RE: 2020 Volkswagen Golf GTI: official details

[Water Fairy]

[quote=Baldchap]

To be bluntly honest, as a new car buyer, I don't care whether my car will work in ten years time. Why would I?[/quo


The environment for starters. I know this is PH and all but too many people live in a buy today, throw it away tomorrow bubble and it needs to stop. Not everyone is in a position to 'buy' a new car every 2/3/4 years and if cars become more disposable it can only mean bad news. Sorry to sound like a bore but as enthusiasts we should be looking at ways to prolong our ability to buy and enjoy cars, in whatever form that may take in the future.

[nickfrog]

Speedgirl said:

Reconfigured bump stops! Whoop-di-do! Looks like they’ve spent the absolute minimum to refresh it a bit for another cycle so they can stuff the bigger margin into the electric ones. Probably saved a few quid with replacing switches with the screens. One day switches will be back as premium extras on luxury sportscars, like manual boxes, mark my words!

Do you reckon the bump stops is the only chassis element they worked on?

I am sure the car comes with switches for the important stuff, including on the steering wheel.

[Pumpsmynads]

neverlifted said:

Surely a G30 330i M Sport Plus Edition at circa £37k (after discount) which is RWD, has an LSD and Adaptive Dampers as standard is better value and likely a superior driving experience. Same 4 cylinder washing machine type engine though.

G30 is a 5 series

[NGK210]

Water Fairy said:

baldchap said:

To be bluntly honest, as a new car buyer, I don't care whether my car will work in ten years time. Why would I?

The environment for starters. I know this is PH and all but too many people live in a buy today, throw it away tomorrow bubble and it needs to stop.
Not everyone is in a position to 'buy' a new car every 2/3/4 years and if cars become more disposable it can only mean bad news.
Sorry to sound like a bore but as enthusiasts we should be looking at ways to prolong our ability to buy and enjoy cars, in whatever form that may take in the future.

True. Well said.

[Baldchap]

NGK210 said:

Water Fairy said:

baldchap said:

To be bluntly honest, as a new car buyer, I don't care whether my car will work in ten years time. Why would I?

The environment for starters. I know this is PH and all but too many people live in a buy today, throw it away tomorrow bubble and it needs to stop.
Not everyone is in a position to 'buy' a new car every 2/3/4 years and if cars become more disposable it can only mean bad news.
Sorry to sound like a bore but as enthusiasts we should be looking at ways to prolong our ability to buy and enjoy cars, in whatever form that may take in the future.

True. Well said.

It's a fair argument, but even as a new car buyer, I can't make it a better car in a decade, even if I wanted to.

[PhantomPH]

Baldchap said:

NGK210 said:

Water Fairy said:

baldchap said:

To be bluntly honest, as a new car buyer, I don't care whether my car will work in ten years time. Why would I?

The environment for starters. I know this is PH and all but too many people live in a buy today, throw it away tomorrow bubble and it needs to stop.
Not everyone is in a position to 'buy' a new car every 2/3/4 years and if cars become more disposable it can only mean bad news.
Sorry to sound like a bore but as enthusiasts we should be looking at ways to prolong our ability to buy and enjoy cars, in whatever form that may take in the future.

True. Well said.

It's a fair argument, but even as a new car buyer, I can't make it a better car in a decade, even if I wanted to.

As another bald bloke (maybe it's in the hair?) I will add my comment here saying that I get what 'Bald Chap' is saying. Not once have I ever bought a car worrying about whether it will still be working in 10 years time and (aside from obvious things like old classics I've owned) once a car is sold, I never give it a second thought. I certainly don't care if my RX-8 is still on the road or not...for example.

I do agree that rampant consumption is not wise, but I think it's safe to say that precious few people make any purchase (at all!) whilst considering how it might fare in 10 years time...except perhaps your house.

[Onehp]

Well I like the news of the chassi updates, improving agility yet incressing stability and keeping comfort isn't that easy.
As for the shape, perhaps it will improve with versions or by shopping at sister marques...

[Water Fairy]

PhantomPH said:

Baldchap said:

NGK210 said:

Water Fairy said:

baldchap said:

To be bluntly honest, as a new car buyer, I don't care whether my car will work in ten years time. Why would I?

The environment for starters. I know this is PH and all but too many people live in a buy today, throw it away tomorrow bubble and it needs to stop.
Not everyone is in a position to 'buy' a new car every 2/3/4 years and if cars become more disposable it can only mean bad news.
Sorry to sound like a bore but as enthusiasts we should be looking at ways to prolong our ability to buy and enjoy cars, in whatever form that may take in the future.

True. Well said.

It's a fair argument, but even as a new car buyer, I can't make it a better car in a decade, even if I wanted to.

As another bald bloke (maybe it's in the hair?) I will add my comment here saying that I get what 'Bald Chap' is saying. Not once have I ever bought a car worrying about whether it will still be working in 10 years time and (aside from obvious things like old classics I've owned) once a car is sold, I never give it a second thought. I certainly don't care if my RX-8 is still on the road or not...for example.

I do agree that rampant consumption is not wise, but I think it's safe to say that precious few people make any purchase (at all!) whilst considering how it might fare in 10 years time...except perhaps your house.

Yes that's fair I know what baldchap really meant, I guess I wanted to make a point that's all

[neverlifted]

Pumpsmynads said:

G30 is a 5 series

Apologies meant G20. Was a lot easier with the E.

[Me Alec]

If you don't like front wheel drive, and I don't, then there is nothing that they can do with the Golf which will give it appeal at any level.
At one point I talked myself in to ignoring my previous bias - I bought a GTD - and I loathed it. A stroke of good fortune had me fill it one morning with petrol and drive for 4 miles - - I was far from pleased with myself, and then discovered that my insurers considered it a mis-fuelling and paid out handsomely, which was an appeasement - -
Anyway, that was the end of that particular Golf - there will never be another.

[Farmer]

P-Jay said:

My lock-down brain can't work out if by switch them with the wheels on the other side of the car would make them go the 'right' way. The sensible part of me says, don't be daft, it doesn't work like that and VW wouldn't make Left and Right sided wheels, but for some reason I can't help be think it would work.

I cannot wait to go back to work.

My MK1 CRX from 1987 had proper "handed" wheels and looked better for it . Those look particularly awkward going the wrong way

[dunc69]

ghuk said:

You know what I really like my MK 7.5 GTI, it might not be the quickest hot hatch off the line or have the most razor sharp handling but its a brilliant every day car to drive. I upgraded from a MK5 GTI so you could say I have the 'bug'.

With regards to the MK8 I think I'd have to see a couple of them in various colours and have a proper test drive before making my mind up.

Those seats though........ they do look fab

Edited by ghuk on Thursday 14th May 20:30

The Mk7.5 GTI in that colour just looks so right.
Love it. Not necessarily the most exciting car in the world but a wonderfully competent all-rounder, full stop.

[NGK210]

While it’s jolly nice to hear VW telling us how hard it’s worked to improve the chassis set-up and aero, etc, it would also be good to know if VW has also worked hard to rectify / upgrade potential carryover faults from the Mk7 – bearing in mind that in essence the Mk8 is a reskinned, improved Mk7.
For example, has the recurring, and chuffing costly, problem with the every-expense-spared coolant module been addressed?
And when a car maker doesn’t address the issue of potential carryover faults, wouldn’t it be great if motoring publications asked the question?
Come on PH, why don’t you start a trend, which would aid your readers?

[Mark V GTD]

Me Alec said:

A stroke of good fortune had me fill it one morning with petrol and drive for 4 miles - - I was far from pleased with myself, and then discovered that my insurers considered it a mis-fuelling and paid out handsomely, which was an appeasement.

What year was the GTD - the Mk.7 I had was fitted with a device which prevented a petrol nozzle going in the fuel filler.

[the-photographer]

Gameface said:

Those seats/headrests need something written on them. They look strangely bare.

The car itself will, as ever, not be as flash as the competition but will outsell them all.

[Hitch]

I'm in the market for a sensible and comfortable daily driver which can be fun when the opportunity arises. I had a Mk 6 GTI rental for a couple of months and absolutely loved it.

I might go for one of these, as it looks so much better in that real photograph that I expected. VW seem to have really messed up the marketing of this new front end.

[the-photographer]

Hitch said:

I'm in the market for a sensible and comfortable daily driver which can be fun when the opportunity arises. I had a Mk 6 GTI rental for a couple of months and absolutely loved it.

I might go for one of these, as it looks so much better in that real photograph that I expected. VW seem to have really messed up the marketing of this new front end.

The MK7 seats are much better compared to the MK7, let's see how comfortable (seat wise) the MK8 when it arrives

[nickfrog]

Me Alec said:

If you don't like front wheel drive, and I don't, then there is nothing that they can do with the Golf which will give it appeal at any level.
At one point I talked myself in to ignoring my previous bias - I bought a GTD - and I loathed it.

And that's the problem right there - if you think a Golf chassis is the best a front wheel drive layout can offer then you would have been disappointed indeed. Had you gone for a Megane RS of any generation, things may have turned out differently.

[Horace Van Khute]

PaulJC84 said:

I saw a leaked one of these in red on here and the front looked better with the wide grille than in that picture.

Found it.

Edited by PaulJC84 on Thursday 14th May 07:48

That is a nice looking Corolla, Toyota are smashing it out of the park recently.

[ajap1979]

Horace Van Khute said:

That is a nice looking Corolla, Toyota are smashing it out of the park recently.

I’m not massively familiar with the Toyota Corolla, but after a few minutes on Google Images I’m not seeing any resemblance, other than that they’re both hatchbacks...