Anybody won one of those car lotteries?

Anybody won one of those car lotteries?

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toon10

6,194 posts

158 months

Tuesday 28th March 2023
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TheJimi said:
Bathroom_Security said:
Has anyone set aside a significant portion of cash to go all in?

Talking a couple of grand. See what happens?
I get pissed off when I spend £5-10 and lose. Which is why I'm not a habitual and consistent gambler - I'm far too tight.

No way I'd blow £2k on one of these sites.
I budget £65 per month for competitions and I usually spready that over 2 competitions. A low odds watch on RevComps and whatever car I fancy on DGC or RevComps. I've never won anything and don't expect to but I also feel better that I haven't gone max tickets on loads of competitions and be thousands down for a higher chance of winning. I'm not a great gambler.

joropug

2,589 posts

190 months

Tuesday 28th March 2023
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Elite have released another instant win - The outcome so far suggests that prize allocation is not at all random.

https://elitecompetitions.co.uk/competitions/pound...


You can see at this early stage that there is a huge block of adjacent prizes that have already been won (low value).

If number allocation was random, this would be spread across the whole list.

I wonder if this is intentional as the big prizes seemed to go quickly last time.



Carries on for page after page until:



thecremeegg

1,964 posts

204 months

Tuesday 28th March 2023
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There are lot more of the £10 credits than the higher tier prizes which will mean they're more likely to be drawn. That said, it's all very sus imo

joropug

2,589 posts

190 months

Tuesday 28th March 2023
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thecremeegg said:
There are lot more of the £10 credits than the higher tier prizes which will mean they're more likely to be drawn. That said, it's all very sus imo
Each one has a unique number though, so take away the name of the prize if each individual prize has the same odds of being drawn then the winning tickets should be spread.

In the two screen shots there are the same number of prizes in each, one screenshot has none, the other loads.

To me that means the winning ticket numbers are not random and are weighted towards lower prizes.

thecremeegg

1,964 posts

204 months

Tuesday 28th March 2023
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joropug said:
Each one has a unique number though, so take away the name of the prize if each individual prize has the same odds of being drawn then the winning tickets should be spread.

In the two screen shots there are the same number of prizes in each, one screenshot has none, the other loads.

To me that means the winning ticket numbers are not random and are weighted towards lower prizes.
Good point, perhaps they allocate the prize after the number is picked then which is dodgy af

Brainpox

4,056 posts

152 months

Tuesday 28th March 2023
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Doesn't look suspicious to me, just very poor odds. Site credit is not a prize imo.

I think people don't appreciate how poor of a deal odds of 750 in 200k are. Look at the prizes too. Only a few decent cash prizes. You might win some scratchcards or lottery tickets though? Extremely poor, but people are spending hundreds on it.

Brainpox

4,056 posts

152 months

Tuesday 28th March 2023
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joropug said:
In the two screen shots there are the same number of prizes in each, one screenshot has none, the other loads.
Have another look through the prize list. By the looks of it, the winning tickets go to the top of each section. Take a look at the Sonos speakers for example, the two that have been won are above the ones still waiting. Scroll below the £10 size credit wins and there are hundreds still waiting.

joropug

2,589 posts

190 months

Tuesday 28th March 2023
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Brainpox said:
Have another look through the prize list. By the looks of it, the winning tickets go to the top of each section. Take a look at the Sonos speakers for example, the two that have been won are above the ones still waiting. Scroll below the £10 size credit wins and there are hundreds still waiting.
Ah perhaps that’s it then - that makes sense. It seemed almost too bad to be true.

I think I shall stay away regardless!

foz01

767 posts

264 months

Tuesday 28th March 2023
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ch37

10,642 posts

222 months

Tuesday 28th March 2023
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foz01 said:
Yeah I posted this earlier, you could use a credit card on some of these 'free comp' sites too, just to hammer home how unregulated it is (any sort of credit is illegal on actual gambling sites).

Very, very easy to spend more than £20k in 24hrs on free comps.

TheJimi

25,010 posts

244 months

Tuesday 28th March 2023
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ch37 said:
foz01 said:
Yeah I posted this earlier, you could use a credit card on some of these 'free comp' sites too, just to hammer home how unregulated it is (any sort of credit is illegal on actual gambling sites).

Very, very easy to spend more than £20k in 24hrs on free comps.
Mental.

It's definitely a matter of time before these competitions come under the scope of regulation.

Yellowfez

286 posts

16 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
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P1Fanatic said:
Its Just Adz said:
Hell fire, I'd say calm down a bit.
https://www.gamblersanonymous.org.uk/
Thanks but I have a technique, if you can call it that, of taking a few weeks off cold turkey , seems to work for now!

Yellowfez

286 posts

16 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
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Horsey McHorseface said:
Yellowfez said:
These are my current regulars, is there any worth adding ?

Who are these three?

WintheCarCom…
UP - MyAccount-Le
POD – ThisFriday’sFre
WintheCarCom… = book mark for Silverstone dream cars
UP - MyAccount-Le = Level up, the guys who gave away the Officially gassed 911 Turbo
POD – ThisFriday’sFre= this is run by the guy who does Calvins car diaries, you get a free token for one competition otherwise you need to subscribe for a monthly fee like the Yianamize competition site



joropug

2,589 posts

190 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
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Yellowfez said:
WintheCarCom… = book mark for Silverstone dream cars
UP - MyAccount-Le = Level up, the guys who gave away the Officially gassed 911 Turbo
POD – ThisFriday’sFre= this is run by the guy who does Calvins car diaries, you get a free token for one competition otherwise you need to subscribe for a monthly fee like the Yianamize competition site
All sounds like extra steps for no reason other than to further dilute or conceal the odds?

Level Up - Surprised anyone is interested in their site after the stunt they pulled on that 911

Koyaanisqatsi

2,294 posts

31 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
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joropug said:
Elite have released another instant win - The outcome so far suggests that prize allocation is not at all random.

https://elitecompetitions.co.uk/competitions/pound...


You can see at this early stage that there is a huge block of adjacent prizes that have already been won (low value).

If number allocation was random, this would be spread across the whole list.

I wonder if this is intentional as the big prizes seemed to go quickly last time.



Carries on for page after page until:

Is it just me who finds it irritating, albeit not surprising in the least, that so many people on there are incapable of typing their own name using a capital letter?

P1Fanatic

846 posts

14 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
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Koyaanisqatsi said:
Is it just me who finds it irritating, albeit not surprising in the least, that so many people on there are incapable of typing their own name using a capital letter?
Nope - grinds my gears. Even worse in a work environment when people do it on Webex / Teams etc

hairykrishna

13,183 posts

204 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
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joropug said:
DCG and Redline are in my experience, near enough fully compliant with postal entries and so that’s where I also spend my money too.
DCG stopped being compliant a little while ago I found.

hairykrishna

13,183 posts

204 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
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Bathroom_Security said:
Has anyone set aside a significant portion of cash to go all in?

Talking a couple of grand. See what happens?
The expected return on these sites is rubbish. Fun for a 'what if' flutter but you'd genuinely be better off spaffing it on roulette if you're out for an 'investment'.

P1Fanatic

846 posts

14 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
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joropug said:
All sounds like extra steps for no reason other than to further dilute or conceal the odds?

Level Up - Surprised anyone is interested in their site after the stunt they pulled on that 911
I only joined Level Up for the 911 (well the £100k tbh as I would have killed myself in that car and it would be a money pit to maintain at that level) and certainly won't be rushing back. They now have the R32 up that was featured on OG recently. I seem to recall Jamie knows the owner of Level Up (but I may have misread that). 99p tickets also sound great but the odds are crazy. That's why I stick with Rev Comps for low & clear odds, drawn no matter how few sold = far more transparent (I know a few say they stopped handling postal entries but tbh that doesn't bother me in the slightest).

TheJimi

25,010 posts

244 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
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Yes, Jamie (Offically Gassed) is friends with the guy who runs Level Up.