Best smoker barges 1-5 large [Vol 16]

Best smoker barges 1-5 large [Vol 16]

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SpeckledJim

31,608 posts

253 months

Thursday 21st May 2020
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Krikkit said:
Zonergem said:
https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C1228155

Run away. Owner's brother owns Manchester's answer to Cerberus too, who was busy trying to chew through stainless steel fence to have at us during the viewing as well.

Oh, and if he didn't know before he definitely knows now.
My Brother in law lives round the corner from there.

What a shocker that is, such horrendous safety-related rust and they're quite happy to let it go to someone with no quibbles at all.

The SL sounds a bit suspect, but understandably it's been outgunned in the terror stakes by the CL. Even so it's highly irritating to have travelled a decent distance to find a car not even close to as-described.
What was the reg of that car being irresponsibly sold with dangerous corrosion to safety-critical components?

Was it R770 XSW, or R770XSW?

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jke11y

3,181 posts

237 months

Thursday 21st May 2020
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To give them a small amount of credit they do hint at the fact it is goosed in the advert by saying it will start and run for loading purposes; and we all know they don't mean "loading up with your family and hitting 120 on the motorway" purposes.

bolidemichael

13,866 posts

201 months

Thursday 21st May 2020
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JOB2.5-16 said:
Leaving Chesterfield at 07:30 to head south for an R129 which appeared to be the bargain of the century; you might have seen it on C&C, though the ad is now removed. It was a 199 Blueblack 300SL-24 with 75,000 miles, and "extensive service history". According to the advert again, it was for sale following a period of lack of use and major recommissioning by a specialist, incidentally one that I've never heard of.

Upon arrival it was clear that the bodywork was in much poorer condition than photographed, the interior trim had almost all been out and bodged back together by someone with super-glue and a 12lb hammer, the roof didn't work (contrary to the advert) and we were generally left un-impressed and came away empty handed. That said, being disappointed by a near 30 year old car is not a hangable offence and it was too good to be true anyway. Nothing ventured, nothing gained.

Untitled by Jack O'Brien, on Flickr

Untitled by Jack O'Brien, on Flickr

Another of this parish was lusting over this recently and left equally nonplussed. I believe that CdG was goading him into the purchase, nonetheless.

ian316

4,150 posts

105 months

Thursday 21st May 2020
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That rust is shocking, And 38.4mpg is probably due to not having to do any braking my Scania truck is doing 10.3mpg compared to a 9.7 normally

JOB2.5-16

403 posts

72 months

Thursday 21st May 2020
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Zonergem said:
https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C1228155

Run away. Owner's brother owns Manchester's answer to Cerberus too, who was busy trying to chew through stainless steel fence to have at us during the viewing as well.

Oh, and if he didn't know before he definitely knows now.

Edited by Zonergem on Thursday 21st May 17:20
Nibbles, the f’in big Rottweiler was indeed somewhat off-putting while trying to determine the level of bork of the old M120. Haha

JOB2.5-16

403 posts

72 months

Thursday 21st May 2020
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ian316 said:
That rust is shocking, And 38.4mpg is probably due to not having to do any braking my Scania truck is doing 10.3mpg compared to a 9.7 normally
The best in our fleet is the Mercedes Arocs 3243, followed closely by the MAN TGS420. Both regularly achieve over 10mpg. Better than the DAFs we run, but DAF parts are much more reasonable and after sales is much better than the German brands. I’ve had the reps for all three manufacturers on the phone this week trying to flog sitting stock. It’s a great time to buy a new truck if you have the work for it. Now, back to smaller barges...

sparks_190e

12,738 posts

213 months

Thursday 21st May 2020
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harrykul said:
That c140 as is back up btw.... And I think that it's more money!!!!
Unbelievable, I hope those images are shared all over the web!

On another barge related note I've aqquired a few more bits for my 190e from work, including the very last but one coolant temperature sensor in my part of the world, as it is newly NLA. We have one left. We won't be getting any more. Although they've been sat on the shelf for over a year!

Also worth noting that my 190e is much better on fuel since I've had the thermostat and vacuum leak sorted. I did 220 miles to half a tank where before it was about 160-170. Nothing has changed about my journey. I'm on for near 400 miles out of this tank, something I've never achieved before. Standard 55 litre tank.

Edited by sparks_190e on Thursday 21st May 18:38

LetsTryAgain

2,904 posts

73 months

Thursday 21st May 2020
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JOB2.5-16 said:
Better than the DAFs we run, but DAF parts are much more reasonable and after sales is much better than the German brands
DAF genuinely pride themselves on their after service and DAF AID.

JOB2.5-16

403 posts

72 months

Thursday 21st May 2020
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sparks_190e said:
Unbelievable, I hope those images are shared all over the web!

including the very last but one coolant temperature sensor in my part of the world, as it is newly NLA. We have one left. We won't be getting any more. Although they've been sat on the shelf for over a year!

Edited by sparks_190e on Thursday 21st May 18:38
WHAT?! I replaced this just recently on my 2.5-16. I didn’t realise it was soon to be made NLA.

A vital replacement part for the M102 engine obviously as it controls the electro-magnetic fan clutch. This is a commonly failing part and leads directly to overheating and head gaskets blowing. If that’s out of production it spells a potential cull.

sparks_190e

12,738 posts

213 months

Thursday 21st May 2020
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JOB2.5-16 said:
sparks_190e said:
Unbelievable, I hope those images are shared all over the web!

including the very last but one coolant temperature sensor in my part of the world, as it is newly NLA. We have one left. We won't be getting any more. Although they've been sat on the shelf for over a year!

Edited by sparks_190e on Thursday 21st May 18:38
WHAT?! I replaced this just recently on my 2.5-16. I didn’t realise it was soon to be made NLA.

A vital replacement part for the M102 engine obviously as it controls the electro-magnetic fan clutch. This is a commonly failing part and leads directly to overheating and head gaskets blowing. If that’s out of production it spells a potential cull.
I think you mean the fan switch, which is different. They are still available.

The coolant temperature sensor is for the ignition. It controls the fuel mix for start up, failure of this sensor often leads to high revving at idle and hard starts.

Edited by sparks_190e on Thursday 21st May 18:59

ian316

4,150 posts

105 months

Thursday 21st May 2020
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LetsTryAgain said:
JOB2.5-16 said:
Better than the DAFs we run, but DAF parts are much more reasonable and after sales is much better than the German brands
DAF genuinely pride themselves on their after service and DAF AID.
Merc actros are good apart from the gearbox the hesitation pulling out is horrible, Scania are great the full spec cabs are the best out there but like you say DAF after sales service is brilliant now back to cars smile

sparks_190e

12,738 posts

213 months

Thursday 21st May 2020
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The coolant temperature sensor


JOB2.5-16

403 posts

72 months

Thursday 21st May 2020
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sparks_190e said:
The coolant temperature sensor

Thank god for that. I read that a bit quickly and jumped to conclusions! Bloody pressure back to normal now.

sparks_190e

12,738 posts

213 months

Thursday 21st May 2020
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JOB2.5-16 said:
sparks_190e said:
The coolant temperature sensor

Thank god for that. I read that a bit quickly and jumped to conclusions! Bloody pressure back to normal now.
If I recall you purchased the part from the dealer I work at? Was that you? Feel free to message me if you need any parts or want to know availability. I'll do my best to assist!

JOB2.5-16

403 posts

72 months

Thursday 21st May 2020
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ian316 said:
LetsTryAgain said:
JOB2.5-16 said:
Better than the DAFs we run, but DAF parts are much more reasonable and after sales is much better than the German brands
DAF genuinely pride themselves on their after service and DAF AID.
Merc actros are good apart from the gearbox the hesitation pulling out is horrible, Scania are great the full spec cabs are the best out there but like you say DAF after sales service is brilliant now back to cars smile
We had problems with the Mercedes transmission when it was new, it was going in to limp mode due to a pressure overload or something in the casing. It has since had a breather modification and has been fine since. You can’t argue with Scania’s reputation and an 8 wheeler is still available with a manual transmission and drum brakes all round which is ideal for quarry and site work.

JOB2.5-16

403 posts

72 months

Thursday 21st May 2020
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sparks_190e said:
JOB2.5-16 said:
sparks_190e said:
The coolant temperature sensor

Thank god for that. I read that a bit quickly and jumped to conclusions! Bloody pressure back to normal now.
If I recall you purchased the part from the dealer I work at? Was that you? Feel free to message me if you need any parts or want to know availability. I'll do my best to assist!
No I bought the parts to from MB Chesterfield last year but only fitted them when we serviced it this year. I had a fuel pump relay and OVP relay from you though.

Also keep your eyes peeled for an artic load of W124 parts with my name on that should be landing soon! Haha

CAPP0

19,589 posts

203 months

Thursday 21st May 2020
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JOB2.5-16 said:
Forfeiting a £100 deposit
I may be wrong but isn't it illegal to knowingly sell a dangerous vehicle, regardless of whether you're private or trade? I'm rather surprised he wouldn't refund you.

It almost feels like some sort of authority needs alerting to that, if for nothing more than to avert a fatality or other disaster. Don't know who though. Something like DVSA?

TyrannosauRoss Lex

35,084 posts

212 months

Thursday 21st May 2020
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CAPP0 said:
JOB2.5-16 said:
Forfeiting a £100 deposit
I may be wrong but isn't it illegal to knowingly sell a dangerous vehicle, regardless of whether you're private or trade? I'm rather surprised he wouldn't refund you.

It almost feels like some sort of authority needs alerting to that, if for nothing more than to avert a fatality or other disaster. Don't know who though. Something like DVSA?
It's not illegal to sell a vehicle that's dangerous as far as I'm aware, certainly not as a private buyer. If you express the vehicle as fit for purpose and safe, then that is illegal. I think.

Zonergem

1,368 posts

92 months

Thursday 21st May 2020
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Although MB might be rendering that coolant temperature sensor NLA I'm sure I have one like it from Bosch for an M103 cylinder car (with Bosch KE-Jetronic fuelling) so I'd hope there's still something being produced or stocked.


bolidemichael

13,866 posts

201 months

Thursday 21st May 2020
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In other news, barge is coming along! No Tobinen-style delays in this bodyshop...








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