Why can nobody overtake?
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5s Alive said:
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Some people are quite happy to overtake even on blind bends. Met this walloper some time ago exiting a blind bend, even with me and the car he's passing hard on the brakes there was only just over one second to this point of near impact. As it was I was on the verge and the ABS let go momentarily as I ran over a damp metal drain cover - sharp intake of breath! Had the walloper also braked then impact (or offroading) was inevitable. Realised later that he was chasing the red Golf GTI a few cars ahead.
Proper overtaking procedures went out the window and so nearly had an accident because of it. Hopefully they will learn from it and can see why it would have been scary but realistically this can happen in other driving situations too.Some people are quite happy to overtake even on blind bends. Met this walloper some time ago exiting a blind bend, even with me and the car he's passing hard on the brakes there was only just over one second to this point of near impact. As it was I was on the verge and the ABS let go momentarily as I ran over a damp metal drain cover - sharp intake of breath! Had the walloper also braked then impact (or offroading) was inevitable. Realised later that he was chasing the red Golf GTI a few cars ahead.
Dont check mirror and pull out? Same thing would happen.
Dont check road signs and drive into oncoming traffic? Even worse.
I'll try to make these my last posts on this topic regarding dashcams.
For those wanting more information on dashcams, there is a forum were dashcam geeks, dashcamw
kers, beta testers and manufacturers hang out:
https://dashcamtalk.com/forum/
For those who've never heard of the Mobius action camera, post #8 in the link below is a good description:
https://dashcamtalk.com/forum/threads/is-mobius-st...
Quoted from the topic:
'The one thing about the Mobius 1 camera is that it is hands-down the most reliable you can buy for use as a dash cam, PERIOD! No other camera on the market has ever matched the ability of the Mobius to just keep working properly without problems no matter what conditions you throw at it.'
My wife, who isn't a dashcam tester, chooses to have three Mobius mk1 C2 in her city car, all equipped with the largest internal batteries available, set to record for a whole minute after 12v supply is lost.
One sees out the boot window. Two look out the front window.
With the front pair, one is positioned each side of the mirror housing, each cam slightly angled outwards so if the two front cam videos are played on side-by-side monitors they show almost 180 degrees of front coverage, plus a considerable overlap in the middle.
If one front cam, or its memory card, or its power supply, fails (or some weird user error), the presence of a second cam makes it extremely unlikely that an incident will be missed.
In her larger car, in the front she has a Street Guardian SGZC12RC V2 and a Mobius mk1 C2 with its internal battery replaced by a supercapacitor. In the rear she has a Powerucc Panorama II S, which is a predecessor of the Street Guardian SGZC12SS.
She has the three supercapacitor-powered cams in her larger car so she can leave them running while parked (her car has always-live 12v socket) and the supercaps cope a lot better with running for hours in a sunbaked car than lithium batteries which degrade, puff up and occasionally catch fire.
In my car, I have a Street Guardian SG9665XS V2 front and rear, plus a former prototype cam as backup which isn't available on the market, generally resembles a Mobius on the outside but has completely different electronics inside.
Below are pictures of the Mobius mk1 C2 in my wife's small car.
They are several years old (fitted summer 2016), mediocre image quality by modern standards (especially at night) but not much matches them for their long, reliable working life.
|https://thumbsnap.com/htwaMo7s[/url]
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For those wanting more information on dashcams, there is a forum were dashcam geeks, dashcamw
kers, beta testers and manufacturers hang out:https://dashcamtalk.com/forum/
For those who've never heard of the Mobius action camera, post #8 in the link below is a good description:
https://dashcamtalk.com/forum/threads/is-mobius-st...
Quoted from the topic:
'The one thing about the Mobius 1 camera is that it is hands-down the most reliable you can buy for use as a dash cam, PERIOD! No other camera on the market has ever matched the ability of the Mobius to just keep working properly without problems no matter what conditions you throw at it.'
My wife, who isn't a dashcam tester, chooses to have three Mobius mk1 C2 in her city car, all equipped with the largest internal batteries available, set to record for a whole minute after 12v supply is lost.
One sees out the boot window. Two look out the front window.
With the front pair, one is positioned each side of the mirror housing, each cam slightly angled outwards so if the two front cam videos are played on side-by-side monitors they show almost 180 degrees of front coverage, plus a considerable overlap in the middle.
If one front cam, or its memory card, or its power supply, fails (or some weird user error), the presence of a second cam makes it extremely unlikely that an incident will be missed.
In her larger car, in the front she has a Street Guardian SGZC12RC V2 and a Mobius mk1 C2 with its internal battery replaced by a supercapacitor. In the rear she has a Powerucc Panorama II S, which is a predecessor of the Street Guardian SGZC12SS.
She has the three supercapacitor-powered cams in her larger car so she can leave them running while parked (her car has always-live 12v socket) and the supercaps cope a lot better with running for hours in a sunbaked car than lithium batteries which degrade, puff up and occasionally catch fire.
In my car, I have a Street Guardian SG9665XS V2 front and rear, plus a former prototype cam as backup which isn't available on the market, generally resembles a Mobius on the outside but has completely different electronics inside.
Below are pictures of the Mobius mk1 C2 in my wife's small car.
They are several years old (fitted summer 2016), mediocre image quality by modern standards (especially at night) but not much matches them for their long, reliable working life.
|https://thumbsnap.com/htwaMo7s[/url][url]-
And some screenshots of the Mobius PC-based configuration software, showing the ability to customise how the camera behaves:
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|https://thumbsnap.com/6BpVqQKt[/url][url]
|https://thumbsnap.com/oKW9YnSL[/url]
And some screenshots of the Mobius PC-based configuration software, showing the ability to customise how the camera behaves:
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|https://thumbsnap.com/WxaY3XPQ[/url][url]|https://thumbsnap.com/6BpVqQKt[/url][url]|https://thumbsnap.com/oKW9YnSL[/url]Edited by RVB on Thursday 9th March 15:08
5s Alive said:
Warning contains dashcam snapshot
Some people are quite happy to overtake even on blind bends. Met this walloper some time ago exiting a blind bend, even with me and the car he's passing hard on the brakes there was only just over one second to this point of near impact. As it was I was on the verge and the ABS let go momentarily as I ran over a damp metal drain cover - sharp intake of breath! Had the walloper also braked then impact (or offroading) was inevitable. Realised later that he was chasing the red Golf GTI a few cars ahead.
Care to share any more - from that image that doesnt look like a what I'd call a 'blind bend' - I'm assuming that the overtake started somewhere between the white post and where the car in the distance is. - But not knowing what the road 'behind you' looks like its hard to say. Some people are quite happy to overtake even on blind bends. Met this walloper some time ago exiting a blind bend, even with me and the car he's passing hard on the brakes there was only just over one second to this point of near impact. As it was I was on the verge and the ABS let go momentarily as I ran over a damp metal drain cover - sharp intake of breath! Had the walloper also braked then impact (or offroading) was inevitable. Realised later that he was chasing the red Golf GTI a few cars ahead.
Nurburgsingh said:
5s Alive said:
Warning contains dashcam snapshot
Some people are quite happy to overtake even on blind bends. Met this walloper some time ago exiting a blind bend, even with me and the car he's passing hard on the brakes there was only just over one second to this point of near impact. As it was I was on the verge and the ABS let go momentarily as I ran over a damp metal drain cover - sharp intake of breath! Had the walloper also braked then impact (or offroading) was inevitable. Realised later that he was chasing the red Golf GTI a few cars ahead.
Care to share any more - from that image that doesnt look like a what I'd call a 'blind bend' - I'm assuming that the overtake started somewhere between the white post and where the car in the distance is. - But not knowing the road 'behind you' looks like its hard to say. Some people are quite happy to overtake even on blind bends. Met this walloper some time ago exiting a blind bend, even with me and the car he's passing hard on the brakes there was only just over one second to this point of near impact. As it was I was on the verge and the ABS let go momentarily as I ran over a damp metal drain cover - sharp intake of breath! Had the walloper also braked then impact (or offroading) was inevitable. Realised later that he was chasing the red Golf GTI a few cars ahead.
OK, how's this for an overtake?
Summer 2015, Gazelle Way, Cherry Hinton, Cambridge, heading North.
The speed limit is 40mph. I had been travelling around 40mph but had let off the power for the roundabout just ahead, so my speed is slowly dropping during the clip.
Near the end of the clip I move slightly left because I'm expecting the car I could see in my mirror to do something weird. I wasn't expecting the car to do what it did.
The camera which filmed the clip didn't capture details of the car but I had what was then an advanced prototype (improved resolution and night performance) on board which captured make, model and full reg number of the car, even in the fading light.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-rhzvKK-Oc
Summer 2015, Gazelle Way, Cherry Hinton, Cambridge, heading North.
The speed limit is 40mph. I had been travelling around 40mph but had let off the power for the roundabout just ahead, so my speed is slowly dropping during the clip.
Near the end of the clip I move slightly left because I'm expecting the car I could see in my mirror to do something weird. I wasn't expecting the car to do what it did.
The camera which filmed the clip didn't capture details of the car but I had what was then an advanced prototype (improved resolution and night performance) on board which captured make, model and full reg number of the car, even in the fading light.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-rhzvKK-Oc
mac96 said:
I see your point, I thought something similar, but if it wasn't a blind bend and assuming 5Alive does not drive an invisible car, that is if anything even worse!
Talking of invisible it did concern me that there felt like an interminable delay between eyes and brain on seeing a car on my side of the road and realising that it was actually coming towards me. Probably only milliseconds in reality.Approach to the bend coming down from 60, now at 50 and still off the throttle.
Point at which he would have been visible but for the oncoming car. You can just see the white mile marker on the right. He was already halfway between it and me when I saw him fractions of a second later.
As anyone with a dashcam will attest the 170° angle of view makes everything look much further away. I stopped further along the road to check for a glancing contact because I couldn't quite believe he'd missed me. The ABS in the Prius makes quite a racket.
havoc said:
RVB said:
Video set to private.RVB said:
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Video set to private.CharlesdeGaulle said:
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RVB said:
Video set to private.5s Alive said:
mac96 said:
I see your point, I thought something similar, but if it wasn't a blind bend and assuming 5Alive does not drive an invisible car, that is if anything even worse!
Talking of invisible it did concern me that there felt like an interminable delay between eyes and brain on seeing a car on my side of the road and realising that it was actually coming towards me. Probably only milliseconds in reality.Approach to the bend coming down from 60, now at 50 and still off the throttle.
Point at which he would have been visible but for the oncoming car. You can just see the white mile marker on the right. He was already halfway between it and me when I saw him fractions of a second later.
As anyone with a dashcam will attest the 170° angle of view makes everything look much further away. I stopped further along the road to check for a glancing contact because I couldn't quite believe he'd missed me. The ABS in the Prius makes quite a racket.
5s Alive said:
Warning contains dashcam snapshot
Some people are quite happy to overtake even on blind bends. Met this walloper some time ago exiting a blind bend, even with me and the car he's passing hard on the brakes there was only just over one second to this point of near impact. As it was I was on the verge and the ABS let go momentarily as I ran over a damp metal drain cover - sharp intake of breath! Had the walloper also braked then impact (or offroading) was inevitable. Realised later that he was chasing the red Golf GTI a few cars ahead.
How is that a blind bend? There is massive sightline there?Some people are quite happy to overtake even on blind bends. Met this walloper some time ago exiting a blind bend, even with me and the car he's passing hard on the brakes there was only just over one second to this point of near impact. As it was I was on the verge and the ABS let go momentarily as I ran over a damp metal drain cover - sharp intake of breath! Had the walloper also braked then impact (or offroading) was inevitable. Realised later that he was chasing the red Golf GTI a few cars ahead.
RVB said:
I used to be involved with dashcam development and testing and I still occasionally get asked to test and report back on a new dashcam, but I wouldn't fit a Nextbase cam in my car.
Nextbase don't put enough emphasis on durability and reliability, but I suppose they want people to keep coming back every 12-18 months for a new dashcam, or charging ££ for repairs to an existing one, because it keeps them in business.
Had mine for 7 years now, although the battery needs to be replaced.Nextbase don't put enough emphasis on durability and reliability, but I suppose they want people to keep coming back every 12-18 months for a new dashcam, or charging ££ for repairs to an existing one, because it keeps them in business.
julian64 said:
5s Alive said:
Warning contains dashcam snapshot
Some people are quite happy to overtake even on blind bends. Met this walloper some time ago exiting a blind bend, even with me and the car he's passing hard on the brakes there was only just over one second to this point of near impact. As it was I was on the verge and the ABS let go momentarily as I ran over a damp metal drain cover - sharp intake of breath! Had the walloper also braked then impact (or offroading) was inevitable. Realised later that he was chasing the red Golf GTI a few cars ahead.
How is that a blind bend? There is massive sightline there?Some people are quite happy to overtake even on blind bends. Met this walloper some time ago exiting a blind bend, even with me and the car he's passing hard on the brakes there was only just over one second to this point of near impact. As it was I was on the verge and the ABS let go momentarily as I ran over a damp metal drain cover - sharp intake of breath! Had the walloper also braked then impact (or offroading) was inevitable. Realised later that he was chasing the red Golf GTI a few cars ahead.
Given that 5 Alive has just come around a blind bend onto that stretch of open bend, this Golf was just chancing his luck in hope that nobody else was coming. A quicker car would have been passed safely by this point.
Evil.soup said:
I would say its more an issue of clown overtaking in a car that doesn't have the pace to pass in such a short distance. Don't forget, the car they are passing could well be doing 40 to 50 so to pass safely in that space you would need something pretty quick. I can't tell for sure, but is it a MK5 Golf, possibly a GTi, but has the wrong wheels to be a GTi, so probably not even that.
Given that 5 Alive has just come around a blind bend onto that stretch of open bend, this Golf was just chancing his luck in hope that nobody else was coming. A quicker car would have been passed safely by this point.
So we are all agreed? That everyone should have 200bhp/ton or greater? as a matter of safety of course!Given that 5 Alive has just come around a blind bend onto that stretch of open bend, this Golf was just chancing his luck in hope that nobody else was coming. A quicker car would have been passed safely by this point.
Evil.soup said:
I would say its more an issue of clown overtaking in a car that doesn't have the pace to pass in such a short distance. Don't forget, the car they are passing could well be doing 40 to 50 so to pass safely in that space you would need something pretty quick. I can't tell for sure, but is it a MK5 Golf, possibly a GTi, but has the wrong wheels to be a GTi, so probably not even that.
Given that 5 Alive has just come around a blind bend onto that stretch of open bend, this Golf was just chancing his luck in hope that nobody else was coming. A quicker car would have been passed safely by this point.
Just back in from snow clearing duties! Yes, poorly worded on my part, the golf was overtaking on the approach to the bend, I was coming round unsighted first by the bend then the cars ahead of the golf. I was fortunate that there was nobody behind when I hit the brakes as I might have been punted into the field. The stretch from that point is now a 40 limit, probably due to the number of vehicles ending up in said field. Upside down, on their side and occasionally on all four wheels - it's a bad spot where water run-off freezes over in winter. We used to award points out of ten.Given that 5 Alive has just come around a blind bend onto that stretch of open bend, this Golf was just chancing his luck in hope that nobody else was coming. A quicker car would have been passed safely by this point.
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