RE: 2020 Ford Bronco is 'Built Wild'
Discussion
RacerMike said:
Yeah it's available on a lot of stuff across both Jaguar and Land Rover:
https://www.landrover.co.uk/ownership/guides-and-m...
It is of course made by a supplier, so the usual reliability jibes would be a little unfair.
I didn't know that. https://www.landrover.co.uk/ownership/guides-and-m...
It is of course made by a supplier, so the usual reliability jibes would be a little unfair.
RumbleOfThunder said:
God there's some utter mouth breathers on here. The Bronco Sport is clearly the one designed to be a Defender competitor. The other 2 with ridiculous wheels you're fawning over in the trailer are window dressing and not a serious proposition for 99% of customers.
Er...Bill said:
A bit of a look here: https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v...
Thanks for the link, a useful intro to the features. Alex on Autos has posted a talking head description of the features including the comment with picture that the chassis is "all new" and will likely be shared with other Ford products in the future.
RumbleOfThunder said:
God there's some utter mouth breathers on here. The Bronco Sport is clearly the one designed to be a Defender competitor. The other 2 with ridiculous wheels you're fawning over in the trailer are window dressing and not a serious proposition for 99% of customers.
You would be really, really surprised how people go for pickups with all the off-road options here in the US. Its a status symbol, the way driving a coupe says "I can afford expensive toys".I don't even live in a "redneck-y" area and you see tons of this sort of thing:
AngryPartsBloke said:
SidewaysSi said:
That looks good. If it is around £25k and you can hose out the interior, it will kill the Defender.
Yes but how many sheep can it carry?Can it be airdropped?
How many bales of hay can it fit?
Can you repair it in the most remote parts of Africa with a rock?
That is strangely important to people who will never venture to Africa!This hose out interior is marketing nonsense, I never once hosed out the inside of my Defender, despite using it off road, it had carpets like most of them do! Sure modified serious off roaders have no carpets and get hosed out, but I cannot see a brand new Bronco being abused on a flooded greenlane up to its doorhandles in mud.
A RHD one might not sell well here but I’m sure people said that about the Mustang and I think that was the most sold “sports” vehicle in the UK and EU, if it was priced well maybe?
Trouble is I don’t think it will be priced well. For ref a similar US import, a new Wrangler Rubicorn is £40k + which if used for a second car puts it into nice sports car territory (i.e. a Mustang if US metal is what you want) and if it’s intended use is as a daily £40k buys a decent SUV softroader, which probably does the daily road use better. I wouldn’t be surprised if we see the “Sport” version here because of that.
I like the full sized one, but would I spend the inevitable extra over a Grenadier (should they get the factory sorted)? Unlikely. Are farmers going to buy it? No they moved away from LR and things like this for Hilux’s a long time ago.
MrGeoff said:
MountainsofSussex said:
Surely the "Sport" is a no brainer for the UK, if it's based on the Escape, which, if memory serves, is what we call the Kuga? Obvs, the furthest off road it'll go is a National Trust car park...
Or mounting the curb to drop the kids off...Absolutely ace! Probably no good for the U.K., what with the beautiful summer weather we’re having...but if I lived in California, that’d be golden. Doors off, roof off, fill it full of beach kit and boards and get to it! Next weekend? Camping in Yosemite or any other of the amazing national parks they have. Perfect for America this car, they have all the landscapes you could want and the right to roam on a lot of it all on their doorstep. No good for here unless you like being knee deep in a green lane.
It’s clearly Ford’s attempt to take some market share from the Jeep Wrangler.
I know several people out here who seemingly empty their paycheck every week into their Wrangler to customize it in some way. They seem to buy stuff to replace other stuff they bought only a few months previous to the sell on Craigslist at a huge loss.
It’s always fun to see the custom vehicles as they knock about here - I hope to see the same from the Bronco.
It looks like a cool truck to me
I know several people out here who seemingly empty their paycheck every week into their Wrangler to customize it in some way. They seem to buy stuff to replace other stuff they bought only a few months previous to the sell on Craigslist at a huge loss.
It’s always fun to see the custom vehicles as they knock about here - I hope to see the same from the Bronco.
It looks like a cool truck to me
RacerMike said:
Ford have cleverly launched the thing with 99% of the pictures being of the Wildtrak on it's huge wheels and tyres. The reality is that a Defender would look equally cool with the same wheels.
In reality 99% of them sold will look considerably more staid:
And if you take the front off that, is it not basically the same as the new Defender Commercial?
Oooh. Yes please.In reality 99% of them sold will look considerably more staid:
And if you take the front off that, is it not basically the same as the new Defender Commercial?
One last hurah for the Marlborough man car company. Another rusty wreck within 10 years and not an electric version in sight. Farewell Ford, you stick to your guns as the sun sets on a stayed, inspirationless range - unsuited to the new world. Tesla will eat you for breakfast (they could already buy you many times over if you made anything of value to the car market and didn't owe so many $Billions).
The Moose said:
It’s clearly Ford’s attempt to take some market share from the Jeep Wrangler.
I know several people out here who seemingly empty their paycheck every week into their Wrangler to customize it in some way. They seem to buy stuff to replace other stuff they bought only a few months previous to the sell on Craigslist at a huge loss.
It’s always fun to see the custom vehicles as they knock about here - I hope to see the same from the Bronco.
It looks like a cool truck to me
Cool looking but utterly irrelevant in an electric world... By by Ford...I know several people out here who seemingly empty their paycheck every week into their Wrangler to customize it in some way. They seem to buy stuff to replace other stuff they bought only a few months previous to the sell on Craigslist at a huge loss.
It’s always fun to see the custom vehicles as they knock about here - I hope to see the same from the Bronco.
It looks like a cool truck to me
RumbleOfThunder said:
God there's some utter mouth breathers on here. The Bronco Sport is clearly the one designed to be a Defender competitor. The other 2 with ridiculous wheels you're fawning over in the trailer are window dressing and not a serious proposition for 99% of customers.
I also suspect that the super-duper off road version shown could not be actually be offered for sale within the UK/EU like that as it probably falls foul of our laws for things like wheel/tyre offest, front pedestrian impact, and probably even things like failing the infanous "moose" test!Please remember, the New Defender is a fully homologated EU / UK product. This new Bronco, whilst looking like a off-roaders fantasy in it's more extreme format is not...... (which is why the bronco sport exists......)
Look at how the EU Ranger Raptor looks verses the full fat Raptor the US gets for example in terms of the wheel/tyre and front bumper etc
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