RE: Charger SRT is 'fastest saloon in the world'
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alec.e said:
Faked video footage? Heard it all now 
The way mine pulls to the indicated 170mph limiter, leaves me no doubt that it could hit 200mph with limiter removed.
FYI, my M6 doesn't crash over bumps and has been great for reliability.
I would say it's performance & dynamic reputation is accurate.
I glad that your M hasn’t disappointed. My last one did; never again.The way mine pulls to the indicated 170mph limiter, leaves me no doubt that it could hit 200mph with limiter removed.
FYI, my M6 doesn't crash over bumps and has been great for reliability.
I would say it's performance & dynamic reputation is accurate.
My fav review of the CTS-V, on the track with Motor Trend:
https://youtu.be/la6BZ89Z6bs
It's worth reading the YouTube user comments that appear below that video. Some interesting numbers shared there.
CTS-V is built on the same platform as Cadillac ATS and Chevrolet Camaro -- cars that are considered proficient in chassis / handling.
Over here a good, used example is still circa $65,000 (£52,000) --- not yet cheap in price, despite being immense value for money. In the UK, it would be a bit of a unicorn, I imagine, given the few present.
Agree on the VTS, a very interesting alternative to the German counterparts, american cars always seem to be comfortable to, i would have considered one were it not for its unicorn status, hard enough to satisfy my criteria with thousands of germans to choose from!
Having owned a few corvettes and also looking at the Later ZL1 / Z06 etc last month as a purchase, i have to say they are lower rent inside (though the gap is narrower now) in the end i decided on a merc as the long term prospect feels better, i’m older so maybe its this but i even choose TVR over american years ago (which was also based on bang for buck) due to their interiors, they struck a very good american/euro balance for me, muscle with sumptuous interior, good comfort, turned out pretty reliable to.
BTW - grow the fuk up children, you’re being pathetic.
Having owned a few corvettes and also looking at the Later ZL1 / Z06 etc last month as a purchase, i have to say they are lower rent inside (though the gap is narrower now) in the end i decided on a merc as the long term prospect feels better, i’m older so maybe its this but i even choose TVR over american years ago (which was also based on bang for buck) due to their interiors, they struck a very good american/euro balance for me, muscle with sumptuous interior, good comfort, turned out pretty reliable to.
BTW - grow the fuk up children, you’re being pathetic.
A1VDY said:
MuscleSedan said:
That looks totally gash.. irocfan said:
A1VDY said:
maybe (I disagree FWIW) but at least it elicits a reaction - for me the monster Audi/BMW/Merc variants are just a little 'meh', may as well be a base model with a bodykit
te; it has that same really cheap thin sharply moulded plastic look as all the old bodykits, to say nothing of the cheesy and tasteless design. The reaction it'll get from most people will be "hahaha fk me look at that, ha ha ha" 
One half of me feels obliged to like this due to the ICE lunacy factor, the other half chalks it up under 'American, don't get it'. The lung and tank emptying claims make me air towards the latter. I look forward to hearing Matt Farah refer to this as 'ban-an-as' only for it then to have no further impact on my life.
stickleback123 said:
The reaction it'll get from most people will be "hahaha fk me look at that, ha ha ha"
As a lot of the other posts in here have been a bit angry, hopefully you won't assume this is intended to be delivered with the same tone, so here goes...k me look at that, ha ha ha" I was just wondering what sort of reaction an equivalent (presumably German) car would elicit, and also which people it would elicit such a response from?
I'm assuming you're talking an M5 or some such as we're in the 600bhp plus saloon category.
As I say, not trying to be s
tty, I'm just curious. I'm more than happy to accept that is your view point of an American car (or even just that Cadillac), and am then just also trying to understand how an M5 (say) looks from that perspective.SturdyHSV said:
As a lot of the other posts in here have been a bit angry, hopefully you won't assume this is intended to be delivered with the same tone, so here goes...
I was just wondering what sort of reaction an equivalent (presumably German) car would elicit, and also which people it would elicit such a response from?
I'm assuming you're talking an M5 or some such as we're in the 600bhp plus saloon category.
As I say, not trying to be stty, I'm just curious. I'm more than happy to accept that is your view point of an American car (or even just that Cadillac), and am then just also trying to understand how an M5 (say) looks from that perspective.
I don't think anyone pays any attention to M5s and so on except for car people, do they? They look so similar to a street furniture 520d, which is kind of the point I thought? Hence the irony of badging your 520d up as an M5 - anyone who cares will know it's not an M5 and anyone who could possibly be fooled won't care anyway. I was just wondering what sort of reaction an equivalent (presumably German) car would elicit, and also which people it would elicit such a response from?
I'm assuming you're talking an M5 or some such as we're in the 600bhp plus saloon category.
As I say, not trying to be s
tty, I'm just curious. I'm more than happy to accept that is your view point of an American car (or even just that Cadillac), and am then just also trying to understand how an M5 (say) looks from that perspective.That Cadillac is trying so, so hard to stand out with addendum to what is a very conservative, extremely unremarkable silhouette and heavy handed detailing that it just looks silly and a bit desperate for attention, with no consideration of whether the tropey styling of that front bumper, grille, and bonnet fit even remotely with the shapes of the rest of the car (they don't). Just like an angry eyes bonnet and some fake vents on a FWD hatchback; it still looks like the utilitarian pudding it always was, but has lost any honesty of purpose in it's styling. The styling details that don't just look dopey on cars like this are things like flared arches to accommodate wider wheels integrated with the surfacing of the car, maybe aero additions to provide stability at speeds the cooking models cannot reach; these details have an honesty of purpose to them. Plastic fake vents? Not so much.
Loudly shouting for attention is just not cool, another brilliant example of this is a Lamborghini SUV thing compared to any one of their cars; the SUV is totally and utterly unremarkable is stance, proportions, and even it's overall silhouette so has to resort to tropey detailing and surfacing to stand out from the army of other SUVs out there. Their sports cars, being mid engined and needing to be stable at extremely high speeds, look as exotic as all hell and even if you take away all the tropey surfacing and detailing they still look as exotic as hell because a mid engined supercar has to look like that; honesty of purpose vs gimmicky tropes again.
I do vividly remember the first time I saw a current Honda Civic Type R in person; I was walking across a supermarket car park with a couple of women in their mid 20s when a Civic drove past and one of the women burst into laughter and said "look what that w
ker has done to his car, hahahaha", and they both laughed even more when I said they leave the factory looking like that. Not an uncommon reaction, I suspect. Other opinions are, of course, available. I like many US performance cars very much and wish they were more accesible here; as I've said on this thread and others the engineering is usually to an excellent standard within a much more "everyman" budget and their longevity is excellent compared to the rolling hand grenades turned out by European manufacturers.
Edited by anonymous-user on Tuesday 7th July 17:09
stickleback123 said:
irocfan said:
A1VDY said:
maybe (I disagree FWIW) but at least it elicits a reaction - for me the monster Audi/BMW/Merc variants are just a little 'meh', may as well be a base model with a bodykitte; it has that same really cheap thin sharply moulded plastic look as all the old bodykits, to say nothing of the cheesy and tasteless design. The reaction it'll get from most people will be "hahaha fk me look at that, ha ha ha" Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff