RE: 911 Turbo S Cabriolet vs. McLaren 600LT Spider

[TyrannosauRoss Lex]

rockin said:

TyrannosauRoss Lex said:

So, if you need a saloon car for practicality reasons, but don't want a humdrum diesel....what would you do?

Get a modest petrol one and spend rest of the money on something else.

Right, and that is a totally understandable thing to do. However, some people don't want to drive home from a hard day at work with a humdrum diesel, some people don't want the hassle of having 2 cars to service, tax, insure and (if applicable) MOT. Some people want a single car that is compromised, not 2 cars that are compromised.

[bennno]

TyrannosauRoss Lex said:

rockin said:

TyrannosauRoss Lex said:

So, if you need a saloon car for practicality reasons, but don't want a humdrum diesel....what would you do?

Get a modest petrol one and spend rest of the money on something else.

Right, and that is a totally understandable thing to do. However, some people don't want to drive home from a hard day at work with a humdrum diesel, some people don't want the hassle of having 2 cars to service, tax, insure and (if applicable) MOT. Some people want a single car that is compromised, not 2 cars that are compromised.

Every post is getting stranger, whats your point here?

[TyrannosauRoss Lex]

bennno said:

TyrannosauRoss Lex said:

rockin said:

TyrannosauRoss Lex said:

So, if you need a saloon car for practicality reasons, but don't want a humdrum diesel....what would you do?

Get a modest petrol one and spend rest of the money on something else.

Right, and that is a totally understandable thing to do. However, some people don't want to drive home from a hard day at work with a humdrum diesel, some people don't want the hassle of having 2 cars to service, tax, insure and (if applicable) MOT. Some people want a single car that is compromised, not 2 cars that are compromised.

Every post is getting stranger, whats your point here?

If you saw what I was originally quoting you'd find that was pretty obvious.

Someone was saying that they don't see the point in a big engine in a saloon car, when I asked if someone doesn't want a boring diesel but needs a saloon car what should they do, they said they should buy 2 cars. To which I replied not everyone wants 2 cars for a variety of reasons.

Sorry if that was written in a way you found it difficult to understand.

[anonymous-user]

TyrannosauRoss Lex said:

...they should buy 2 cars. To which I replied not everyone wants 2 cars for a variety of reasons.

Not true. What I suggested was buying a cheaper saloon and spending the rest on "something else". Nothing about a second car whatsoever.

[TyrannosauRoss Lex]

rockin said:

TyrannosauRoss Lex said:

...they should buy 2 cars. To which I replied not everyone wants 2 cars for a variety of reasons.

Not true. What I suggested was buying a cheaper saloon and spending the rest on "something else". Nothing about a second car whatsoever.

Oh I see, I think your comment was a little ambiguous, in that case.

Either way, some people don't want "modest" and want something more. Nothing wrong with that. I appreciate some don't like that idea, but I can't see why it's hard to fathom why someone wants something more. Likewise of you deem, say, a 300bhp petrol about the sweetspot I'm sure someone else out there would say "that's over the top and I don't see the point, why not get a 150bhp car and spend the rest on something else?".....

[Ares]

ddom said:

Ares said:

It's not negativity, but when specifically discussing McLaren Vs Porsche, to levy a lack of model variation against the Germans is a little off pitch.

But Porsche ‘had’ a supercar not so long ago. It was obviously a halo model. I don’t think anyone would refer to the 911 as that, it’s beauty is a useable GT car. Discreet by purpose. Parked next to a McLaren it just looks very ordinary.

Which was my original point. The McLaren is c50% more expensive, isn't really the same proposition.

[J4CKO]

av185 said:

rockin said:

Rock up in a GT3 and you just look like an idiot.

It that just with you at the wheel or every other GT3 driver in the world too?

To be fair, depends where, track day, PH meet or whatever, yeah cool.

Rest of the time, not so sure, a Porsche with a climbing frame in the back, I get it, not sure normal folk do, like buying a 4/5 seat hatch with no rear seats, because racecar !

[TyrannosauRoss Lex]

J4CKO said:

av185 said:

rockin said:

Rock up in a GT3 and you just look like an idiot.

It that just with you at the wheel or every other GT3 driver in the world too?

To be fair, depends where, track day, PH meet or whatever, yeah cool.

Rest of the time, not so sure, a Porsche with a climbing frame in the back, I get it, not sure normal folk do, like buying a 4/5 seat hatch with no rear seats, because racecar !

I agree. Something like a GT3 RS is an amazing piece of machinery. Cool it is not though. Would you feel cool taking someone out in it on your first date, as you head to a restaurant? You just know she'll be wondering why there's scaffolding in the back.

That said, I'm not sure if the scaffolding is just the RS model, and not the normal GT3?

[av185]

TyrannosauRoss Lex said:

J4CKO said:

av185 said:

rockin said:

Rock up in a GT3 and you just look like an idiot.

It that just with you at the wheel or every other GT3 driver in the world too?

To be fair, depends where, track day, PH meet or whatever, yeah cool.

Rest of the time, not so sure, a Porsche with a climbing frame in the back, I get it, not sure normal folk do, like buying a 4/5 seat hatch with no rear seats, because racecar !

I agree. Something like a GT3 RS is an amazing piece of machinery. Cool it is not though. Would you feel cool taking someone out in it on your first date, as you head to a restaurant? You just know she'll be wondering why there's scaffolding in the back.

That said, I'm not sure if the scaffolding is just the RS model, and not the normal GT3?

If she's bothered about the rear cage I wouldn't really want her in my GT3.

And anyone who thinks a GT3 without a cage isn't cool doesn't realise what can happen to their head when a car ends tits up.

GT3 clubsports have cages GT3 comforts do not. GT3 RS comfort specs do not.

[anonymous-user]

J4CKO said:

To be fair, depends where, track day, PH meet or whatever, yeah cool.

Rest of the time, not so sure, a Porsche with a climbing frame in the back, I get it, not sure normal folk do, like buying a 4/5 seat hatch with no rear seats, because racecar !

^^ Exactly this IMO. But each to their own.

[Hally61]

600Lt ALL THE WAY THE 911 IS GOOD CAR BUT NOT A SUPERCAR THE 600 LT SIMPLY IS AWESOME, LOOKS OF THE 911 ARE NOT GOOD THERE CONVERTABLES HAVE NEVER WORKED THE DRIVE OF THE LT ALSO MAKES YOU FEEL SPECIAL NOT SO IN THE 911 I OWN AN LT SO NOT BIAS JUST IVE DRIVEN BOTH.

[TyrannosauRoss Lex]

Hally61 said:

600Lt ALL THE WAY THE 911 IS GOOD CAR BUT NOT A SUPERCAR THE 600 LT SIMPLY IS AWESOME, LOOKS OF THE 911 ARE NOT GOOD THERE CONVERTABLES HAVE NEVER WORKED THE DRIVE OF THE LT ALSO MAKES YOU FEEL SPECIAL NOT SO IN THE 911 I OWN AN LT SO NOT BIAS JUST IVE DRIVEN BOTH.

Why so angry?

[gigglebug]

TyrannosauRoss Lex said:

Hally61 said:

600Lt ALL THE WAY THE 911 IS GOOD CAR BUT NOT A SUPERCAR THE 600 LT SIMPLY IS AWESOME, LOOKS OF THE 911 ARE NOT GOOD THERE CONVERTABLES HAVE NEVER WORKED THE DRIVE OF THE LT ALSO MAKES YOU FEEL SPECIAL NOT SO IN THE 911 I OWN AN LT SO NOT BIAS JUST IVE DRIVEN BOTH.

Why so angry?

Down to 22 months of pent up frustration building up whilst waiting for the perfect opportunity to get their completely unbiased view off their chest presumably.

Conversely my friends 911 convertible has managed to work perfectly fine and has done so for many years now, it’s never failed her once, but I can understand you being put off if the one you tried was broken and didn’t work. Bit harsh to judge them all on your single experience though don’t you think?

[NeilMcR]

I have had many 911's from a 964 Targa, 993 C2 Cab, 996 C2, C4s, C4s Cab, 997 Turbo, 997 Turbo S cab and successfully lost money on all . I then decided to go to GT cars as they seamed to hold their prices. I got a 991 GT3 which was awesome I tried to chop it in for a new GT3 RS to be told I had no hope. At the time List price was £130K ish. I was later offered one for £240K ( good old flipping ). A few years later I bought one for £160K and it was also awesome loved it. This year when the new 992 GT 3 came out I tried to buy one, ha ha no way not on the list sir, again they are being flipped for crazy money. Getting to the point, I sold my GT3 RS and bought a 600LT MSO Spider. The car is fantastic took it to the South of France drove great. It also got over all the speed humps, they seam to love down there, with the help of the front lift system. The McLaren definitely is not as easy to drive as every day driver. I have curbed the wheels which I never did with the Porsches, and I miss four wheel steer, also you have to be careful where you park with the doors. So I have moved from a Porsche customer to a McLaren customer and I'm very happy.

[ghost83]

Much prefer the Mclaren personally

[ddom]

av185 said:

And anyone who thinks a GT3 without a cage isn't cool doesn't realise what can happen to their head when a car ends tits up.

Always a huge concern on the road

GT3’s are many things, cool isn’t one of them.

[sean ie3]

This was a minute ago, I'll take an LT in Mauvine. Cheers

[av185]

ddom said:

av185 said:

And anyone who thinks a GT3 without a cage isn't cool doesn't realise what can happen to their head when a car ends tits up.

Always a huge concern on the road

Certainly was to the driver of this one which left the road in the IOM.

[TyrannosauRoss Lex]

ddom said:

av185 said:

And anyone who thinks a GT3 without a cage isn't cool doesn't realise what can happen to their head when a car ends tits up.

Always a huge concern on the road

GT3’s are many things, cool isn’t one of them.

Agree.

[ddom]

av185 said:

Certainly was to the driver of this one which left the road in the IOM.

Because IOM.

Otherwise the more normal scenario will be driving to various car shows.