Passing Cyclists!!
Discussion
Jazzer said:
Jesus!!
I never said the problem was with cyclists, but I do think their proliferation on already congested roads is an issue.
Why shouldn’t cyclists pay road tax?
I cycle, but do so in evenings when roads are quieter and I therefore feel safer.
Something clearly needs to give here, or should we sit back and watch death tolls in accidents involving cyclists continue to rise?
Fewer cars, fewer cycles and a bit of education would help, as would some degree of taxation....
You do realise it's the cars and other big vehicles that cause the congestion?I never said the problem was with cyclists, but I do think their proliferation on already congested roads is an issue.
Why shouldn’t cyclists pay road tax?
I cycle, but do so in evenings when roads are quieter and I therefore feel safer.
Something clearly needs to give here, or should we sit back and watch death tolls in accidents involving cyclists continue to rise?
Fewer cars, fewer cycles and a bit of education would help, as would some degree of taxation....
Fastpedeller said:
Jazzer said:
Jesus!!
I never said the problem was with cyclists, but I do think their proliferation on already congested roads is an issue.
Why shouldn’t cyclists pay road tax?
I cycle, but do so in evenings when roads are quieter and I therefore feel safer.
Something clearly needs to give here, or should we sit back and watch death tolls in accidents involving cyclists continue to rise?
Fewer cars, fewer cycles and a bit of education would help, as would some degree of taxation....
You do realise it's the cars and other big vehicles that cause the congestion?I never said the problem was with cyclists, but I do think their proliferation on already congested roads is an issue.
Why shouldn’t cyclists pay road tax?
I cycle, but do so in evenings when roads are quieter and I therefore feel safer.
Something clearly needs to give here, or should we sit back and watch death tolls in accidents involving cyclists continue to rise?
Fewer cars, fewer cycles and a bit of education would help, as would some degree of taxation....
MrGTI6 said:
I will only pass cyclists if I'm certain it's safe to do so, leaving them plenty of room. Unless they're riding two-abreast, in which case I'll do my utmost to scare the living crap out of them.
Maybe you need an explanation. Cyclists riding 2 abreast isn't illegal. That aside (and I have been a cyclist over 40 years) cyclists will single up if it's safer to do so. Sometimes singling up (which of course makes your overtake twice the distance) 'encourages' motorist who can't be bothered/don't want to wait for a safe gap, to squeeze past (even with traffic approaching) which puts the cyclist in greater danger. Maybe that will change your view, but I would add that a cyclist is 'a human on a bike' and a few seconds waiting, when you can then press the pedal and continue, isn't a large price to pay compared to injuring a fellow human.
Schmed said:
Plenty of militant cycling muppets out there trying to get in the way with some “primary” road positioning nonsense, and plenty of incompetent drivers who can’t overtake to save their lives even with plenty of opportunities. Muppets the lot of ‘em but one party’s going to hurt a lot more in the event of a collision...
So the vulnerable need to get out of the way....... Hmm what a nice chap!Court_S said:
Schmed said:
bcr5784 said:
MrGTI6 said:
I will only pass cyclists if I'm certain it's safe to do so, leaving them plenty of room. Unless they're riding two-abreast, in which case I'll do my utmost to scare the living crap out of them.
That's moronic! The reason groups of cyclists ride 2 abreast is to make it EASIER for motorists to overtake. If a group of cyclists ride single file then they occupy twice as much "length" on the road. Primary road positioning and two or three abreast nonsense will just antagonise maniacs driving two tonnes of metal.
Schmed said:
Plenty of militant cycling muppets out there trying to get in the way with some “primary” road positioning nonsense, and plenty of incompetent drivers who can’t overtake to save their lives even with plenty of opportunities. Muppets the lot of ‘em but one party’s going to hurt a lot more in the event of a collision...
Maybe one day you'll grow up and get a real Vaxhaull Astra!
OP is a weapons grade cockwomble. Cyclists do not cause congestion, more cars on the road causes congestion. As for the road tax which is actually VED and is related to CO2 output of said vehicle, not it's driver/rider... FFS please just STFU.
We all need to share the roads with each other, maybe if people stopped staring at their mobile phones then realised they will be late unless they rush, so the slightest delay is someone else's fault not theirs for not leaving 5-10 mins earlier.
Everyone on a bike, motorbike, in a car, tractor, lorry is someone's child, let's make sure our impatience doesn't cause the death of someone else.
Have a nice day all, Corona Beer time.
We all need to share the roads with each other, maybe if people stopped staring at their mobile phones then realised they will be late unless they rush, so the slightest delay is someone else's fault not theirs for not leaving 5-10 mins earlier.
Everyone on a bike, motorbike, in a car, tractor, lorry is someone's child, let's make sure our impatience doesn't cause the death of someone else.
Have a nice day all, Corona Beer time.
Had some brainless idiot do this coming over the brow of a narrow railway bridge yesterday! I'd seen the cyclists just coming towards me over the brow, then this idiot in a car appears 3/4 over on my side of the road. He then cuts up the cyclists getting back on his side! Thankfully I'd stopped, nothing behind me, so had the opportunity to clearly mouth "Knob!" as he tried not to look at me! Some people just don't think any one else can have priority, or should hold them up! Or just don't think!!
Cyclists don't cause congestion, they simply cause everyone else behind them to have to slow down in order to get past safely. On a tight road with lots of obstacles this can be a real pain, especially as the traffic backs up due to said cyclist(s). Then you get the riding two abreast thing. What the hell is that all about? Some of the bellends even have the cheek to ride in the middle of the road.
A few days ago whilst on my way to work,I saw one guy on an electric scooter riding on the road whilst going uphill. He was causing a massive chaos with the traffic behind him. There was a perfectly good pavement to use with no pedestrians on it. Some of these f
kers deserve to have bricks thrown at them. And don't get me started on horses and their dhead riders (usually women). The fkers act like they have some sort of right to be on the road... and even let their animals st all over it. This is within the m25 ffs. Shift down, hand on horn, fk your horse, I hope it dies.
A few days ago whilst on my way to work,I saw one guy on an electric scooter riding on the road whilst going uphill. He was causing a massive chaos with the traffic behind him. There was a perfectly good pavement to use with no pedestrians on it. Some of these f
kers deserve to have bricks thrown at them. And don't get me started on horses and their dhead riders (usually women). The fkers act like they have some sort of right to be on the road... and even let their animals st all over it. This is within the m25 ffs. Shift down, hand on horn, fk your horse, I hope it dies.fiju said:
Cyclists don't cause congestion, they simply cause everyone else behind them to have to slow down in order to get past safely. On a tight road with lots of obstacles this can be a real pain, especially as the traffic backs up due to said cyclist(s). Then you get the riding two abreast thing. What the hell is that all about? Some of the bellends even have the cheek to ride in the middle of the road.
A few days ago whilst on my way to work,I saw one guy on an electric scooter riding on the road whilst going uphill. He was causing a massive chaos with the traffic behind him. There was a perfectly good pavement to use with no pedestrians on it. Some of these fkers deserve to have bricks thrown at them. And don't get me started on horses and their dhead riders (usually women). The fkers act like they have some sort of right to be on the road... and even let their animals st all over it. This is within the m25 ffs. Shift down, hand on horn, fk your horse, I hope it dies.
you ok hun?A few days ago whilst on my way to work,I saw one guy on an electric scooter riding on the road whilst going uphill. He was causing a massive chaos with the traffic behind him. There was a perfectly good pavement to use with no pedestrians on it. Some of these f
kers deserve to have bricks thrown at them. And don't get me started on horses and their dhead riders (usually women). The fkers act like they have some sort of right to be on the road... and even let their animals st all over it. This is within the m25 ffs. Shift down, hand on horn, fk your horse, I hope it dies.fiju said:
Cyclists don't cause congestion, they simply cause everyone else behind them to have to slow down in order to get past safely. On a tight road with lots of obstacles this can be a real pain, especially as the traffic backs up due to said cyclist(s). Then you get the riding two abreast thing. What the hell is that all about? Some of the bellends even have the cheek to ride in the middle of the road.
A few days ago whilst on my way to work,I saw one guy on an electric scooter riding on the road whilst going uphill. He was causing a massive chaos with the traffic behind him. There was a perfectly good pavement to use with no pedestrians on it. Some of these fkers deserve to have bricks thrown at them. And don't get me started on horses and their dhead riders (usually women). The fkers act like they have some sort of right to be on the road... and even let their animals st all over it. This is within the m25 ffs. Shift down, hand on horn, fk your horse, I hope it dies.
Get some help you melt. A few days ago whilst on my way to work,I saw one guy on an electric scooter riding on the road whilst going uphill. He was causing a massive chaos with the traffic behind him. There was a perfectly good pavement to use with no pedestrians on it. Some of these f
kers deserve to have bricks thrown at them. And don't get me started on horses and their dhead riders (usually women). The fkers act like they have some sort of right to be on the road... and even let their animals st all over it. This is within the m25 ffs. Shift down, hand on horn, fk your horse, I hope it dies.rossw46 said:
Centurion07 said:
rossw46 said:
vehicle excise duty, based on emissions...
Good one.Same engines, same emissions, different VED rates.
The Mustang in particular is a good one. There's a (roughly) six month production window in which the V8's benefit from the £140 a year rate as they're built after the rates were changed. However, due to price increases over the same period, the list price pushed back them back into the expensive band.
The government might like to pretend that VED is all about emissions but it isn't. The early S550 Mustangs are on the expensive rate, the six-month lucky ones are on the cheap rate before being bumped back up to the expensive rate due to the list price. Same emissions, wildly different VED rates.
Don't get me started on owners of weekend Mustangs that do less than 5K a year versus owners of 2 litre hot hatches, for example, that do +25K and the total emissions of each.
If VED were truly about emissions then it would be abolished and added to the price of fuel.
I do laugh at people getting so angry at cyclists riding two abreast, when it's perfectly legal, they never get angry at the law makers, just those abiding by that law. It's quite straightforward, bicycles were around before cars, don't emit pollution, reduce congestion, keep people healthy, and will be around forever so you're really wasting your time moaning about them.
Now before you say I'm on the wrong forum, I love all things speed related, I ride fast motorcycles, and cars, but christ on a bike, can't we all just get along (Yes, even those dhead cyclists that jump red lights).
Now before you say I'm on the wrong forum, I love all things speed related, I ride fast motorcycles, and cars, but christ on a bike, can't we all just get along (Yes, even those d
head cyclists that jump red lights).VED would be good - it would be free, or even since the government are pushing for more cyclists.... they could pay us to ride bikes.
thing is with a VED the bike would need to be licenced and would require to be registered. and if registered it should be made to display a registration plate. hey presto accountability and those license plates could be used to trace bad cycling.
thing is with a VED the bike would need to be licenced and would require to be registered. and if registered it should be made to display a registration plate. hey presto accountability and those license plates could be used to trace bad cycling.
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