RE: 2020 Ford Bronco is 'Built Wild'
Discussion
I like the styling. I'm sure it would be fun. Less embarassing than most of the crossovers (so-called SUVs) on the market.
As to it not fitting to the UK. There's a big overlap in size with other off, or soft-roaders (e.g. the Defender), so I don't see a problem there.
If it can tow, and can be had for a low price, I imagine it would be bought by some UK farmers. so could be a direct competitor to the Defender (which I also quite like).
As to it not fitting to the UK. There's a big overlap in size with other off, or soft-roaders (e.g. the Defender), so I don't see a problem there.
If it can tow, and can be had for a low price, I imagine it would be bought by some UK farmers. so could be a direct competitor to the Defender (which I also quite like).
From what I read elsewhere this will be coming to the UK and other export markets. Ford are reorganising their car (ie everything smaller than pickup trucks) business into two sub brands, Mustang (anything fast or sporty) and Bronco (SUV's).
The new full size Bronco is based on a shortened Ranger chassis hence use of ranger live axel at the back. Probably closer to Ranger Raptor if you spec the off road options. Engine wise I doubt we will ever see the petrol ones in the UK. Expect the 2.0l diesel and 10 speed auto from the current Ranger as the only engine option here. RHD is a dead cert.
Ford will almost certainly not allow us to select individual options in the UK. Insead they will option up a couple of alternatives that they think will appeal to non American tastes and only offer them. As such we won't get the bad boy 35" off road tyres and mega shocks etc as a tick box option from the dealer. We probably won't get the 3 door option with its glass lower doors etc. I suspect ours will be somewhat more sober to look at and as such will serve as a closer comparison to the new Defender.
The new full size Bronco is based on a shortened Ranger chassis hence use of ranger live axel at the back. Probably closer to Ranger Raptor if you spec the off road options. Engine wise I doubt we will ever see the petrol ones in the UK. Expect the 2.0l diesel and 10 speed auto from the current Ranger as the only engine option here. RHD is a dead cert.
Ford will almost certainly not allow us to select individual options in the UK. Insead they will option up a couple of alternatives that they think will appeal to non American tastes and only offer them. As such we won't get the bad boy 35" off road tyres and mega shocks etc as a tick box option from the dealer. We probably won't get the 3 door option with its glass lower doors etc. I suspect ours will be somewhat more sober to look at and as such will serve as a closer comparison to the new Defender.
Edited by ducnick on Tuesday 14th July 08:50
Ford product planners have evidently been very busy defining this range with its three versions, many options and even more accessories. It is clearly aimed at the North American market - Ford's promotional film said all the testing was done there. The Jeep Wrangler and the recreational market are in its sights. In 2021 US customers for 4x4s will be spoilt for choice. I imagine it will give the Wrangler a run for its money. No journalists, let alone customers, have yet had the chance to drive it, as far as I am aware. It overlaps the market the new Defender appears to be aiming at, without appearing to match the Defender's payload and towing capacities. It will be revealing to see how much on road performance matters to US buyers - many seem to travel long distances to get to their trails - and how that will influence buying decisions.
oldtimer2 said:
Ford product planners have evidently been very busy defining this range with its three versions, many options and even more accessories. It is clearly aimed at the North American market - Ford's promotional film said all the testing was done there. The Jeep Wrangler and the recreational market are in its sights. In 2021 US customers for 4x4s will be spoilt for choice. I imagine it will give the Wrangler a run for its money. No journalists, let alone customers, have yet had the chance to drive it, as far as I am aware. It overlaps the market the new Defender appears to be aiming at, without appearing to match the Defender's payload and towing capacities. It will be revealing to see how much on road performance matters to US buyers - many seem to travel long distances to get to their trails - and how that will influence buying decisions.
A bit of a look here: https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v...Saw my first new Defender in the flesh yesterday and it gets the thumbs up from me as does the new Bronco. Seems like Ford have thoroughly thought this through and produced a range of cars that can be customised to suit a plethora of customer’s needs. I think it’s called model engineering and this seems to be a very good example of how it can be done...
Ford have cleverly launched the thing with 99% of the pictures being of the Wildtrak on it's huge wheels and tyres. The reality is that a Defender would look equally cool with the same wheels.
In reality 99% of them sold will look considerably more staid:
And if you take the front off that, is it not basically the same as the new Defender Commercial?
In reality 99% of them sold will look considerably more staid:
And if you take the front off that, is it not basically the same as the new Defender Commercial?
BrunoVC said:
“Ah $50k. Beautiful. amazing. That's the crap truck Ed drove in Twin Peaks, why didn't you tell me?
Relevance to the UK? Nil.
Sorry for being grumpy, but this is nonsense for a UK website. “
PH is much more than a UK website. I happen to have deep ties to (Including a Porsche in storage in ) Britain but now live in N America - have been looking at an SUV for some time and this article hit the spot.
No American car site comes close to PH btw
Thanks for the nice comment! As for relevance in the UK, we know the Bronco isn't really important here, but in the same way that all those Challengers, Rams, Camaros and whatnot aren't either. They're interesting cars, more importantly, so that's why we write about them. And given how well received the Defender and the Grenadier have been (admittedly with more UK validity), it seemed daft not to include the Bronco.Relevance to the UK? Nil.
Sorry for being grumpy, but this is nonsense for a UK website. “
PH is much more than a UK website. I happen to have deep ties to (Including a Porsche in storage in ) Britain but now live in N America - have been looking at an SUV for some time and this article hit the spot.
No American car site comes close to PH btw
Matt
Just curious to know how these stack up to competitors. I know on Top Gear they made a big deal of Toyota's and their seemingly unbreakable cars. We also see events like the Dakar rally, where entries are bigger vehicles (bigger, as in, not tiny open cockpit machines, but rather regular sized machines).
I look at things like this and, aside from the usual "meh", I query how it has proven itself in competition as being better than others.
I look at things like this and, aside from the usual "meh", I query how it has proven itself in competition as being better than others.
I think it looks quite good, and I could certainly see it selling well to a lot of the same sort of people who bought a Ranger when they didn't really need one. It'll appeal to all sorts of people who have been on holiday to Florida and come back wishing they could have an F150 or Ford Expedition.
Will it actually be as capable off road as a defender? I know people have been arguing for weeks about Defender vs Grenadier with all sorts of chat around independent suspension etc etc.
Will it actually be as capable off road as a defender? I know people have been arguing for weeks about Defender vs Grenadier with all sorts of chat around independent suspension etc etc.
AngryPartsBloke said:
dandare said:
I imagine it would be bought by some UK farmers.
It's not a utility vehicle, it's a leisure vehicle same as a Wrangler.People in America who pick this up will have some from of F-XXX pickup for work, or a German saloon to drive to their dental practice in the week.
Pop the doors off, drop the roof, sling in the surf boards and off you go. I live on the coast and would consider something like this (Wrangler, etc..) for just bumming around in. However, it would probably never go further than 20 miles from home or used for anything other than going to the beach.
M
PeteinSQ said:
Will it actually be as capable off road as a defender? I know people have been arguing for weeks about Defender vs Grenadier with all sorts of chat around independent suspension etc etc.
It should be much more capable. Bronco has front ARB disconnects, coil suspension vs air, lockable diffs, ladder chassis, proper tyres with small rims, solid axles. It's an off roader from the ground up, whereas the new Defender is an SUV.See this article: https://www.autoblog.com/2020/07/13/2021-ford-bron...
The Defender will be better on the road.
camel_landy said:
Bingo...
Pop the doors off, drop the roof, sling in the surf boards and off you go. I live on the coast and would consider something like this (Wrangler, etc..) for just bumming around in. However, it would probably never go further than 20 miles from home or used for anything other than going to the beach.
M
Wish I had the money for a car that's just used for such things. Surely most people buy a car and then have to use it? The situation you describe has to be a bit of an edge case? Pop the doors off, drop the roof, sling in the surf boards and off you go. I live on the coast and would consider something like this (Wrangler, etc..) for just bumming around in. However, it would probably never go further than 20 miles from home or used for anything other than going to the beach.
M
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