Best smoker barges 1-5 large [Vol 16]

[ShampooEfficient]

Usget said:

I'd like an F10. For me they're still "new cars".

I wonder what the difference is mechanically between the N53b30 in the 523 vs the 528, or whether it's just a chip detune in the 523? 250+bhp would be plenty in a nice wagon like that.

I fear they never did a manual with a big petrol engine? Which is a shame because that's my preference...

[anonymous-user]

ShampooEfficient said:

I fear they never did a manual with a big petrol engine? Which is a shame because that's my preference...

I think 2 years or so back we had a really boggo spec 528i manual touring in the thread. Vaguely remember it had those auburn seats too?

Last NASP straight six 5 series, or possibly BMW of any sort? I wonder if the turbo I4 528i that replaced it can even match it's real world economy figures? I've always managed to get really great economy out of the straight six BMWs for their power and size, and never managed to get anything but disappointing figures from the downsized heavily boosted four cylinder engines everything has now.

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Krikkit said:

728 days later said:

Presumably the issues associated with this particular engine shouldn’t have materialised yet? Looks very nice and clean indeed and exactly the sort of fastidious ownership one would like to buy off. Ventilated/cooled seats too!

Not comfort seats though, which is a negative.

Seems like a good car to buy and use sparingly for a few years until the E65 is leaving the doldrums.

I this is the key to an E65, and probably why there are a lot still for sale, limited use every now and again

[Krikkit]

tobinen said:

XJ40 Sovereign (unsure if this is the 3.6 or 4.0), recent paintwork, low mileage, no leaper, headlining OK, due diligence required - offers on £3,000

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/28929784...

That looks bloody lovely. One day very soon we'll be wondering where all the cheap XJ40s went.

[ian316]

Krikkit said:

tobinen said:

XJ40 Sovereign (unsure if this is the 3.6 or 4.0), recent paintwork, low mileage, no leaper, headlining OK, due diligence required - offers on £3,000

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/28929784...

That looks bloody lovely. One day very soon we'll be wondering where all the cheap XJ40s went.

Your not wrong prices are creeping up, or were precovid it just needs carefully looking at the underneath

[ShampooEfficient]

stickleback123 said:

I think 2 years or so back we had a really boggo spec 528i manual touring in the thread. Vaguely remember it had those auburn seats too?

Last NASP straight six 5 series, or possibly BMW of any sort? I wonder if the turbo I4 528i that replaced it can even match it's real world economy figures? I've always managed to get really great economy out of the straight six BMWs for their power and size, and never managed to get anything but disappointing figures from the downsized heavily boosted four cylinder engines everything has now.

The last E39 I drove was a 530d with something ridiculous like 300k miles on, I forget exactly how many. It was fairly well looked after but by no means enthusiast owned. And it still went, stopped and steered in a way my mate's 12-plate 3er just couldn't match. Feel. Missing from the new ones.

But then it appealed to my sentimental side, with the miles on it. I was genuinely gutted when it suffered some terminal failure a few months later.

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I'm a sucker for old mercs in this colour with ambers. I wonder what condition this 500sel is actually in? https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/35127928...

[olly755]

ShampooEfficient said:

190E collected from storage today. After a jump, started for the first time in six months and it's as if I'd put it away yesterday. Bloody lovely.

I taxed the Lexusses today after a lockdown layup. Some bugger appears to have ramped the RFL up in the meantime without telling me.

[ShampooEfficient]

olly755 said:

I taxed the Lexusses today after a lockdown layup. Some bugger appears to have ramped the RFL up in the meantime without telling me.

I don't actually understand why we still have such an archaic system. I grant you, we have a silly number of cars in the household but having to remember to SORN and tax them at the beginning and end of the month is a pain. I don't think most people would notice an extra 1p/litre on fuel duty instead... and by my back of a fag packet maths*, they'd probably make more money overall...

• Which I am not claiming to be accurate

[phil_cardiff]

drophead said:

slicknic said:

SpeckledJim said:

I think this is a significantly nicer car than the S212. But the diesels have terrible reputations for frailty. I don't know if that's fully merited or not.

All the diesels are prone to issues with the EGR cooler. I had this happen on my F10 530d At 4 years old and 70k miles. It also melted the inlet manifold as part of the same fault. It would have cost around £3k to fix, but BMW did agree to pay for the parts. Labour was £600.

There is a recall for that fault now.

Edited by slicknic on Monday 1st June 23:25

It's disappointing that they can't get their diesels right as even the 4 cylinder ones tend to be a little less grumbly than competitors. BMW just can't engineer an EGR system that is reliable. I thought they'd have learnt from the N47 etc era but the B series (latest) engines look to be suffering as well.

Anyway, enough about the devil's juice.

In a similar vein to W00DY's post, here's a delightfully all caps ad (there's a lot of "FULLY LOADED!!") for a 22k mile 745i with a rather clean MOT history for thread max with a fair and firm haggle:



https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/202...

Edited by drophead on Tuesday 2nd June 13:47

I'm not sure BMW are that hot on petrol engines these days either. Plenty of tails of woe about timing chain death rattles etc.

[Bonefish Blues]

Rather special V70, anyone?

https://www.volvoforums.org.uk/showthread.php?t=30...

[CharlesdeGaulle]

stickleback123 said:

I truly do not believe that 21st century BMW give a damn about how well their cars last past maybe 8 years - two years past the point that the 2nd in house financed owner has moved on to the next one. If it has the performance, economy, technocrap, and a decent drive to get it out of the showroom door two or three times over it's first six years what do they care about knackered EGR valves and other failing overengineered and underdeveloped technology when they are 8-10 years old? We're not their customers, our needs are utterly irrelevant past maintaining some residual value in the asset when it finally leaves the dealer (and in house finance) network at 6 ish years old.

The relative conservativism you see from the likes of Toyota and Lexus, despite having the development budget to match all the technology in a BMW/Mercedes/Audi, is because they sell lots of cars to private owners who keep them for >ten years, so it has to be something that can last. Who on earth would buy a Toyota or Lexus if it was as poorly engineered and short lived as a BMW, Audi, or TATA Jaguar?

I was fascinated to recently learn that the European "premium" manufacturers are the only ones who really sell any volume of cars via PCP in Australia, everyone else does it over 5-6 year HP finance and people tend to keep their cars for a long time. Not an ownership model the Europeans can support anymore. Similarly in the US hardly anybody runs them new other than on a lease because they're widely considered to be an absolute nightmare out of warranty.

Good post. Not sure I can disagree with any of that.

[r129sl]

Have we had this one yet. Tatty bodywork but what a spec.

https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C1224599

[r129sl]

ShampooEfficient said:

I don't actually understand why we still have such an archaic system. I grant you, we have a silly number of cars in the household but having to remember to SORN and tax them at the beginning and end of the month is a pain. I don't think most people would notice an extra 1p/litre on fuel duty instead... and by my back of a fag packet maths*, they'd probably make more money overall...

• Which I am not claiming to be accurate

I don't disagree but it would have to be more like 10p a litre: I used 2,110 litres in my 124 over the last year and 15,687 miles; in the G the annual rate is 4,487 litres, 19,792 miles. The savings in administration would be huge and they could row the fking environmental boat to their heart's content, too.

Edit: car tax gives them a chance to enforce MOT and insurance requirements, I suppose.

Edited by r129sl on Tuesday 2nd June 22:30

[Krikkit]

r129sl said:

Have we had this one yet. Tatty bodywork but what a spec.

https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C1224599

Seems like a bargain with all those bits having been replaced - get a decent paintshop to sort the rot and give it a good seeing to, you've got a sorted w124 in the best mechanical spec, wanting only for a light interior for 5 bags easily.

[r129sl]

Matching Contis all round, a good sign...

[marine boy]

drophead said:

It's disappointing that they can't get their diesels right as even the 4 cylinder ones tend to be a little less grumbly than competitors. BMW just can't engineer an EGR system that is reliable. I thought they'd have learnt from the N47 etc era but the B series (latest) engines look to be suffering as well.

Anyway, enough about the devil's juice.

In a similar vein to W00DY's post, here's a delightfully all caps ad (there's a lot of "FULLY LOADED!!") for a 22k mile 745i with a rather clean MOT history for thread max with a fair and firm haggle:



https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/202...

Edited by drophead on Tuesday 2nd June 13:47

No need for haggling as it's on Facebook for £5k

[cornershop]

E38 750 with some interior

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/184312250901

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cornershop said:

E38 750 with some interior

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/184312250901

We’ve had this before I think, cheaper now though. Love the vacuum cleaner hose on the 7th pic

[anonymous-user]

Some of these cars remind me of 'dating' on Tinder; you go back every few months or a year because it's time for a change and you see a few of the same familiar faces doing the rounds over and over, with the same photos you first saw in 2015.