RE: 2020 BMW M4 - here it (almost) is
Discussion
Krikkit said:
This is a response to the Chinese market - they want more "Mr Biggus Dickus coming through, f
k off out of my way" in their cars, and all the players have started pushing their designs to be more obvious. Unfortunately for BMW this means more than just putting a big badge on it, it means going full beaver.
Edited k off out of my way" in their cars, and all the players have started pushing their designs to be more obvious. Unfortunately for BMW this means more than just putting a big badge on it, it means going full beaver.
For the 100th time it's not for the Chinese market. BMW have said that the huge-grille 7 Series is very popular with the younger market in the USA.
This is the design direction that they have chosen to distinguish themselves globally.
Meanwhile the Chinese market will receive locally-targetted models such as the LWB 3 Series . If the Chinese market needed a specific design feature, it would receive it, BMW don't need to scribble over their global design image just for that reason.
This is the design direction that they have chosen to distinguish themselves globally.
Meanwhile the Chinese market will receive locally-targetted models such as the LWB 3 Series . If the Chinese market needed a specific design feature, it would receive it, BMW don't need to scribble over their global design image just for that reason.
Edited by FA57REN on Wednesday 8th July 13:22
pacdes said:
Buttons76 said:
are they forgetting that the E46 had a bulge?
Anyway, it doesn't matter what people think, this will sell regardless and they know that
I wouldn't put money on it. Honda's new design went ahead after a bad public reaction and sales went right down so they re-designed it after 2 years as opposed to the 9 years the previous model ran for. Anyway, it doesn't matter what people think, this will sell regardless and they know that
Had an email flyer in from Barons BMW group saying they were back open for business , on the front of it were 3 nice M4's not a new 4 series in sight .......which I think tells you in case you were wondering, what BMW main dealers themselves think about the upcoming model lineup , and they are contractually obliged to buy a certain number of them a quarter from the Fatherland ,regardless if the can sell them or not . Dealers are going to be in trouble if the beaver doesn't start flying out of their lodges arrgh damn I meant showrooms . . .
sandysinclair said:
Had an email flyer in from Barons BMW group saying they were back open for business , on the front of it were 3 nice M4's not a new 4 series in sight .......which I think tells you in case you were wondering, what BMW main dealers themselves think about the upcoming model lineup , and they are contractually obliged to buy a certain number of them a quarter from the Fatherland ,regardless if the can sell them or not . Dealers are going to be in trouble if the beaver doesn't start flying out of their lodges arrgh damn I meant showrooms . . .
Is the new big-grill even at dealers yet? Likely a photo from before lockdown as well...maybe!sandysinclair said:
Had an email flyer in from Barons BMW group saying they were back open for business , on the front of it were 3 nice M4's not a new 4 series in sight .......which I think tells you in case you were wondering, what BMW main dealers themselves think about the upcoming model lineup
Market launch for the 4 series is October 2020. The M3/M4 hasn't even debuted yet. So Barons (and all the other dealers/BMW UK) are probably thinking "we will sell that when we can, but in the meantime we will sell what we can now". Unless you think it's some kind of protest against the new 4 series by leaving off their brochure (despite not yet being on sale)?BFleming said:
Market launch for the 4 series is October 2020. The M3/M4 hasn't even debuted yet. So Barons (and all the other dealers/BMW UK) are probably thinking "we will sell that when we can, but in the meantime we will sell what we can now". Unless you think it's some kind of protest against the new 4 series by leaving off their brochure (despite not yet being on sale)?
You could be 100% correct and I have misread everything , I would just say that I would imagine advanced orders are being taken the day after the world launch of the car both in the UK and elsewhere and if ever there was an opportunity to showcase your brand new multi billion of euros spent 4 series... now would probably be a good moment ? Time will tell I guess . sandysinclair said:
BFleming said:
Market launch for the 4 series is October 2020. The M3/M4 hasn't even debuted yet. So Barons (and all the other dealers/BMW UK) are probably thinking "we will sell that when we can, but in the meantime we will sell what we can now". Unless you think it's some kind of protest against the new 4 series by leaving off their brochure (despite not yet being on sale)?
You could be 100% correct and I have misread everything , I would just say that I would imagine advanced orders are being taken the day after the world launch of the car both in the UK and elsewhere and if ever there was an opportunity to showcase your brand new multi billion of euros spent 4 series... now would probably be a good moment ? Time will tell I guess . BFleming said:
sandysinclair said:
BFleming said:
Market launch for the 4 series is October 2020. The M3/M4 hasn't even debuted yet. So Barons (and all the other dealers/BMW UK) are probably thinking "we will sell that when we can, but in the meantime we will sell what we can now". Unless you think it's some kind of protest against the new 4 series by leaving off their brochure (despite not yet being on sale)?
You could be 100% correct and I have misread everything , I would just say that I would imagine advanced orders are being taken the day after the world launch of the car both in the UK and elsewhere and if ever there was an opportunity to showcase your brand new multi billion of euros spent 4 series... now would probably be a good moment ? Time will tell I guess . Burwood said:
BFleming said:
sandysinclair said:
BFleming said:
Market launch for the 4 series is October 2020. The M3/M4 hasn't even debuted yet. So Barons (and all the other dealers/BMW UK) are probably thinking "we will sell that when we can, but in the meantime we will sell what we can now". Unless you think it's some kind of protest against the new 4 series by leaving off their brochure (despite not yet being on sale)?
You could be 100% correct and I have misread everything , I would just say that I would imagine advanced orders are being taken the day after the world launch of the car both in the UK and elsewhere and if ever there was an opportunity to showcase your brand new multi billion of euros spent 4 series... now would probably be a good moment ? Time will tell I guess . BFleming said:
Burwood said:
BFleming said:
sandysinclair said:
BFleming said:
Market launch for the 4 series is October 2020. The M3/M4 hasn't even debuted yet. So Barons (and all the other dealers/BMW UK) are probably thinking "we will sell that when we can, but in the meantime we will sell what we can now". Unless you think it's some kind of protest against the new 4 series by leaving off their brochure (despite not yet being on sale)?
You could be 100% correct and I have misread everything , I would just say that I would imagine advanced orders are being taken the day after the world launch of the car both in the UK and elsewhere and if ever there was an opportunity to showcase your brand new multi billion of euros spent 4 series... now would probably be a good moment ? Time will tell I guess . You'd be crazy to pay 1) list or 2) a new BMW model as we all know within 12 months they'll be had with 20%+ discount. My 640d had 27% discount, my 440i had 25% discount and my current X3M had 23% discount.
I like the new M3 and I think in the right colour the grill will be one of those things that people will quickly get used to. I'm definitely going to consider an M3 Comp once the proper discounts start in 2 years.
I like the new M3 and I think in the right colour the grill will be one of those things that people will quickly get used to. I'm definitely going to consider an M3 Comp once the proper discounts start in 2 years.
Gus265 said:
Absolute howler from BMW - and I love M Cars. 2 things:
1. There are some amazing deals on M4s on the classifieds where dealers have had to take on stock- £40k for a brand new M4 and £45k for the Comp - there's over 30 out there with delivery mileage - very tempting to bag a bargain!
2. this was the perfect opportunity to use this styling for the front - which would have been amazing! I really wish they had made this car.
This concept looks really stunning in comparison to the new 4. What a missed opportunity.1. There are some amazing deals on M4s on the classifieds where dealers have had to take on stock- £40k for a brand new M4 and £45k for the Comp - there's over 30 out there with delivery mileage - very tempting to bag a bargain!
2. this was the perfect opportunity to use this styling for the front - which would have been amazing! I really wish they had made this car.
Why on earth have they gone with that awful grill design? Did BMW think they were risking being bland so wanted to have a talking point? I just think it's so bad that it will genuinely put people off buying the car.
If you could have the M3 with this grill or the Giulia Quadrifoglio I'm sure you'd go with the latter on looks alone. They cost about the same don't they?
If you could have the M3 with this grill or the Giulia Quadrifoglio I'm sure you'd go with the latter on looks alone. They cost about the same don't they?
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