posts

229 months

Monday 19th April 2021
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Shrimpvende said:
I'm interested to know what percentage have won a bonafide supercar and managed to keep it/make it work. No snobbery at all intended in this post, but the reality of it is they're not the cheapest things to keep and maintain, even if you've won it.

For starters, the Cobratrack subscription is £250-350 per year depending on the marque and you can't get insurance without it (ask me how I know...) then you've got to tax and insure it, perhaps not all that easy depending where you live, then think about where to store the car if you've got a small driveway or on street parking only and it'll stick out like a sore thumb. When it comes to servicing time the costs are huge and tyres don't last all that long either. That's assuming it's still fairly new and under warranty, it would be even worse if that wasn't the case.

The truth is, if you're fairly young and not in the best of postcodes it could easily cost you £3k or more for tracker/tax/insurance before you can turn a wheel in your newly won toy - or even start to think about the petrol cost!
For DCG on their big supercar competitions they tend to give away 5-10k in cash too, so you can afford to run it and have some fun for a few months at least.

joropug

2,571 posts

189 months

Monday 19th April 2021
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Pazuzu said:
That's not how odds work smile
How so? If there are 6,000 tickets and I buy 20, I have 1 ticket out of every 300 they sell.

CrippsCorner

2,808 posts

181 months

Monday 19th April 2021
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I still play DGC, but I limit myself to one ticket on pay day... I've not won anything, but another car forum I regularly visit has had 3 or 4 winners.

Shrimpvende

859 posts

92 months

Monday 19th April 2021
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Stevil said:
Shrimpvende said:
I'm interested to know what percentage have won a bonafide supercar and managed to keep it/make it work. No snobbery at all intended in this post, but the reality of it is they're not the cheapest things to keep and maintain, even if you've won it.

For starters, the Cobratrack subscription is £250-350 per year depending on the marque and you can't get insurance without it (ask me how I know...) then you've got to tax and insure it, perhaps not all that easy depending where you live, then think about where to store the car if you've got a small driveway or on street parking only and it'll stick out like a sore thumb. When it comes to servicing time the costs are huge and tyres don't last all that long either. That's assuming it's still fairly new and under warranty, it would be even worse if that wasn't the case.

The truth is, if you're fairly young and not in the best of postcodes it could easily cost you £3k or more for tracker/tax/insurance before you can turn a wheel in your newly won toy - or even start to think about the petrol cost!
For DCG on their big supercar competitions they tend to give away 5-10k in cash too, so you can afford to run it and have some fun for a few months at least.
Ah - that makes a little more sense!

Fady

345 posts

204 months

Monday 19th April 2021
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Shrimpvende said:
Stevil said:
Shrimpvende said:
I'm interested to know what percentage have won a bonafide supercar and managed to keep it/make it work. No snobbery at all intended in this post, but the reality of it is they're not the cheapest things to keep and maintain, even if you've won it.

For starters, the Cobratrack subscription is £250-350 per year depending on the marque and you can't get insurance without it (ask me how I know...) then you've got to tax and insure it, perhaps not all that easy depending where you live, then think about where to store the car if you've got a small driveway or on street parking only and it'll stick out like a sore thumb. When it comes to servicing time the costs are huge and tyres don't last all that long either. That's assuming it's still fairly new and under warranty, it would be even worse if that wasn't the case.

The truth is, if you're fairly young and not in the best of postcodes it could easily cost you £3k or more for tracker/tax/insurance before you can turn a wheel in your newly won toy - or even start to think about the petrol cost!
For DCG on their big supercar competitions they tend to give away 5-10k in cash too, so you can afford to run it and have some fun for a few months at least.
Ah - that makes a little more sense!
They generally offer a cash alternative as well - so Ferrari + 10k or take 100k in cash.

Pimply 21 year old car loving winner can then go off and get a Fiesta ST or some such and then bank the rest...

knitware

1,473 posts

193 months

Monday 19th April 2021
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joropug said:
How so? If there are 6,000 tickets and I buy 20, I have 1 ticket out of every 300 they sell.
The odds are low for winning and high for losing.

Purchase 20 tickets from 6000 available tickets=
Probability of:
Winning = (0.0033) or 0.3322%
Losing = (0.9967) or 99.6678%

(I think...)

mikeswagon

698 posts

141 months

Monday 19th April 2021
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joropug said:
Pazuzu said:
That's not how odds work smile
How so? If there are 6,000 tickets and I buy 20, I have 1 ticket out of every 300 they sell.
I'm not a gambler, but that's kinda how I saw it too.

I won a Nova SR last year from Redline. I still buy a ticket every couple of weeks, depending on who's got what up to win, but limiting myself to something that I could realistically use everyday, or something tasty to stash away and take out to shows.

Fady

345 posts

204 months

Monday 19th April 2021
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knitware said:
joropug said:
How so? If there are 6,000 tickets and I buy 20, I have 1 ticket out of every 300 they sell.
The odds are low for winning and high for losing.

Purchase 20 tickets from 6000 available tickets=
Probability of:
Winning = (0.0033) or 0.3322%
Losing = (0.9967) or 99.6678%

(I think...)
1/300 = 0.0033 so same difference.

BBenzzz

159 posts

89 months

Monday 19th April 2021
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Lad from near me won a 540c last week and from memory the tickets were £6.99.. Seems to be a reasonably local competition company but the speed they are selling prizes i bet they'll be big in no time.