Ask a car salesman anything...anything at all (Vol. 2).

Ask a car salesman anything...anything at all (Vol. 2).

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Deerfoot

4,903 posts

185 months

Saturday 23rd January 2021
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jason61c said:
Any toyota dealers on here want to discuss selling one?
I think ferrisbeuller is a Toyota salesman, it might be worth tracking him down...

loskie

5,260 posts

121 months

Saturday 23rd January 2021
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could be his day off!

Deerfoot

4,903 posts

185 months

Saturday 23rd January 2021
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loskie said:
could be his day off!
Boom boom.

loskie

5,260 posts

121 months

Saturday 23rd January 2021
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Deerfoot said:
loskie said:
could be his day off!
Boom boom.
someone had to say it

Save Ferris

2,686 posts

214 months

Saturday 23rd January 2021
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Deerfoot said:
jason61c said:
Any toyota dealers on here want to discuss selling one?
I think ferrisbeuller is a Toyota salesman, it might be worth tracking him down...
It is actually my day off!
Feel free to PM me if you’d like any help smile

spreadsheet monkey

4,545 posts

228 months

Saturday 23rd January 2021
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jason61c said:
Blakewater said:
It's a bit more money, but Toyota are launching a new Highlander in the UK which looks a little more upmarket and plush than a Land Cruiser.

https://www.toyota.co.uk/new-cars/highlander/
Its actually a bit less money than the top spec landcruiser(list price). `Its the landcruiser I'd prefer.

Any toyota dealers on here want to discuss selling one?
Landcruiser is the heavy duty off-roader, while the Highlander is more like a giant RAV4. The Highlander is a big seller in the USA.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Highlander


jason61c

5,978 posts

175 months

Saturday 23rd January 2021
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spreadsheet monkey said:
Landcruiser is the heavy duty off-roader, while the Highlander is more like a giant RAV4. The Highlander is a big seller in the USA.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Highlander
If I was looking at a highlander, I think i'd get the lexus rx450h.

Sheepshanks

32,814 posts

120 months

Saturday 23rd January 2021
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jason61c said:
spreadsheet monkey said:
Landcruiser is the heavy duty off-roader, while the Highlander is more like a giant RAV4. The Highlander is a big seller in the USA.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Highlander
If I was looking at a highlander, I think i'd get the lexus rx450h.
UK pricing is mental - it's a ~$30K vehicle in the US.

Deerfoot

4,903 posts

185 months

Saturday 23rd January 2021
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Save Ferris said:
Deerfoot said:
jason61c said:
Any toyota dealers on here want to discuss selling one?
I think ferrisbeuller is a Toyota salesman, it might be worth tracking him down...
It is actually my day off!
Feel free to PM me if you’d like any help smile
My mistake, I remembered a Ferris Beuller reference somewhere!

jamoor

14,506 posts

216 months

Saturday 23rd January 2021
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Blakewater said:
jason61c said:
Any Toyota dealers on here?

Looking at a land cruiser, anything to look for? Anyone driven the one with a revised engine?
It's a bit more money, but Toyota are launching a new Highlander in the UK which looks a little more upmarket and plush than a Land Cruiser.

https://www.toyota.co.uk/new-cars/highlander/
Which market is this car going for exactly? I just don't see it.

I guess it will be an oddball like the camry that they launched. Noone will buy these two models and they will become future bargain barges.

AmitG

3,300 posts

161 months

Saturday 23rd January 2021
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jamoor said:
Which market is this car going for exactly? I just don't see it.

I guess it will be an oddball like the camry that they launched. Noone will buy these two models and they will become future bargain barges.
The new Camry is an interesting one. I bought one, and I love it (would give the reasons but don't want to derail the thread). The dealer said that Toyota brought only 500 Camry into the UK last year and they sold much quicker than expected so they are going to bring more. The main reason they brought it over was that customers wanted a proper upgrade from the Avensis.

Highlander has the potential to do well. I can't think of another hybrid 7-seater on sale now that the Prius+ is gone. There must be families who want 7 seats and want Toyota reliability. But I agree that the pricing is too high.

talksthetorque

10,815 posts

136 months

Saturday 23rd January 2021
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AmitG said:
jamoor said:
Which market is this car going for exactly? I just don't see it.

I guess it will be an oddball like the camry that they launched. Noone will buy these two models and they will become future bargain barges.
The new Camry is an interesting one. I bought one, and I love it (would give the reasons but don't want to derail the thread). The dealer said that Toyota brought only 500 Camry into the UK last year and they sold much quicker than expected so they are going to bring more. The main reason they brought it over was that customers wanted a proper upgrade from the Avensis.

Highlander has the potential to do well. I can't think of another hybrid 7-seater on sale now that the Prius+ is gone. There must be families who want 7 seats and want Toyota reliability. But I agree that the pricing is too high.
Kia Sorrento, Lexus RX.

But they're up against the Highlander and.........there can be only one.

BrabusMog

20,184 posts

187 months

Saturday 23rd January 2021
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Can’t imagine many people wanting to pay 50g’s for a Toyota.

Countdown

39,986 posts

197 months

Sunday 24th January 2021
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How do dealerships decide what price to put on a used car? Is there some central pricing guide? Do you look at what other franchise dealers are charging?

Just curious because I've been window shopping for Mercedes GLCs and I've seen an 65-plate with more mileage on sale for more than a 16-plate with lower mileage (and better trim level). Not by much (about £1k)

anonymous-user

55 months

Sunday 24th January 2021
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talksthetorque said:
Kia Sorrento, Lexus RX.

But they're up against the Highlander and.........there can be only one.
Few years ago most of the directors at my company had one of these as a company car due to the BIK tax on the PHEV. I would imagine that the charging cables were still wrapped in the plastic when the cars went back.

I can't imagine they are much cop as they all went for the Volvo equivalent come renewal time.



robsco

7,840 posts

177 months

Sunday 24th January 2021
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Countdown said:
How do dealerships decide what price to put on a used car? Is there some central pricing guide? Do you look at what other franchise dealers are charging?

Just curious because I've been window shopping for Mercedes GLCs and I've seen an 65-plate with more mileage on sale for more than a 16-plate with lower mileage (and better trim level). Not by much (about £1k)
Normally a dealer would use CAP as a guide to value a car as a part exchange. You’d then use CAP Clean as a base point from which to price the car on the forecourt. Naturally some cars are not as desirable as others, so this is a guide only.

For instance, an Audi main dealer may pay CAP Clean for an Audi part exchange and then, as a franchise dealer, be able to price from that. A non franchise dealer cannot do the same, he needs to be able to beat the Audi dealer on price if he wants to sell his car; therefore he either trims his margin from the Clean figure, or needs to buy the car for less. Of course, you would always look at what other cars are advertised for when pricing up a used car.

Pricing cars correctly isn’t an art, you’ve just got to have a fair knowledge of which cars are desirable and which cars aren’t, something that comes from experience. And of course, even then, you’re not always guaranteed to get it right!

dontfollowme

1,158 posts

234 months

Sunday 24th January 2021
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Is this last week of Jan going to help me secure a decent deal on an approved used VW? It's 2015 plate if that makes any difference.

Bemmer

1,107 posts

203 months

Sunday 24th January 2021
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robsco said:
Normally a dealer would use CAP as a guide to value a car as a part exchange. You’d then use CAP Clean as a base point from which to price the car on the forecourt. Naturally some cars are not as desirable as others, so this is a guide only.

For instance, an Audi main dealer may pay CAP Clean for an Audi part exchange and then, as a franchise dealer, be able to price from that. A non franchise dealer cannot do the same, he needs to be able to beat the Audi dealer on price if he wants to sell his car; therefore he either trims his margin from the Clean figure, or needs to buy the car for less. Of course, you would always look at what other cars are advertised for when pricing up a used car.

Pricing cars correctly isn’t an art, you’ve just got to have a fair knowledge of which cars are desirable and which cars aren’t, something that comes from experience. And of course, even then, you’re not always guaranteed to get it right!
Cap is used more for buying and referenced throughout the trade and Auctions. Selling is more reliant on Autotrader now especially for pricing stock retailing upto £50K.The price bands,Low,great,good,fair and high means the retailer really has no choice but to follow the market to which they dictate,Love it or Hate it Autotrader has the monopoly and the dealers can't ignore it so it doesn't matter what Cap says you can retail at it's what Autotrader tells you what you can ask for it.

buyer&seller

772 posts

179 months

Sunday 24th January 2021
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Bemmer said:
Cap is used more for buying and referenced throughout the trade and Auctions. Selling is more reliant on Autotrader now especially for pricing stock retailing upto £50K.The price bands,Low,great,good,fair and high means the retailer really has no choice but to follow the market to which they dictate,Love it or Hate it Autotrader has the monopoly and the dealers can't ignore it so it doesn't matter what Cap says you can retail at it's what Autotrader tells you what you can ask for it.
True enough, but when I was using Autotrader to advertise I'd use their retail price and work my margin back from there, so ignoring the CAP trade figure too, although I wasn't doing huge numbers.

robsco

7,840 posts

177 months

Sunday 24th January 2021
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Bemmer said:
Cap is used more for buying
The art of selling is in the buying.