Anybody won one of those car lotteries?

[GhostWKD]

Its Just Adz said:

You've had quite enough, sit this one out.

Sadly, it wasn't meant to be either way

[Yellowfez]

A.J.M said:

A.J.M said:

Entered a few on that.

Won’t win it, like the other 2 attempts.
And countless others.

Mystic A.J.M was right.

No Cosworth for me. Again.

Same 😡

[griffin dai]

[Yellowfez]

griffin dai said:

There’s still some old skool Ford hope !

[Suubzer0]

Im loving that yamaha XJR kenny roberts edition on RC, looks sweet

[Yellowfez]

A distinct lack of codes this Easter weekend, on another not a friend had a decent cash win with Elite, don’t play there but might start now, it’s mainly instant comps though

[Wineandtiramisu]

Been 50/50 over the past couple of weeks on RC for postals, was at nearly 100% before that. Auto draws seem less reliable than the main draws, but only 2 out of 3 main draws accepted today

Am currently away for a week, so may spend more than usual without my postal back ups

[John87]

Wineandtiramisu said:

Been 50/50 over the past couple of weeks on RC for postals, was at nearly 100% before that. Auto draws seem less reliable than the main draws, but only 2 out of 3 main draws accepted today

Am currently away for a week, so may spend more than usual without my postal back ups

I've also had 2/3 accepted for today. Haven't had anything yet on the day van but was fine for the Mustang and M5.

I would have blamed the holiday weekend but they were all posted together...

[FishAndChips]

Haven't bothered to send any post cards due to the Easter bank holidays, but not surprised to see processing rate dropping. Will be back it from later this week.

[Cheshire-Cat]

FishAndChips said:

Haven't bothered to send any post cards due to the Easter bank holidays, but not surprised to see processing rate dropping. Will be back it from later this week.

And people wonder why the ticket prices are going up and up while people are sending in an arm-full of postcards every week. They're not "free" entries, they are subsidised by people who put their hands in their pocket and actually pay their way in life.

Each to their own but I'd be embarrassed as hell winning something that everyone else has had to pay for.

[John87]

Cheshire-Cat said:

And people wonder why the ticket prices are going up and up while people are sending in an arm-full of postcards every week. They're not "free" entries, they are subsidised by people who put their hands in their pocket and actually pay their way in life.

Each to their own but I'd be embarrassed as hell winning something that everyone else has had to pay for.

Personally I'd quite enjoy winning something nice for the price of a stamp.

I've spent thousands on these competitions and won absolutely nothing so what's wrong with subsidising future entries with some postcards? A smaller prize will be more than covered by what I have spent previously. I'd also be surprised if there are many sending an "armful" each week. The most I enter is three per draw but it's usually one or two and others seem similar.

If you don't like to subsidise those who play via postcards then the only way round it is to play a regulated lottery. Personally I spend more money on sites which accept postals than others as it marks them out to be more trustworthy IMO.

[Timfy]

Cheshire-Cat said:

And people wonder why the ticket prices are going up and up while people are sending in an arm-full of postcards every week. They're not "free" entries, they are subsidised by people who put their hands in their pocket and actually pay their way in life.

Each to their own but I'd be embarrassed as hell winning something that everyone else has had to pay for.

Whilst it is true that nothing is “free” it is also true that legally these companies must offer this in order to operate at all, and the business must be viable on that basis.

I know I spend a fair bit too, but still use the postal route.

Of course the other option raffle companies have is to attain a license to operate a lottery, then they won’t be offering free entry (and also could not legally offer “early bird” discounts or free credit, do half of their current promotional activity, take payment from credit cards, allow people to spend tens of thousands a week with minimal safeguarding in place and many other things that bring in a lot of business for them.)

I suspect the cost of taking the regulated route and remaining compliant would be prohibitively expensive compared to the current setup, otherwise at lease one raffle operator would have done it….

[sdh2903]

Cheshire-Cat said:

And people wonder why the ticket prices are going up and up while people are sending in an arm-full of postcards every week. They're not "free" entries, they are subsidised by people who put their hands in their pocket and actually pay their way in life.

Each to their own but I'd be embarrassed as hell winning something that everyone else has had to pay for.

Agreed.

[Oceanrower]

sdh2903 said:

Cheshire-Cat said:

And people wonder why the ticket prices are going up and up while people are sending in an arm-full of postcards every week. They're not "free" entries, they are subsidised by people who put their hands in their pocket and actually pay their way in life.

Each to their own but I'd be embarrassed as hell winning something that everyone else has had to pay for.

Agreed.

I can assure you that when I won a Triumph Street Triple and a grand cash on a postal entry, I was not embarrassed in the least.

But thank you for your concern.

Edited by Oceanrower on Tuesday 2nd April 14:20

[Cheshire-Cat]

John87 said:

Cheshire-Cat said:

And people wonder why the ticket prices are going up and up while people are sending in an arm-full of postcards every week. They're not "free" entries, they are subsidised by people who put their hands in their pocket and actually pay their way in life.

Each to their own but I'd be embarrassed as hell winning something that everyone else has had to pay for.

Personally I'd quite enjoy winning something nice for the price of a stamp.

I've spent thousands on these competitions and won absolutely nothing so what's wrong with subsidising future entries with some postcards? A smaller prize will be more than covered by what I have spent previously. I'd also be surprised if there are many sending an "armful" each week. The most I enter is three per draw but it's usually one or two and others seem similar.

If you don't like to subsidise those who play via postcards then the only way round it is to play a regulated lottery. Personally I spend more money on sites which accept postals than others as it marks them out to be more trustworthy IMO.

One of the reasons people are spending a fortune and winning nothing is because the number of tickets, and price per ticket, is going up and up to cover the cost of all these postal entries. I get its a legal requirement to accept them and people aren't doing anything wrong, but the cost is being passed on to people who don't send them on ... thats the issue. The Comp companies won't be out of pocket, they just pass the cost on.

If you had a draw and everyone had paid in a tenner say per ticket and the winner hadn't paid a penny in (other than paying for the stamp) how is that right.

Just an opinion... maybe I am the mug in life for thinking like this.

[weewhiskydram]

Cheshire-Cat said:

One of the reasons people are spending a fortune and winning nothing is because the number of tickets, and price per ticket, is going up and up to cover the cost of all these postal entries. I get its a legal requirement to accept them and people aren't doing anything wrong, but the cost is being passed on to people who don't send them on ... thats the issue. The Comp companies won't be out of pocket, they just pass the cost on.

If you had a draw and everyone had paid in a tenner say per ticket and the winner hadn't paid a penny in (other than paying for the stamp) how is that right.

Just an opinion... maybe I am the mug in life for thinking like this.

Well personally I do postals as I cant afford to enter every car I would like to win, I simply cant afford it. So I will buy a genuine ticket for the car I like the most, then for the others I send a postcard. Sometimes the postcards get processed, sometimes they dont. But I certainly wouldnt feel guilty if one of my postcard entries won. I still spend money with comp sites and have done for years now.

[Timfy]

Cheshire-Cat said:

John87 said:

Cheshire-Cat said:

And people wonder why the ticket prices are going up and up while people are sending in an arm-full of postcards every week. They're not "free" entries, they are subsidised by people who put their hands in their pocket and actually pay their way in life.

Each to their own but I'd be embarrassed as hell winning something that everyone else has had to pay for.

Personally I'd quite enjoy winning something nice for the price of a stamp.

I've spent thousands on these competitions and won absolutely nothing so what's wrong with subsidising future entries with some postcards? A smaller prize will be more than covered by what I have spent previously. I'd also be surprised if there are many sending an "armful" each week. The most I enter is three per draw but it's usually one or two and others seem similar.

If you don't like to subsidise those who play via postcards then the only way round it is to play a regulated lottery. Personally I spend more money on sites which accept postals than others as it marks them out to be more trustworthy IMO.

One of the reasons people are spending a fortune and winning nothing is because the number of tickets, and price per ticket, is going up and up to cover the cost of all these postal entries. I get its a legal requirement to accept them and people aren't doing anything wrong, but the cost is being passed on to people who don't send them on ... thats the issue. The Comp companies won't be out of pocket, they just pass the cost on.

If you had a draw and everyone had paid in a tenner say per ticket and the winner hadn't paid a penny in (other than paying for the stamp) how is that right.

Just an opinion... maybe I am the mug in life for thinking like this.

It’s right because that’s the very foundation of their business model- it has to be factored into the cost just as any other discount, completely “free” promotional draws, “free” credit draws and promotions or “free” hoodies etc, not to mention the insane marketing costs for advertising on social media, sponsorship of local businesses, charity donations and no doubt lots of other stuff too- everything goes towards the cost of the ticket. I suspect given the huge online marketing spend the postal entry route is likely to be a relatively small part of their outgoings- and worthwhile to avoid the expense and restrictions of having to comply with gambling rules which would make it very difficult to operate at all (let’s be honest- it is gambling, and the free entry is the loophole that allows them to avoid a lot of the responsibilities that come with operating as such.)

I don’t take the piss with postal entries, but will send some in alongside bought tickets and wouldn’t care if it was a postal entry that won- much like I wouldn’t care if I won with a ticket bought with “free” bonus credit etc. which also adds to the ticket cost in the same way.


I also play on another, non car based comp site that hardly does any promotion but instead they actively go out of their way to encourage their free entry option by regularly mentioning it on streams to get as many people involved as possible, although they are much smaller prizes they do have much lower odds to compensate.

Edited by Timfy on Tuesday 2nd April 12:09

[sdh2903]

weewhiskydram said:

Well personally I do postals as I cant afford to enter every car I would like to win, I simply cant afford it. So I will buy a genuine ticket for the car I like the most, then for the others I send a postcard. Sometimes the postcards get processed, sometimes they dont. But I certainly wouldnt feel guilty if one of my postcard entries won. I still spend money with comp sites and have done for years now.

It's basic economics. If you can't afford it, then don't play.

I see lots of complaints previously regarding the odds and cost per ticket going up. In the same thread people saying how they enter for free. reminds me of that guy down the pub who avoids paying for his round.

[vRSDave]

Cheshire-Cat said:

Each to their own but I'd be embarrassed as hell winning something that everyone else has had to pay for.

If I win the R8 I'll keep the roof on so nobody can see my embarrassment.

Prices only go up on postal entries when stamp prices go up at the end of the day, postal entries are factored into the business model and price/ticket of each competition, without postal entries they cannot run the competitions so it a moot point and not worth worrying about.

EDIT:

Also nobody HAD to pay for, everyone has the option to enter via postal.

Edited by vRSDave on Tuesday 2nd April 15:00

[sdh2903]

vRSDave said:

Also nobody HAD to pay for, everyone has the option to enter via postal.

Edited by vRSDave on Tuesday 2nd April 15:00

In which case these car lotteries would cease to exist entirely. Top logic.