RE: INEOS Grenadier officially unveiled
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growlerowl said:
Aren't you proud of being British? What do you think will happen to the economy and workers if we let everything be made elsewhere? I just cannot fathom living with this kind of unpatriotic rootlessness, though obviously I realise it's pushed hard by the media and is a fashionable pose for those that want to present themselves as modern, enlightened and other globalist carp
Would you describe yourself as old-fashioned, unenlightened and insular?You do realise that British business and the government has been keen to flog everything off to "foreign people" for the past few decades?
camel_landy said:
Fuel isn't necessarily sourced locally... 
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"Hey you, invaded persons, 100 British Gallons of your finest Derv please, no not the watery stuff, the stuff you keep for invading forces. Carry on!"M
Cracks at the French are unfounded in this instance, they probably have the best Wheeled Armoured manoeuvre units in Europe.
Evanivitch said:
"Hey you, invaded persons, 100 British Gallons of your finest Derv please, no not the watery stuff, the stuff you keep for invading forces. Carry on!"
Cracks at the French are unfounded in this instance, they probably have the best Wheeled Armoured manoeuvre units in Europe.
Indeed, I hear their kit is particularly well furnished with reverse gears.Cracks at the French are unfounded in this instance, they probably have the best Wheeled Armoured manoeuvre units in Europe.
Someone had to
growlerowl said:
Aren't you proud of being British?
No, I'm not. It's neither an achievement, nor was it ever a goal of mine. It simply happened, as far as I'm concerned. I feel neither pride nor shame for it.growlerowl said:
What do you think will happen to the economy and workers if we let everything be made elsewhere? I just cannot fathom living with this kind of unpatriotic rootlessness, though obviously I realise it's pushed hard by the media and is a fashionable pose for those that want to present themselves as modern, enlightened and other globalist carp
I made no comment on the matter, no promotion or denial.Jimmy Recard said:
growlerowl said:
Aren't you proud of being British?
No, I'm not. It's neither an achievement, nor was it ever a goal of mine. It simply happened, as far as I'm concerned. I feel neither pride nor shame for it.This is something that some people just appear not to be able to get their heads around.
I'd have been just as happy to have been born when I was as French, German, Dutch, Norwegian, Swedish, Irish etc. I didn't have much choice in the matter and I don't see my birthplace as superior because I was born there.
growlerowl said:
Aren't you proud of being British? What do you think will happen to the economy and workers if we let everything be made elsewhere? I just cannot fathom living with this kind of unpatriotic rootlessness, though obviously I realise it's pushed hard by the media and is a fashionable pose for those that want to present themselves as modern, enlightened and other globalist carp
You do realise that's why the vast majority of UK businesses (and non-UK businesses operating in the UK employing hundreds of thousands of people) wanted the UK to stay in the EU? Because jobs will bleed (are bleeding) from the UK to the EU thanks to Brexit.But you seem to prefer some flag waving over reality. Enjoy your blue passport.
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braddo said:
You do realise that's why the vast majority of UK businesses (and non-UK businesses operating in the UK employing hundreds of thousands of people) wanted the UK to stay in the EU? Because jobs will bleed (are bleeding) from the UK to the EU thanks to Brexit.
But you seem to prefer some flag waving over reality. Enjoy your blue passport.
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I suspect he still believes that we're in the 1970s and most jobs are in factories and down coal mines. And hasn't realised that most are in fact in offices, in financial institutions and in technology companies that require skilled workers who, by and large, will go where the money is. Which is rapidly ceasing to be here....But you seem to prefer some flag waving over reality. Enjoy your blue passport.
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MC Bodge said:
<Raises eyebrow>
"You just can't tell the tired old jokes that you used to. Political correctness gone mad"
Basically yes. I know its fashionable to support the global Marxist revolution that just happens to be supported by the entirety of the business establishment etc, but I don't. Sorry bout that. Enjoy the destruction of your culture."You just can't tell the tired old jokes that you used to. Political correctness gone mad"
If you want to help UK automotive, buy a range rover sport or disco sport. JLR probably have more cleaners on staff than ineos have on this entire white elephant project.
Just because JLR are owned by Tata and not some tax dodging, gas fracking British billionaire doesn't mean most of your purchase price doesn't go to British staff/suppliers. Look at how house prices in Leamington Spa have exploded since the new era of JLR to see how important it is to the west Midlands alone.
Just because JLR are owned by Tata and not some tax dodging, gas fracking British billionaire doesn't mean most of your purchase price doesn't go to British staff/suppliers. Look at how house prices in Leamington Spa have exploded since the new era of JLR to see how important it is to the west Midlands alone.
growlerowl said:
Basically yes. I know its fashionable to support the global Marxist revolution that just happens to be supported by the entirety of the business establishment etc, but I don't. Sorry bout that. Enjoy the destruction of your culture.
"A global Marxist revolution supported by the entirity of the business establishment?" You what now?
What is the culture that is being destroyed?
Ps. Tim Martin doesn't support it. He just sacks off his workers
RacerMike said:
I suspect he still believes that we're in the 1970s and most jobs are in factories and down coal mines. And hasn't realised that most are in fact in offices, in financial institutions and in technology companies that require skilled workers who, by and large, will go where the money is. Which is rapidly ceasing to be here....
My grandfather worked down a coal mine, and I suspect he'd be disgusted at the EU for destroying the wages of the working class, just like that massive racist dinosaur Tony Benn, if you remember him?l354uge said:
If you want to help UK automotive, buy a range rover sport or disco sport. JLR probably have more cleaners on staff than ineos have on this entire white elephant project.
Just because JLR are owned by Tata and not some tax dodging, gas fracking British billionaire doesn't mean most of your purchase price doesn't go to British staff/suppliers. Look at how house prices in Leamington Spa have exploded since the new era of JLR to see how important it is to the west Midlands alone.
:laugh Couldn't have summed it up better myself. And as for Leamington.....I'm lucky I could afford a 2 bed Victorian Terrace....Just because JLR are owned by Tata and not some tax dodging, gas fracking British billionaire doesn't mean most of your purchase price doesn't go to British staff/suppliers. Look at how house prices in Leamington Spa have exploded since the new era of JLR to see how important it is to the west Midlands alone.
MC Bodge said:
"A global Marxist revolution supported by the entirity of the business establishment?"
You what now?
What is the culture that is being destroyed?
Ps. Tim Martin doesn't support it. He just sacks off his workers
You're not aware of any links whatsoever between the control of speech and the left? OK then. You what now?
What is the culture that is being destroyed?
Ps. Tim Martin doesn't support it. He just sacks off his workers
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