RE: Charger SRT is 'fastest saloon in the world'

[Matt Harper]

RobEB said:

I have read in various corners of the internet that the Challenger and Charger suffer from a worse than average reliability. i get the impression the poor reliability is putting a lot of people off getting one, or getting a second one.

My experience is different to this. I bought a new R/T Scat Pack Challenger in 2015. I absolutely loved everything about it, aside from one gripe. The OEM wheels and tires are too puny to handle the horsepower. 245/40/20 can't cope with 485hp/475lbft. I had one issue in the 3 1/2 years I owned it. The differential started groaning at about 10k miles. Turns out the hypoid lubricant installed during production was the wrong grade - the whole unit was replaced under warranty.



In 2019 I chopped it in for a new Scat Pack Widebody. So far, faultless and now launches and grips like a motherfker, due to the much more appropriate 305/35's.

[dinkel]

Buy and die. IMO 800 brake seems a lot to handle. I love 250ish and that's enough on a daily road.

I drove a MB with 615 and that was total madness.

[Don1]

“the equivalent flow rate to 89 adults simultaneously emptying their lungs in one second”

Americans will do anything to avoid the metric system.

[irocfan]

mogman888 said:

Saw a 2019 Hellcat with 7k miles go for $55k last week on a US auction site. Nice Viper for $29.5k

let's hope that the various idiots trying to get trade deals manage to get one on cars

[Pvapour]

dinkel said:

Buy and die. IMO 800 brake seems a lot to handle. I love 250ish and that's enough on a daily road.

I drove a MB with 615 and that was total madness.

250 - 300 in a lightish car is fun and useable but so is 7-800 in a saloon with good grip, 40-100 makes passing lots of fun (less useful in uk admittedly)

there's not a single trip i make in ours where i dont use full power, it still makes me giggle like a kid, I wasnt expecting its fun factor to remain tbh when i got the GTC roadster but i still enjoy taking it out as much as ever, totally different but its so wrong that a big saloon is that quick.

But i think the dodge does ‘look’ like it should be that quick, a Mercedes taxi Doesnt

[MikeM6]

ZX10R NIN said:

Those that delimited found that they couldn't get near that number but it did result in a fair few destroyed engines.

I know plenty that didn't, the destroyed engines were mainly through bad maps and/or poor maintenance. Leave the engine standard and delimit it and it will do 200mph+, assuming it was still in good shape.

The BMW limiters were 155 or 190mph, so delimiting via them may have just replaced the former with the latter.

[tejr]

The car itself seems decent enough. I was ready to hate it based on the ' fastest mass production saloon in the world' moniker than only the Americans would get excited over.

[Water Fairy]

What else do I need to know? How do I get the power down to make that 800hp actually mean anything for a start. Power is nothing without control.

[HD Adam]

Water Fairy said:

What else do I need to know? How do I get the power down to make that 800hp actually mean anything for a start. Power is nothing without control.

These have plenty of driver aids.

2 levels of traction control + off.

Multiple settings for the shocks electronically.

Same for the steering.

Everything from pussycat level to full mental.

[Pvapour]

HD Adam said:

Water Fairy said:

What else do I need to know? How do I get the power down to make that 800hp actually mean anything for a start. Power is nothing without control.

These have plenty of driver aids.

2 levels of traction control + off.

Multiple settings for the shocks electronically.

Same for the steering.

Everything from pussycat level to full mental.

As said, perfectly usable with decent rubber and foot control, even easier in the 4wd euro saloons, less fun in them i guess but still usable.

ours is only 2wd but with smaller rear tyres than the dodge but it is in no way too much of a handful, even in the wet it feels ‘ok’