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jason61c said:
Blakewater said:
It's a bit more money, but Toyota are launching a new Highlander in the UK which looks a little more upmarket and plush than a Land Cruiser.
https://www.toyota.co.uk/new-cars/highlander/
Its actually a bit less money than the top spec landcruiser(list price). `Its the landcruiser I'd prefer.https://www.toyota.co.uk/new-cars/highlander/
Any toyota dealers on here want to discuss selling one?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Highlander
spreadsheet monkey said:
Landcruiser is the heavy duty off-roader, while the Highlander is more like a giant RAV4. The Highlander is a big seller in the USA.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Highlander
If I was looking at a highlander, I think i'd get the lexus rx450h.https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Highlander
jason61c said:
spreadsheet monkey said:
Landcruiser is the heavy duty off-roader, while the Highlander is more like a giant RAV4. The Highlander is a big seller in the USA.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Highlander
If I was looking at a highlander, I think i'd get the lexus rx450h.https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Highlander
Save Ferris said:
Deerfoot said:
jason61c said:
Any toyota dealers on here want to discuss selling one?
I think ferrisbeuller is a Toyota salesman, it might be worth tracking him down...Feel free to PM me if you’d like any help
Blakewater said:
jason61c said:
Any Toyota dealers on here?
Looking at a land cruiser, anything to look for? Anyone driven the one with a revised engine?
It's a bit more money, but Toyota are launching a new Highlander in the UK which looks a little more upmarket and plush than a Land Cruiser.Looking at a land cruiser, anything to look for? Anyone driven the one with a revised engine?
https://www.toyota.co.uk/new-cars/highlander/
I guess it will be an oddball like the camry that they launched. Noone will buy these two models and they will become future bargain barges.
jamoor said:
Which market is this car going for exactly? I just don't see it.
I guess it will be an oddball like the camry that they launched. Noone will buy these two models and they will become future bargain barges.
The new Camry is an interesting one. I bought one, and I love it (would give the reasons but don't want to derail the thread). The dealer said that Toyota brought only 500 Camry into the UK last year and they sold much quicker than expected so they are going to bring more. The main reason they brought it over was that customers wanted a proper upgrade from the Avensis.I guess it will be an oddball like the camry that they launched. Noone will buy these two models and they will become future bargain barges.
Highlander has the potential to do well. I can't think of another hybrid 7-seater on sale now that the Prius+ is gone. There must be families who want 7 seats and want Toyota reliability. But I agree that the pricing is too high.
AmitG said:
jamoor said:
Which market is this car going for exactly? I just don't see it.
I guess it will be an oddball like the camry that they launched. Noone will buy these two models and they will become future bargain barges.
The new Camry is an interesting one. I bought one, and I love it (would give the reasons but don't want to derail the thread). The dealer said that Toyota brought only 500 Camry into the UK last year and they sold much quicker than expected so they are going to bring more. The main reason they brought it over was that customers wanted a proper upgrade from the Avensis.I guess it will be an oddball like the camry that they launched. Noone will buy these two models and they will become future bargain barges.
Highlander has the potential to do well. I can't think of another hybrid 7-seater on sale now that the Prius+ is gone. There must be families who want 7 seats and want Toyota reliability. But I agree that the pricing is too high.
But they're up against the Highlander and.........there can be only one.
How do dealerships decide what price to put on a used car? Is there some central pricing guide? Do you look at what other franchise dealers are charging?
Just curious because I've been window shopping for Mercedes GLCs and I've seen an 65-plate with more mileage on sale for more than a 16-plate with lower mileage (and better trim level). Not by much (about £1k)
Just curious because I've been window shopping for Mercedes GLCs and I've seen an 65-plate with more mileage on sale for more than a 16-plate with lower mileage (and better trim level). Not by much (about £1k)
talksthetorque said:
Kia Sorrento, Lexus RX.
But they're up against the Highlander and.........there can be only one.
Few years ago most of the directors at my company had one of these as a company car due to the BIK tax on the PHEV. I would imagine that the charging cables were still wrapped in the plastic when the cars went back.But they're up against the Highlander and.........there can be only one.
I can't imagine they are much cop as they all went for the Volvo equivalent come renewal time.
Countdown said:
How do dealerships decide what price to put on a used car? Is there some central pricing guide? Do you look at what other franchise dealers are charging?
Just curious because I've been window shopping for Mercedes GLCs and I've seen an 65-plate with more mileage on sale for more than a 16-plate with lower mileage (and better trim level). Not by much (about £1k)
Normally a dealer would use CAP as a guide to value a car as a part exchange. You’d then use CAP Clean as a base point from which to price the car on the forecourt. Naturally some cars are not as desirable as others, so this is a guide only. Just curious because I've been window shopping for Mercedes GLCs and I've seen an 65-plate with more mileage on sale for more than a 16-plate with lower mileage (and better trim level). Not by much (about £1k)
For instance, an Audi main dealer may pay CAP Clean for an Audi part exchange and then, as a franchise dealer, be able to price from that. A non franchise dealer cannot do the same, he needs to be able to beat the Audi dealer on price if he wants to sell his car; therefore he either trims his margin from the Clean figure, or needs to buy the car for less. Of course, you would always look at what other cars are advertised for when pricing up a used car.
Pricing cars correctly isn’t an art, you’ve just got to have a fair knowledge of which cars are desirable and which cars aren’t, something that comes from experience. And of course, even then, you’re not always guaranteed to get it right!
robsco said:
Normally a dealer would use CAP as a guide to value a car as a part exchange. You’d then use CAP Clean as a base point from which to price the car on the forecourt. Naturally some cars are not as desirable as others, so this is a guide only.
For instance, an Audi main dealer may pay CAP Clean for an Audi part exchange and then, as a franchise dealer, be able to price from that. A non franchise dealer cannot do the same, he needs to be able to beat the Audi dealer on price if he wants to sell his car; therefore he either trims his margin from the Clean figure, or needs to buy the car for less. Of course, you would always look at what other cars are advertised for when pricing up a used car.
Pricing cars correctly isn’t an art, you’ve just got to have a fair knowledge of which cars are desirable and which cars aren’t, something that comes from experience. And of course, even then, you’re not always guaranteed to get it right!
Cap is used more for buying and referenced throughout the trade and Auctions. Selling is more reliant on Autotrader now especially for pricing stock retailing upto £50K.The price bands,Low,great,good,fair and high means the retailer really has no choice but to follow the market to which they dictate,Love it or Hate it Autotrader has the monopoly and the dealers can't ignore it so it doesn't matter what Cap says you can retail at it's what Autotrader tells you what you can ask for it.For instance, an Audi main dealer may pay CAP Clean for an Audi part exchange and then, as a franchise dealer, be able to price from that. A non franchise dealer cannot do the same, he needs to be able to beat the Audi dealer on price if he wants to sell his car; therefore he either trims his margin from the Clean figure, or needs to buy the car for less. Of course, you would always look at what other cars are advertised for when pricing up a used car.
Pricing cars correctly isn’t an art, you’ve just got to have a fair knowledge of which cars are desirable and which cars aren’t, something that comes from experience. And of course, even then, you’re not always guaranteed to get it right!
Bemmer said:
Cap is used more for buying and referenced throughout the trade and Auctions. Selling is more reliant on Autotrader now especially for pricing stock retailing upto £50K.The price bands,Low,great,good,fair and high means the retailer really has no choice but to follow the market to which they dictate,Love it or Hate it Autotrader has the monopoly and the dealers can't ignore it so it doesn't matter what Cap says you can retail at it's what Autotrader tells you what you can ask for it.
True enough, but when I was using Autotrader to advertise I'd use their retail price and work my margin back from there, so ignoring the CAP trade figure too, although I wasn't doing huge numbers. Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff