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si_xsi said:
gobuddygo said:
Can someone explain what these are please?
I know i'm an old b*gger who has never had a new car so might be something obvious.
They are tweeters, presumably quite loud, so the pre-programmed German authoritative voice can be heard telling you to stop playing on your built in lap-top whilst driving... I wonder what proportion of accidents are caused by people taking their eyes off the road to fiddle with all this tech, seems unnecessary and OTT. Anyway i digress.. I know i'm an old b*gger who has never had a new car so might be something obvious.
This is the interior of the latest Merc trucks, yes that is your mirror linked to a external camera doesn't inspire me but my mate loves his, I worry about the picture freezing dbdb said:
W00DY said:
I quite liked the interior of the W222 in the right spec, but the new one is just s
t.
Outside from the front, you could slap on some oversized kidney grilles and convince me it was the new 7 series.
Gosh, that's quite remarkably horrible.t.Outside from the front, you could slap on some oversized kidney grilles and convince me it was the new 7 series.
t these days. What would you buy given all the tea in China? The only modern I'd go near is a Lexus LC500.The S-Class: devoid of confidence and imagination, the makers have just hoyed crap at it, apparently oblivious to the over-laden mish-mash that is the result. Who thought blue ambient lighting (I know, it can be set to a different one of 3million shades in 48 zones of the car) would look good with black wood would look good with tan leather would look good with fine lined inlays would look good with diamond quilting (diamond quilting really is the automotive equivalent of Burberry f
king checks, anyone who specifies diamond quilting should be taken outside and shot in the head) would look good with those pewter-plastic Bumsucker shaped-like-a-squashed-dog-st speakers (of which there must by 18 powered by a ten million watt hifi amplifier) would look good with last year's iPad clagged onto the dash?I don't really care for it.
This is what a car needs inside:
An accelerator pedal
A brake pedal
A parking brake pedal
Seats
Controls to adjust the position of the seats
A steering wheel
A gear selector: P-R-N-D
A speedometer
A tachometer
A fuel gauge
A water temperature gauge
An oil temperature gauge
A light switch that includes an "off" position
A switch to operate the indicators (on or off, not touch and they flash three times)
A switch to operate the wipers (can be the same switch as the indicators)
A headlamp flasher switch (ditto)
A hazard warning light switch
A control for the near side mirror (if fitted)
A rear view mirror (in low power versions)
A button with a '2' on it for Radio 2
A button with a '4' on it for Radio 4
A volume knob for the radio
A temperature selector knob for heater/air conditioner
A rear window de-mister switch
A button for electrocuting the occupants of the rear seats
Handles/latches for opening the doors
A switch for turning the seat heaters on
Switches or crank handles for lowering and raising the windows
An interior light (with switch)
I can't think of anything else. The rest of it is unnecessary ste that never gets used and adds nothing to the sum total of existence.
An accelerator pedal
A brake pedal
A parking brake pedal
Seats
Controls to adjust the position of the seats
A steering wheel
A gear selector: P-R-N-D
A speedometer
A tachometer
A fuel gauge
A water temperature gauge
An oil temperature gauge
A light switch that includes an "off" position
A switch to operate the indicators (on or off, not touch and they flash three times)
A switch to operate the wipers (can be the same switch as the indicators)
A headlamp flasher switch (ditto)
A hazard warning light switch
A control for the near side mirror (if fitted)
A rear view mirror (in low power versions)
A button with a '2' on it for Radio 2
A button with a '4' on it for Radio 4
A volume knob for the radio
A temperature selector knob for heater/air conditioner
A rear window de-mister switch
A button for electrocuting the occupants of the rear seats
Handles/latches for opening the doors
A switch for turning the seat heaters on
Switches or crank handles for lowering and raising the windows
An interior light (with switch)
I can't think of anything else. The rest of it is unnecessary s
te that never gets used and adds nothing to the sum total of existence.r129sl said:
Motoring is st these days. What would you buy given all the tea in China? The only modern I'd go near is a Lexus LC500.
The S-Class: devoid of confidence and imagination, the makers have just hoyed crap at it, apparently oblivious to the over-laden mish-mash that is the result. Who thought blue ambient lighting (I know, it can be set to a different one of 3million shades in 48 zones of the car) would look good with black wood would look good with tan leather would look good with fine lined inlays would look good with diamond quilting (diamond quilting really is the automotive equivalent of Burberry fking checks, anyone who specifies diamond quilting should be taken outside and shot in the head) would look good with those pewter-plastic Bumsucker shaped-like-a-squashed-dog-st speakers (of which there must by 18 powered by a ten million watt hifi amplifier) would look good with last year's iPad clagged onto the dash?
I don't really care for it.
t these days. What would you buy given all the tea in China? The only modern I'd go near is a Lexus LC500.The S-Class: devoid of confidence and imagination, the makers have just hoyed crap at it, apparently oblivious to the over-laden mish-mash that is the result. Who thought blue ambient lighting (I know, it can be set to a different one of 3million shades in 48 zones of the car) would look good with black wood would look good with tan leather would look good with fine lined inlays would look good with diamond quilting (diamond quilting really is the automotive equivalent of Burberry f
king checks, anyone who specifies diamond quilting should be taken outside and shot in the head) would look good with those pewter-plastic Bumsucker shaped-like-a-squashed-dog-st speakers (of which there must by 18 powered by a ten million watt hifi amplifier) would look good with last year's iPad clagged onto the dash?I don't really care for it.
9.5/10 from the panel.I really want some body to legislate against HVAC controls being on a touchscreen. I refuse to buy any car that has that. It’s a safety thing.
Mood/Ambient lighting is just b
ks too. If it’s dark outside, I want as little light in the car as possible for best vision, that’s a safety thing too.(oh, and ‘hoyed’ not heard that for years - I need to get back to the N.E. more often!)
r129sl said:
dbdb said:
W00DY said:
I quite liked the interior of the W222 in the right spec, but the new one is just st.
Outside from the front, you could slap on some oversized kidney grilles and convince me it was the new 7 series.
Gosh, that's quite remarkably horrible.t.Outside from the front, you could slap on some oversized kidney grilles and convince me it was the new 7 series.
t these days. What would you buy given all the tea in China? The only modern I'd go near is a Lexus LC500.The S-Class: devoid of confidence and imagination, the makers have just hoyed crap at it, apparently oblivious to the over-laden mish-mash that is the result. Who thought blue ambient lighting (I know, it can be set to a different one of 3million shades in 48 zones of the car) would look good with black wood would look good with tan leather would look good with fine lined inlays would look good with diamond quilting (diamond quilting really is the automotive equivalent of Burberry f
king checks, anyone who specifies diamond quilting should be taken outside and shot in the head) would look good with those pewter-plastic Bumsucker shaped-like-a-squashed-dog-st speakers (of which there must by 18 powered by a ten million watt hifi amplifier) would look good with last year's iPad clagged onto the dash?I don't really care for it.
OK, I'll bite.
A bunch of losers - who aren't the target market, who will never buy a new S Class, who will probably never buy a new car, who are wedded to the past in their choices and tastes, and who will bh to their online chums in their Barge echo chamber with their pathetic budget that represents end-of life value - in might-not-like-the-new-super-saloon-shocker.
MB won't give a flying fk. You lot we are irrelevant. We're not in China, or Asia, or the US. We bottom feeders have no influence on the design of cars at all.
When the 140 S Class was launched there were similar cries of derision, but now we all rather like it; some of our number own them; if nothing else we acknowledge its place in the automotive pantheon.
This will be a marketing triumph and a flagship tour-de-force. As others have said, it may be the last ICE S Class so that alone will give it some cred in hindsight, I betcha.
Do I like it; no not much. Would I buy one; most definitely not. Do I want it; fk yes.
A bunch of losers - who aren't the target market, who will never buy a new S Class, who will probably never buy a new car, who are wedded to the past in their choices and tastes, and who will b
h to their online chums in their Barge echo chamber with their pathetic budget that represents end-of life value - in might-not-like-the-new-super-saloon-shocker. MB won't give a flying f
k. When the 140 S Class was launched there were similar cries of derision, but now we all rather like it; some of our number own them; if nothing else we acknowledge its place in the automotive pantheon.
This will be a marketing triumph and a flagship tour-de-force. As others have said, it may be the last ICE S Class so that alone will give it some cred in hindsight, I betcha.
Do I like it; no not much. Would I buy one; most definitely not. Do I want it; f
k yes. BlueMR2 said:
Unfortunately the prices of most cars i was looking at pre covid are at least £1k more expensive.
Guess i'll just keep looking until Macron links to a cheap V12.
For the first, ain't that the truth. Houses, loo roll, skanky E39's are all far more expensive than they were. Maddening.Guess i'll just keep looking until Macron links to a cheap V12.
The second sounds like a thread challenge tbh. I'm sure we can find V12's for 3.5k. I'm just not sure you'd want them, they'd function as an actual vehicle, or both.
Examples, over budget,
CL600, 4650, tat tints and grille aside appears proper VFM
https://www.gumtree.com/p/mercedes-benz/mercedes-c...
XJS. Shed. 4500. I'm sure ten minutes ago this much cash bought a good one...
https://www.gumtree.com/p/jaguar/jaguar-xjs-conver...
CharlesdeGaulle said:
OK, I'll bite.
A bunch of losers - who aren't the target market, who will never buy a new S Class, who will probably never buy a new car, who are wedded to the past in their choices and tastes, and who will bh to their online chums in their Barge echo chamber with their pathetic budget that represents end-of life value - in might-not-like-the-new-super-saloon-shocker.
MB won't give a flying fk. You lot we are irrelevant. We're not in China, or Asia, or the US. We bottom feeders have no influence on the design of cars at all.
When the 140 S Class was launched there were similar cries of derision, but now we all rather like it; some of our number own them; if nothing else we acknowledge its place in the automotive pantheon.
This will be a marketing triumph and a flagship tour-de-force. As others have said, it may be the last ICE S Class so that alone will give it some cred in hindsight, I betcha.
Do I like it; no not much. Would I buy one; most definitely not. Do I want it; fk yes.
Burn him!A bunch of losers - who aren't the target market, who will never buy a new S Class, who will probably never buy a new car, who are wedded to the past in their choices and tastes, and who will b
h to their online chums in their Barge echo chamber with their pathetic budget that represents end-of life value - in might-not-like-the-new-super-saloon-shocker. MB won't give a flying f
k. When the 140 S Class was launched there were similar cries of derision, but now we all rather like it; some of our number own them; if nothing else we acknowledge its place in the automotive pantheon.
This will be a marketing triumph and a flagship tour-de-force. As others have said, it may be the last ICE S Class so that alone will give it some cred in hindsight, I betcha.
Do I like it; no not much. Would I buy one; most definitely not. Do I want it; f
k yes. r129sl said:
CharlesdeGaulle said:
OK, I'll bite.
A bunch of losers - who aren't the target market, who will never buy a new S Class, who will probably never buy a new car, who are wedded to the past in their choices and tastes, and who will bh to their online chums in their Barge echo chamber with their pathetic budget that represents end-of life value - in might-not-like-the-new-super-saloon-shocker.
MB won't give a flying fk. You lot we are irrelevant. We're not in China, or Asia, or the US. We bottom feeders have no influence on the design of cars at all.
When the 140 S Class was launched there were similar cries of derision, but now we all rather like it; some of our number own them; if nothing else we acknowledge its place in the automotive pantheon.
This will be a marketing triumph and a flagship tour-de-force. As others have said, it may be the last ICE S Class so that alone will give it some cred in hindsight, I betcha.
Do I like it; no not much. Would I buy one; most definitely not. Do I want it; fk yes.
Burn him!A bunch of losers - who aren't the target market, who will never buy a new S Class, who will probably never buy a new car, who are wedded to the past in their choices and tastes, and who will b
h to their online chums in their Barge echo chamber with their pathetic budget that represents end-of life value - in might-not-like-the-new-super-saloon-shocker. MB won't give a flying f
k. When the 140 S Class was launched there were similar cries of derision, but now we all rather like it; some of our number own them; if nothing else we acknowledge its place in the automotive pantheon.
This will be a marketing triumph and a flagship tour-de-force. As others have said, it may be the last ICE S Class so that alone will give it some cred in hindsight, I betcha.
Do I like it; no not much. Would I buy one; most definitely not. Do I want it; f
k yes. And just to add, of course launches and press releases aren't about showing the models people will actually buy, or the boring unseen technical advances. They're about shock and awe. About generating comment and outrage.
Akin, at least in my sick little mind, to the fuss over the BMW grille or to the mild revulsion at your first sight of a vagina.
Akin, at least in my sick little mind, to the fuss over the BMW grille or to the mild revulsion at your first sight of a vagina.
CharlesdeGaulle said:
OK, I'll bite.
A bunch of losers - who aren't the target market, who will never buy a new S Class, who will probably never buy a new car, who are wedded to the past in their choices and tastes, and who will bh to their online chums in their Barge echo chamber with their pathetic budget that represents end-of life value - in might-not-like-the-new-super-saloon-shocker.
MB won't give a flying fk. You lot we are irrelevant. We're not in China, or Asia, or the US. We bottom feeders have no influence on the design of cars at all.
When the 140 S Class was launched there were similar cries of derision, but now we all rather like it; some of our number own them; if nothing else we acknowledge its place in the automotive pantheon.
This will be a marketing triumph and a flagship tour-de-force. As others have said, it may be the last ICE S Class so that alone will give it some cred in hindsight, I betcha.
Do I like it; no not much. Would I buy one; most definitely not. Do I want it; fk yes.
Well aren't you a happy fellow today. A bunch of losers - who aren't the target market, who will never buy a new S Class, who will probably never buy a new car, who are wedded to the past in their choices and tastes, and who will b
h to their online chums in their Barge echo chamber with their pathetic budget that represents end-of life value - in might-not-like-the-new-super-saloon-shocker. MB won't give a flying f
k. When the 140 S Class was launched there were similar cries of derision, but now we all rather like it; some of our number own them; if nothing else we acknowledge its place in the automotive pantheon.
This will be a marketing triumph and a flagship tour-de-force. As others have said, it may be the last ICE S Class so that alone will give it some cred in hindsight, I betcha.
Do I like it; no not much. Would I buy one; most definitely not. Do I want it; f
k yes. Macron said:
The second sounds like a thread challenge tbh. I'm sure we can find V12's for 3.5k. I'm just not sure you'd want them, they'd function as an actual vehicle, or both.
If you're happy sitting on the wrong side, welcome to the bork parade...Phaeton 6.0 W12
https://suchen.mobile.de/fahrzeuge/details.html?id...
750i
https://suchen.mobile.de/fahrzeuge/details.html?id...
CL600
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RHD Series 3!
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Edited by Dapster on Wednesday 2nd September 21:51
That new Merc S-Class is absolutely horrendous in every way possible. That is my nightmare in a car. What annoys me so much now is that technology seems to be the biggest thing in designing a car. There's no way I will be buying one of those, not even when it's a 5k barge in 10 years.
As R129SL just said, keeping things down to the basics and simple and having the things you really need are important, not some stupid huge laptop screen at the side of the wheel. I'd have thought having a huge touch screen like that is a huge distraction, it's the same as touching a mobile phone while driving - make those screens illegal I say. Useless really.
I want cars specced like what 129 says. Hence I wont buy anything newer than 2003 and some of those are st too. Every single premium new car now is riddled with computers. I can't wait to see them all fk up. I find myself actually despising all new cars produced by every manufacturer for at least 10 years. There's not one single new car on the planet I yearn to own regardless of money now. Not one, honestly.
Had a stter weekend anniversary - my new ( old ) 300SEL ended up on the back of a truck, failed fuel pump, leaving us stranded in Harrogate. Had to get one of the guys to bring another car so we could crack on with celebrating ( well, not sure about celebrating nowadays ).... 90 minutes later, a LHD million miler ivory german W124 250D taxi gets dropped off on the trailer FFS ( the first car at the warehouse door apparently - they couldn't find the key for the pagoda I wanted allegedly) - thanks for that. Of all the things i could have been knocking about in with the wife over the weekend I end up with that and it still has the original black and yellow taxi sign fitted on the roof!! So if you saw 2 idiots in 70's wigs and dark sunglasses around Yorkshire and Northumberland in a strange looking taxi, it was me and her. Oh and they stuck a ' just married ' sticker on the back of the car on the bumper which I didn't even notice. Tossers!!!
As R129SL just said, keeping things down to the basics and simple and having the things you really need are important, not some stupid huge laptop screen at the side of the wheel. I'd have thought having a huge touch screen like that is a huge distraction, it's the same as touching a mobile phone while driving - make those screens illegal I say. Useless really.
I want cars specced like what 129 says. Hence I wont buy anything newer than 2003 and some of those are s
t too. Every single premium new car now is riddled with computers. I can't wait to see them all fk up. I find myself actually despising all new cars produced by every manufacturer for at least 10 years. There's not one single new car on the planet I yearn to own regardless of money now. Not one, honestly.Had a s
tter weekend anniversary - my new ( old ) 300SEL ended up on the back of a truck, failed fuel pump, leaving us stranded in Harrogate. Had to get one of the guys to bring another car so we could crack on with celebrating ( well, not sure about celebrating nowadays ).... 90 minutes later, a LHD million miler ivory german W124 250D taxi gets dropped off on the trailer FFS ( the first car at the warehouse door apparently - they couldn't find the key for the pagoda I wanted allegedly) - thanks for that. Of all the things i could have been knocking about in with the wife over the weekend I end up with that and it still has the original black and yellow taxi sign fitted on the roof!! So if you saw 2 idiots in 70's wigs and dark sunglasses around Yorkshire and Northumberland in a strange looking taxi, it was me and her. Oh and they stuck a ' just married ' sticker on the back of the car on the bumper which I didn't even notice. Tossers!!!Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff