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Hmmm...
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mercedes-E320-cdi-estat...
Perfect. Apart from the dent in the wing and the dingy worn interior and "no rust", apparently. So that clearly visible rust on the wheel arch must be something else.
I'll wager that it is probably like a T-bag underneath the plastic sill covers, just like 2002 model. The floor on mine had also rotted at the front corners but it was hidden underneath the underseal, which weirdly kept it's perfect shape. Upon trying to lift mine up using the jack that came with the car, the jacking point moved but the car didn't.
As a side note, I'm not sure if others agree, but The earlier pre-facelift W210s (up to 2000 IIRC) don't seem to rot as badly. Certainly, my own 1999 model was really quite clean.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mercedes-E320-cdi-estat...
Perfect. Apart from the dent in the wing and the dingy worn interior and "no rust", apparently. So that clearly visible rust on the wheel arch must be something else.
I'll wager that it is probably like a T-bag underneath the plastic sill covers, just like 2002 model. The floor on mine had also rotted at the front corners but it was hidden underneath the underseal, which weirdly kept it's perfect shape. Upon trying to lift mine up using the jack that came with the car, the jacking point moved but the car didn't.
As a side note, I'm not sure if others agree, but The earlier pre-facelift W210s (up to 2000 IIRC) don't seem to rot as badly. Certainly, my own 1999 model was really quite clean.
SpeckledJim said:
Prinny said:
I’m sure I’ve seen that LS before on here? Distinctive background. I’m sure it’s fine, but it’s a no from me for that front plate mounting alone! Aargh!
In other news, SL woes. SL1 has had bugger all use this year, and has thrown up a new foible with a failure to proceed today. Cold start is fine, revs cleanly, no hesitation or issues in the slightest. After around 6/7 minutes, approximately when up to temperature on the water temp gauge, it becomes relucant to rev, leading eventually to a stall and cutout a minute later. Turning the key to restart results in nothing, then an almighty pop/backfire. Come back to it a few hours later and the cold start is again fine, getting the car back home, but running rough the last minute before stalling again.
Thoughts are that it can’t be spark, as it runs cleanly when cold (but will check dizzys and leads tomorrow). Therefore can only be fuel, and given it’s age & recent lack of use, I’m diagnosing a surplus of crud in the fuel lines/tank/filter which settles under no pressure (i.e. off), but is picked up and blocks the fuel line after a few minutes.
Logic tells me it can’t be at the injectors/head, as it starts on the key when cold and runs 100% fine. New fuel filter ordered. Am I missing something obvious?
Suggestion based on nothing more than a hunch:In other news, SL woes. SL1 has had bugger all use this year, and has thrown up a new foible with a failure to proceed today. Cold start is fine, revs cleanly, no hesitation or issues in the slightest. After around 6/7 minutes, approximately when up to temperature on the water temp gauge, it becomes relucant to rev, leading eventually to a stall and cutout a minute later. Turning the key to restart results in nothing, then an almighty pop/backfire. Come back to it a few hours later and the cold start is again fine, getting the car back home, but running rough the last minute before stalling again.
Thoughts are that it can’t be spark, as it runs cleanly when cold (but will check dizzys and leads tomorrow). Therefore can only be fuel, and given it’s age & recent lack of use, I’m diagnosing a surplus of crud in the fuel lines/tank/filter which settles under no pressure (i.e. off), but is picked up and blocks the fuel line after a few minutes.
Logic tells me it can’t be at the injectors/head, as it starts on the key when cold and runs 100% fine. New fuel filter ordered. Am I missing something obvious?
The crank position sensor works when it's cold, but doesn't when it's hot.
I think Prinny's problem sounds more like something is breaking down once it is hot - dodgy earth or ignition lead, crack in the dizzy cap etc.
0a said:
Max M4X WW said:
0a said:
Max M4X WW said:
Looks great, needs 'old font' plates.
I do need a new front plate - but is it not a bit young for old font plates? I got some for the SL and they looked good though ('91).0a you definitely need old font plates. r129sl put me on to them and I have them on the CL, also from Fancy Plates.
That C216 CL500 looks great value in the current market and the seller seems to be a proper PHer, but looking at the pics it's hard not to be struck at how very poor the design and detailing is on modern Mercs. Look at this pic from the cars unhappiest angle:
Did the people who designed the boot ever meet or have any interaction whatsoever with the people who designed the rest of the car? None of the lines or shapes of the boot line bare the slightest relationship to the shape of the lights, it has that stupid line across the back that even the most recent models have that never bears any relationship to other shapes and lines, and the downward fold of the boot lid has a pronounced curve that just disappears into the wing like the boot is from a different car.
Compare to the much better C215 with the nice little lip around the edge of the boot that follows into the rear wings, the cut of the bumper to wing interface matching up nicely with the shape of the lights, and the shape of the boot and rear wings actually matching
And finally the C140, which is a far more rational and calm design but everything works together perfectly, the more you look at it the better it gets. Can anyone imagine 21st century MB going to the cost of that thin piece of the rear wing pressing between the light and the boot lid rather than just running the lamp right up to the shutline? They used to do that under the grille at the front too, but now it's just a wobbly plastic thing like you'd get on a Kia.
I won't even look at the newer models in case I make any of you feel sick. It's inexplicable to me that a company with the resources of M-B produces so many amateurish and lazy designs, having to rely entirely on eye catching tinsel to distract from the ineptitude of the basic design. As superb a machine as my W221 is there is no pleasure to be had from looking at it and absorbing the design because it's, basically, rubbish.
Did the people who designed the boot ever meet or have any interaction whatsoever with the people who designed the rest of the car? None of the lines or shapes of the boot line bare the slightest relationship to the shape of the lights, it has that stupid line across the back that even the most recent models have that never bears any relationship to other shapes and lines, and the downward fold of the boot lid has a pronounced curve that just disappears into the wing like the boot is from a different car.
Compare to the much better C215 with the nice little lip around the edge of the boot that follows into the rear wings, the cut of the bumper to wing interface matching up nicely with the shape of the lights, and the shape of the boot and rear wings actually matching
And finally the C140, which is a far more rational and calm design but everything works together perfectly, the more you look at it the better it gets. Can anyone imagine 21st century MB going to the cost of that thin piece of the rear wing pressing between the light and the boot lid rather than just running the lamp right up to the shutline? They used to do that under the grille at the front too, but now it's just a wobbly plastic thing like you'd get on a Kia.
I won't even look at the newer models in case I make any of you feel sick. It's inexplicable to me that a company with the resources of M-B produces so many amateurish and lazy designs, having to rely entirely on eye catching tinsel to distract from the ineptitude of the basic design. As superb a machine as my W221 is there is no pleasure to be had from looking at it and absorbing the design because it's, basically, rubbish.
Edited by anonymous-user on Thursday 19th November 10:04
I personally think they all look great in their own way, I think that the W217 S class Coupe is a gorgeous car.
The rear end is the weaker point in the W216 design I would agree, but fitting the Brabus lip spoiler, etc has transformed it for the better. I wish they fitted more modern looking rear lights as per W221 facelift.
The rear end is the weaker point in the W216 design I would agree, but fitting the Brabus lip spoiler, etc has transformed it for the better. I wish they fitted more modern looking rear lights as per W221 facelift.
RicksAlfas said:
SpeckledJim said:
Prinny said:
SL borked.
Suggestion based on nothing more than a hunch:The crank position sensor works when it's cold, but doesn't when it's hot.
I think Prinny's problem sounds more like something is breaking down once it is hot - dodgy earth or ignition lead, crack in the dizzy cap etc.
I do have to say though, this is the cars problem. My problems are far more numerous, insidious & frankly, not for discussion in public, even in this most-enlightened gathering of barge brethren. Ahem. As you were, back to commenting on the arse end of big Mercedes coupés.
JF87 said:
Same with my 211. But as somebody has mentioned, a faulty CPS doesn't seem to stop the car once it's running.
Mine did, on a V6 petrol S211. Started fine, got warm, conked out, wouldn't start again until it had cooled down again. Repeat.Simple and cheap fix, albeit a bit of a bugger to get to, low down on the back of the engine.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/JAGUAR-XJR-6-X300-SUPER...
It doesn't quite work, but that somehow makes it more appealing. Perhaps losing the chrome would help.
W00DY said:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/JAGUAR-XJR-6-X300-SUPER...
It doesn't quite work, but that somehow makes it more appealing. Perhaps losing the chrome would help.
Prinny said:
Thanks both - going to have a bit of a look later if work stuff allows...
I do have to say though, this is the cars problem. My problems are far more numerous, insidious & frankly, not for discussion in public, even in this most-enlightened gathering of barge brethren. Ahem. As you were, back to commenting on the arse end of big Mercedes coupés.
I'd also echo crank sensor and distributor cap. I've just had the same problem cured on mine (500SL).I do have to say though, this is the cars problem. My problems are far more numerous, insidious & frankly, not for discussion in public, even in this most-enlightened gathering of barge brethren. Ahem. As you were, back to commenting on the arse end of big Mercedes coupés.
Incidentally does anyone know of a good hood specialist please? ideally home counties but not essential. Where I foolishly left mine to sulk for a year with a car cover over it the inside got a bit damp and as a result the internal strapping for the hood has rotted and perished.
The good news is that the car now has 12 months new MOT, no more disco lights and runs well I just need to finish retrimming the hardtop, get the soft top fixed and reunite them.
Crook said:
Incidentally does anyone know of a good hood specialist please? ideally home counties but not essential. Where I foolishly left mine to sulk for a year with a car cover over it the inside got a bit damp and as a result the internal strapping for the hood has rotted and perished.
This garage is brill. Redhill, Surrey:https://www.caymanautos.co.uk/
W00DY said:
I like that more than I was expecting to. The arm rest must be a replacement, surely? Otherwise a proper colour mis-match.
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