RE: Jaguar XK 3.8-litre back in production

RE: Jaguar XK 3.8-litre back in production

Wednesday 24th June 2020

Jaguar XK 3.8-litre back in production

Classic division offers new straight-six to vintage Jag owners only - for £14,340



Jaguar Classic has brought the legendary XK 3.8-litre straight-six back into production, offering the made-to-original-spec motor exclusively to owners of vintage models. The XK engine powered a whole host of fabled Jaguars including the XK150, Mk2, and E-type, and while it bowed out of production more than half a century ago, its legacy continues to this day – even helping to add some historical kudos to JLR’s latest inline six motor.

The remake of the original XK won’t be available off the shelf like, say, the four-pot Cosworth motors produced with technical ties to the Mk2 Escort engine; Jaguar Classic will only supply it’s the new unit to owners of original models, which also include the XK150 S, MkIX and MkX, as well as the S-Type. Proof of ownership will be required before owners are ‘allowed’ to hand over £14,340 in exchange for building their shiny new straight-six.


With ownership documents approved, it’s then up the customer to choose whether their new engine uses the same serial number as their original block, stamped on the new casting with an additional asterisk denoting the new block is a replacement item. Or, whether they’d like the new block to be stamped with a new, unique serial number. Something tells us most will be going for the former option, given the onus there is on originality in the classic car market. 

Some owners will likely retain the original unit while using the new motor in their car. That way, they’ll have all the option to put their classic back to its original status, while running around with a fresh engine that comes with a 12 months Jaguar parts and accessories warranty. Sounds like a decent offering to us either way – especially if it keeps many more classic cars on the road.



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998420

Original Poster:

901 posts

151 months

Wednesday 24th June 2020
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Why the hassle about proof of ownership?

Are they worried about genuine engines ending up in replicas, or are fakes and frauds a big problem?

Why not just sell them.. There has to be a really good reason

JakeT

5,428 posts

120 months

Wednesday 24th June 2020
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14k is probably quite cheap for a handbuilt six. I'm guessing so that these engines go in 'proper' cars, and Jag aren't making loads of them to go in Caterfield type cars.

Bombjack

483 posts

267 months

Wednesday 24th June 2020
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998420 said:
Why the hassle about proof of ownership?

Are they worried about genuine engines ending up in replicas, or are fakes and frauds a big problem?

Why not just sell them.. There has to be a really good reason
I imagine their production capacity is very limited, so they want to sell to their heritage owners first. They might open it up later.

SuperPav

1,093 posts

125 months

Wednesday 24th June 2020
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I normally resist having a dig at quality of PH articles but...

No details of the engine? i.e. what do you get for your £14k? Pictures just show a block, presumably that's not all you get......


indapendentlee

401 posts

99 months

Wednesday 24th June 2020
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Shame they aren't offering to do a restomod / power boost job on it. Alfaholics can't build GTA-Rs quickly enough.

V12 Migaloo

813 posts

146 months

Wednesday 24th June 2020
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Now build a new V12 please

thegreenhell

15,346 posts

219 months

Wednesday 24th June 2020
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SuperPav said:
I normally resist having a dig at quality of PH articles but...

No details of the engine? i.e. what do you get for your £14k? Pictures just show a block, presumably that's not all you get......
It is just for the engine block...

https://parts.jaguarlandroverclassic.com/jaguar-3-...

LotusOmega375D

7,627 posts

153 months

Wednesday 24th June 2020
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Hmm, the XK 3.8 is not exactly unicorn rare is it? £14 grand for a block only. Can’t see many S-Type owners jumping at the chance of paying that.

A1VDY

3,575 posts

127 months

Wednesday 24th June 2020
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It's just the engine block casting itself. £14k is ridiculous.
Most old blocks can be made fully serviceable even at max rebore limits using liners. Cracks in the casting can be stitched and the deck can be refaced. Once blasted and repainted it won't look any different to a brand new one..

thegreenhell

15,346 posts

219 months

Wednesday 24th June 2020
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It's actually more expensive than a new 3.8 alloy block for a Lightweight E from Crosthwaite & Gardiner.

mentall

453 posts

130 months

Wednesday 24th June 2020
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Quote from JLR: "The stamp will include an asterix to reflect the engine block replacement."




I'd buy that!

piquet

614 posts

257 months

Wednesday 24th June 2020
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hmmmmm you can get a lightweight ali block for less then that, if you're going to have a reproduction block i'd go in that direction

cast xk blocks are far from rare, even in things like 3.8 e-type form, i have a couple in my garage, most restorers can source you a replacement correct block

i suspect the fuss about ID is to stop using the data to recreate the missing outside bonnet lock e-types from later cars

DaveCWK

1,990 posts

174 months

Wednesday 24th June 2020
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V12 Migaloo said:
Now build a new V12 please
I thought (but may be wrong) that all the bits to rebuild the V12 were still available from Jaguar?

P-Jay

10,565 posts

191 months

Wednesday 24th June 2020
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998420 said:
Why the hassle about proof of ownership?

Having read it;s £14k for just the block, I'd say it's because they're hoping to take their slice of the 'Originality Tax'.

By re-stamping them with the original serial number (even with a Fighty Gaul next to it) it allows the owners to throw in a new block and retain it's 'matching numbers' value, so they'll pay more for it. Maybe there are a lot of old E-Types out there with the 'wrong' engine that they could increase the value of by fitting the right new engine, how much digging will JLR do to check... I doubt they'll be digging around the engine bay of some old E-Type to check the Engine number, they'll supply the correct one for the chassis.

I can't imagine, even if they sold full crate motors anyone was going to "Straight Jag 6 swap" an RX7 with a blown rotor like they would say an LS so the market was tiny anyway.

romac

596 posts

146 months

Wednesday 24th June 2020
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mentall said:
Quote from JLR: "The stamp will include an asterix to reflect the engine block replacement."




I'd buy that!
laugh These Romans are crazy if they'll pay 14k for just an obelix like that!

braddo

10,481 posts

188 months

Wednesday 24th June 2020
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romac said:
mentall said:
Quote from JLR: "The stamp will include an asterix to reflect the engine block replacement."




I'd buy that!
laugh These Romans are crazy if they'll pay 14k for just an obelix like that!
laugh

Tall_Blk

376 posts

191 months

Wednesday 24th June 2020
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Are these going to be built to modern emission standards?

TCEvo

12,710 posts

202 months

Wednesday 24th June 2020
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romac said:
mentall said:
Quote from JLR: "The stamp will include an asterix to reflect the engine block replacement."




I'd buy that!
laugh These Romans are crazy if they'll pay 14k for just an obelix like that!
laughclap top work. The World needs more Asterik & Obelix references.

hidetheelephants

24,357 posts

193 months

Wednesday 24th June 2020
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Tall_Blk said:
Are these going to be built to modern emission standards?
Yes, that 3.8 XK6 is fully Euro 6 compliant. hehe

thegreenhell

15,346 posts

219 months

Wednesday 24th June 2020
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Tall_Blk said:
Are these going to be built to modern emission standards?
It's just a replacement engine block. It's up to the purchaser how it gets built up after that.