Passing Cyclists!!
Discussion
jackliebling said:
It's not cyclists not paying Road tax that annoys me, its that I think they should have some kind of mandatory insurance to pay for damage that they sometimes cause to cars and to cover the occasional accidents.
I'm sorry, but this is a lot bull****. Would you also require every pedestrian to have an insurance in case they scratch your car when passing by.Edited by jackliebling on Sunday 12th July 10:02
I've never heard about cyclist damaging the car on the country road. In cities situation is a bit different as there is not enough cycle paths, but again if you leave them enough space to pass then you will not have any problems.
pablo said:
I think the key words in your post are “sometimes” and “occasional”....
the damage a bicycle can “sometimes” cause to a car through an inconsiderate riders actions to a car is negligible, a few scratches, a dent on a panel if you’re really unlucky.... But flip it the other way and what’s the worst an inconsiderate driver can cause to a cyclist.... that’ll be death, and that’s with mandatory insurance, registration plates et al...
I just feel if motorists concerned their efforts not on cyclists but on the uninsured or banned drivers, illegal modifications (stance etc), driving under the influence and general hoonery rather than cyclists, they’d actually have a point.
I call out s
t behaviour from cyclists all the time but the truth is they are mostly just teenage morons on bikes and in a few years, they’ll be morons in a car....
Hit the nail on the head the damage a bicycle can “sometimes” cause to a car through an inconsiderate riders actions to a car is negligible, a few scratches, a dent on a panel if you’re really unlucky.... But flip it the other way and what’s the worst an inconsiderate driver can cause to a cyclist.... that’ll be death, and that’s with mandatory insurance, registration plates et al...
I just feel if motorists concerned their efforts not on cyclists but on the uninsured or banned drivers, illegal modifications (stance etc), driving under the influence and general hoonery rather than cyclists, they’d actually have a point.
I call out s
t behaviour from cyclists all the time but the truth is they are mostly just teenage morons on bikes and in a few years, they’ll be morons in a car....jackliebling said:
It's not cyclists not paying Road tax that annoys me, its that I think they should have some kind of mandatory insurance to pay for damage that they sometimes cause to cars and to cover the occasional accidents.
Car drivers need to think about whether an overtake is worth it, for instance when slowing at the lights, there is no point in pushing past a bike to only stop 50m further on at the traffic lights (and bike regaining its spot at the front...)
How often do bikes cause damage to cars, it happens but generally in those circumstances the cyclist comes off worse and the damage to them is greater and the car comes off with a scratch or two.Car drivers need to think about whether an overtake is worth it, for instance when slowing at the lights, there is no point in pushing past a bike to only stop 50m further on at the traffic lights (and bike regaining its spot at the front...)
Edited by jackliebling on Sunday 12th July 10:02
I cant see how it would ever be administered, there are cyclists who are like Petrolheads, i.e. are into the whole cycling thing, then there are people who happen to own a bike, best can expect is maybe the British Cycling Members having insurance.
Cycists tend to avoid damaging cars, partly for reasons mentioned, but also, though I think a lot of folk think that a bicycle is a "childrens toy" like Clarkson says, but see someone on a road bike, its quite possible it cost five grand or more and the owners are quite protective of them.
Never had any damage from a bike to any of my cars, its always the door of other cars getting clattered against my door.
danashby said:
Could not agree more.
How difficult is to understand that cyclists have all the rights to use the road same way as drivers are. And person who can't safely overtake cyclists or other slow moving traffic should have their driving licence revoked. Driving is a privilege, not a right.
Absolutely! Yet too many people think it's the opposite - and drive like it. How difficult is to understand that cyclists have all the rights to use the road same way as drivers are. And person who can't safely overtake cyclists or other slow moving traffic should have their driving licence revoked. Driving is a privilege, not a right.
Cyclists hardly cause congestion, it's normally queues of cars, and annoyingly, one person vehicles. If half of all those people decided to walk, cycle or motorbike somewhere the roads would be a far better place.
evoraboy12 said:
AdeTuono said:
Gweeds said:
Poor little princesses having to wait a few seconds on occasion. Ah diddums. Do you want your dummies back?
How old are you? 4? 5? 
How old are you? 12?
Gweeds said:
Again. You seem keen on a ‘robust argument’ yet see no issue with people wanting to stone riders and wishing death on horses. They’re behaving like petulant, angry toddlers and are treated as such.
Seriously. Have a word with yourself and pick a better hill to die on.
Wow! You can tell all that by my one comment? Remarkable!Seriously. Have a word with yourself and pick a better hill to die on.
I have noticed in threads people have a problem with cyclists riding several abreast. I don’t understand why, what’s the difference between overtaking several cyclists riding abreast at 25mph or overtaking an old duffer in a Metro doing 25mph? Mirror, signal, manoeuvre, Mirror, signal, manoeuvre, job jobbed.
MightyBadger said:
I have noticed in threads people have a problem with cyclists riding several abreast. I don’t understand why, what’s the difference between overtaking several cyclists riding abreast at 25mph or overtaking an old duffer in a Metro doing 25mph? Mirror, signal, manoeuvre, Mirror, signal, manoeuvre, job jobbed.
You’d think wouldn’t you?! The irony is I’ll bet if asked, 99% of posters on Pistonheads believe their standard of driving to be above average, yet they panic and lose all sense of rational thought when confronted by cyclists riding two abreast, an empty lane and no oncoming traffic.... pablo said:
You’d think wouldn’t you?! The irony is I’ll bet if asked, 99% of posters on Pistonheads believe their standard of driving to be above average, yet they panic and lose all sense of rational thought when confronted by cyclists riding two abreast, an empty lane and no oncoming traffic....
Yep, it’s ridiculous and embarrassing to see such comments posted. Inadequate drivers who can’t complete the most basic of manoeuvres, anyone who rages and gets upset at such things shouldn’t be on the road imho.MightyBadger said:
pablo said:
You’d think wouldn’t you?! The irony is I’ll bet if asked, 99% of posters on Pistonheads believe their standard of driving to be above average, yet they panic and lose all sense of rational thought when confronted by cyclists riding two abreast, an empty lane and no oncoming traffic....
Yep, it’s ridiculous and embarrassing to see such comments posted. Inadequate drivers who can’t complete the most basic of manoeuvres, anyone who rages and gets upset at such things shouldn’t be on the road imho.pablo said:
MightyBadger said:
I have noticed in threads people have a problem with cyclists riding several abreast. I don’t understand why, what’s the difference between overtaking several cyclists riding abreast at 25mph or overtaking an old duffer in a Metro doing 25mph? Mirror, signal, manoeuvre, Mirror, signal, manoeuvre, job jobbed.
You’d think wouldn’t you?! The irony is I’ll bet if asked, 99% of posters on Pistonheads believe their standard of driving to be above average, yet they panic and lose all sense of rational thought when confronted by cyclists riding two abreast, an empty lane and no oncoming traffic.... I cycle and the big groups are a bit annoying, especially if they completely ignore you, but in the scheme of stuff I have to wait for, its way down compared to the queue at Sainsburys, trying to get a pint at my local or sitting waiting behind loads of other cars when driving.
J4CKO said:
It takes time, on encountering cyclists in a group to pull over, get PH up on your phone and post a long and impassioned rant about inconsiderate Lycra Louts.
I cycle and the big groups are a bit annoying, especially if they completely ignore you, but in the scheme of stuff I have to wait for, its way down compared to the queue at Sainsburys, trying to get a pint at my local or sitting waiting behind loads of other cars when driving.
Spot on I cycle and the big groups are a bit annoying, especially if they completely ignore you, but in the scheme of stuff I have to wait for, its way down compared to the queue at Sainsburys, trying to get a pint at my local or sitting waiting behind loads of other cars when driving.
Schmed said:
Yes, but why not take it one step further and ride at least two abreast everywhere. Create harmony and good cheer on the roads by holding up as much traffic as possible for as long as possible at all times. Maybe try cycling up the inside of some left turning trucks as well, I’m sure that will also go splendidly.
You know that cycling two abreast is perfectly legal, right? If you don't know how to perform a very simple overtaking you should not be on the road.Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff