BOTB - rigged?

[The Moose]

DonkeyApple said:

The Moose said:

Terminator X said:

The chance of being struck by lightning is xxx does that worry you at all on a wet day?

When I'm putting the bins out walking past the royal palms, it certainly does cross my mind!!

That it’s the wife’s job?

Obviously not. She’s in the kitchen

[Terminator X]

triathlonstu said:

Terminator X said:

The chance of being struck by lightning is 1 in 14m

No it isn't.

I'm all ears

TX.

[DonkeyApple]

Terminator X said:

triathlonstu said:

Terminator X said:

The chance of being struck by lightning is 1 in 14m

No it isn't.

I'm all ears

TX.

It’s certainly going to be extremely variable in reality as opposed to trying to calculate odds from reported data.

For example, staying indoors during an overhead thunderstorm as opposed to climbing into the roof and waving a long metal pole around. You can co tell the odds from close to a dead cert to a scientific impossibility.

The odds for a regulated fixed ticket lottery are much more closely defined and personal variance can really only be achieved through multiple ticket purchases. On a normal lottery you have to factor in the open ended nature of ticket sales plus the enormous potential impact of there being more than one winner.

What people always forget though is that the purpose of a lottery is not to win but to buy for an incredibly small amount of money, x days of dreaming and happiness.

You pay £1 for a piece of paper that for 7 days is a physical trigger for dreaming about what you might do with the money and the joy that brings.

Paying £1 and taking the odds seriously is the act of an idiot and for them the charge is nothing more than an idiot tax. But for the majority it is an unbelievably cheap way to buy escapism and the joy that brings.

[anonymous-user]

Terminator X said:

I'm all ears

TX.

Your chances in Venezuela, are very different to if you live in Iceland, which too is very different to if you live in Thailand.

Where you live dictates the chances. 1 in 14 million is well off is so many areas.

[Terminator X]

LegendaryGiT said:

Terminator X said:

I'm all ears

TX.

Your chances in Venezuela, are very different to if you live in Iceland, which too is very different to if you live in Thailand.

Where you live dictates the chances. 1 in 14 million is well off is so many areas.

So 1 in 14m is too high then? If so, as I said no one worries in the slightest about a lightning strike or indeed being killed by lighting yet the odds of winning the lottery are multiples lower yet people still play

TX.

[anonymous-user]

isn't winning the lottery the same odds as a blindperson driving you over in a bus whilst you wear a clown suit playing hopscotch in the road on a leap day?

[DonkeyApple]

The Spruce Goose said:

isn't winning the lottery the same odds as a blindperson driving you over in a bus whilst you wear a clown suit playing hopscotch in the road on a leap day?

So you’re saying there’s a chance?

[maz8062]

This is how important topics are drowned out by clever individuals. The OP is about BOTB yet some have spent precious time discussing all but BOTB. Is this on purpose to kill the thread?

Carry on chatting about the Lottery, odds of being struck by lightning etc.

[DonkeyApple]

maz8062 said:

This is how important topics are drowned out by clever individuals. The OP is about BOTB yet some have spent precious time discussing all but BOTB. Is this on purpose to kill the thread?

Carry on chatting about the Lottery, odds of being struck by lightning etc.

Ops question was answered on page one. Insteadnof whinging why don’t you just discuss BOTB? What do you want to say?

[S1KRR]

The Spruce Goose said:

I've started and stopped playing, I don't even get close so not bothering now. I prefer if i play these raffles at least it is easier.

Edited by The Spruce Goose on Monday 13th July 15:32

You mean apart from one of them where "amazingly" the same guy won 3 draws in the space of about 2 weeks!

BMW 140i and a couple others IIRC. (Maybe a Golf?) Though think 1 wasn't a car.

As for the "live draw on FB" using Google Random Generator

Wouldn't be impossible to have a page that looks like the Google random generator page which was actually a pre programmed website where certain numbers came up....

I was suckered in a few months back. Chucked probably about £30 at several draws. Well within my self set "disposable" limit (don't smoke, rarely drink)

With hindsight rather chuck £30 at the Lotto!

[Pommy]

DonkeyApple said:

The Spruce Goose said:

isn't winning the lottery the same odds as a blindperson driving you over in a bus whilst you wear a clown suit playing hopscotch in the road on a leap day?

So you’re saying there’s a chance?

Funny how every single week there are 7 or 8 people winning the top prize on various lotteries here but I never hear that of 7 or 8 people being driven over by a bus whilst wearing a clown suit playing hopscotch in the road.

I understand odds and the maths of it but it is intruiging that the odds are so massive yet almost every day 1,2,3 sometimes more people best these odds and win a lotto. In Australia they have 5 top prize lotteries running each week (mon-thurs & sat) ranging from $3m to $80 superdraws and odds of 8m to 1 to 76m to 1.

In 2019 there were approx 400 top prize winners total out of a playing population of 19m. So whilst the odds of the numbers you have matching another number combination might be 8 to 76m to 1, it does appear the winners have managed to only be 1 in 50,000 and that's if every adult over 16 plays...

There haven't been 400 deaths by lightning here, in fact it averages 10 per year.

So when someone says you have a higher chance of dying by being struck by lightning you are actually
40 times more likely to win the lottery than be struck lightning...

Now, to BOTB, they have given away 500 cars in 20 years. In the UK there have been 56 lightning deaths since 1986.

Edited by Pommy on Wednesday 15th July 00:47

[triathlonstu]

Terminator X said:

So 1 in 14m is too high then? If so, as I said no one worries in the slightest about a lightning strike or indeed being killed by lighting yet the odds of winning the lottery are multiples lower yet people still play

TX.

If you ignore the fact that there's more than one prize in the lottery, you're absolutely correct.

[Mr Tidy]

I only ever entered BOTB once in 2003 when I was heading off to get married, so was in a very relaxed mood!

To be fair as soon as I saw it was simply a tarted up "Spot the Ball" competition I should have walked away but I was too happy with the world at large - but I'd never enter again.

Save the money on entries and you'll be able to buy the car anyway!

[ooid]

There was a genuine chap here who won a 911 T a few years back..

On the other hand, I met potential a client who actually owns a couple of online gambling apps in U.K. Almost everything they do is totally rigged and I really feel sorry for the regular joes who pay for these...

[Robb F]

Terminator X said:

So 1 in 14m is too high then? If so, as I said no one worries in the slightest about a lightning strike or indeed being killed by lighting yet the odds of winning the lottery are multiples lower yet people still play

TX.

Ok yes you win, you're far too smart to play the lottery, everyone is super impressed with how you're the first person to notice it's not very likely to win. Thank you so much for saving all the people who play a whopping couple of quid.

[anonymous-user]

Back when I was still a wee urchin, before becoming a powerfully built director of companies, my school master gave me responsibility for a notice board. He told me to cut out interesting articles from the newspapers and pin them up. Nobody read them but it beat looking for toads in the ditches behind the rugger fields.

Anyway, first article I pinned up was a photograph of Noel Edmunds, grinning, on the launch of the national lottery. The picture was captioned: ‘who better to present a mugs game?’

I think the lottery has redeemed itself many times over through charity mind you; less convinced about BOTB...

[DonkeyApple]

S1KRR said:

The Spruce Goose said:

I've started and stopped playing, I don't even get close so not bothering now. I prefer if i play these raffles at least it is easier.

Edited by The Spruce Goose on Monday 13th July 15:32

You mean apart from one of them where "amazingly" the same guy won 3 draws in the space of about 2 weeks!

BMW 140i and a couple others IIRC. (Maybe a Golf?) Though think 1 wasn't a car.

As for the "live draw on FB" using Google Random Generator

Wouldn't be impossible to have a page that looks like the Google random generator page which was actually a pre programmed website where certain numbers came up....

I was suckered in a few months back. Chucked probably about £30 at several draws. Well within my self set "disposable" limit (don't smoke, rarely drink)

With hindsight rather chuck £30 at the Lotto!

There’s no financial upside for BoTB to cheat. Just look at their accounts. It’s hardly unlikely that a solicitors goes bent. The independent legal chap is always the weak link for legitimate financial businesses. Whenever we have to look into an insider event we always start with the closest lawyer and it usually ends there.

But all these FB and IG raffles that have suddenly appeared are very heavily incentivised to be bent. Masked owners, fly by night, incorrect legal structure etc. They are the new version of a ‘gofundme’ page. All the punters are doing is buying a bloke a car. Instead of using pity to get the money in it just uses greed and stupidity.

[iacabu]

Terminator X said:

iacabu said:

Shame you have to explain yourself to ridiculous comments.

I won £800 on Christmas day which I was rather pleased about. I used to have a direct debit for a few quid a month on the lottery, I enjoyed the thought of waking up to a life-changing email. At the end of the day, someone has to win.

As far as Botb goes, I've tried it but don't like it. I do play the more recent type of competitions like Elite/Dreamcargiveaway/7days etc and I won an Impreza a couple of years ago with Elite Competitions.

The chance of being struck by lightning is 1 in 14m, does that worry you at all on a wet day? Do you think it will strike you at all in your lifetime? Yet you think there is a chance for you to Win Big when the odds are 1 in 45m ...

TX.

I said I enjoyed the thought of winning, not that I expected to. I bet non of the winners over the years expected to win either. But yes I do think there is a chance of wining, as you said, a 1 in 45m chance.

But to answer your questions; no and no

[ghost83]

I played about 2 month ago and got very close to the point that I keep winning little bits of credit every week, this week I won 9.28 which is what was spent out of winnings last week, and again I got very close to the centre!

Haven’t played my credit this week as it looks quite a hard image!





So currently got £9.28 sat there waiting It would be a nice thought to have won the urus and 20k although I’d have taken the cash and paid my mortgage off!

Whilst ever they keep giving me credit back I’ll keep playing

[Alfahorn]

I enter occasionally.

Usually when there's an Alfa as the prize. Like now, I've entered the competition for the Stelvio QF.