RE: Mazda MX-5 (NB) | Spotted

RE: Mazda MX-5 (NB) | Spotted

Wednesday 9th September 2020

Mazda MX-5 (NB) | Spotted

If now is the MX-5's time to shine as a classic, there surely can't be many better than this one



That the original Mazda MX-5 is a classic will come as news to nobody; you'll do very well to find one that isn't at least 25 years old, for starters, and the styling has timeless appeal. That's before considering the amount of rust that could have got them to by now, or the price some people might believe they're worth. The MX-5 was and is a classic because it so sympathetically updated the traditional sports car recipe and that won't change. So what about the update of the update?

Besides the more generic headlight design, the NB version of Mazda's MX-5 stayed faithful to all of the attributes that had made the original a success. It was light, simple, great fun and good value. It attracted all the plaudits you might expect around the turn of the century, and was broadly considered a decent overhaul of the Mazda roadster. By contrast, when the Mk3 succeeded the Mk2, the mid-2000s NC gained weight and struggled to win everyone over with its look.


Which has meant that, slowly but surely, the NB is being recognised as significant to the MX-5's history where it perhaps wasn't previously. As numbers inevitably dwindle thanks to the effects of time - the Mk2 was introduced back in 1998, remember, and not much better at fending off the rust than its predecessor - so values are being heaved upwards. It seemed like just last year the classifieds were chock full of really good MX-5s at Shed money; now there's just one, languishing as spares or repairs for £1,000 at a van centre. Once upon a time it seemed hard to pay more than three figures for one, which was probably said about the original MX-5 at some point as well. The Mk2 has moved up...

This particular MX-5 Nevada represents almost the top of the NB market for now; more can be paid for something like this 7k-mile (!) car, but we'll focus on the Nevada as it comes with the more powerful 1.8-litre engine. Some might see it as almost too good to use, boasting as it does just one lady owner from new and 19,000 miles. Alternatively, another 20,000 miles could be added to it and it would still be a very low mileage car.


With Strato Blue paint gleaming and upholstery seemingly unsullied by the human touch, it looks every inch the MX-5 dream. The advert says that the car comes with a full main dealer service history as well as an MOT equivalent; it would be worth keeping a very close eye, in both the paperwork and in real life, for the dreaded rot. Low mileage, one owner car or otherwise, you don't know how it's been stored and there are more than enough horror stories now that it would be daft not to check.

But a solid MX-5 still provides a joy like no other. At £6,395 it's more than many will have seen a 2003 car at for a while, and there's certainly no guarantee of that value increasing. On the other hand, it's hard to see a nicely specced MX-5 of this era becoming any less desirable as the roadster concept inevitably has to advance and evolve. Furthermore, if you don't sell, it could perhaps become a family heirloom, to remind the kids what a sports car once was. Then nobody needs worry about future values at all.




SPECIFICATION | MAZDA MX-5 NEVADA

Engine: 1,840cc, four-cyl
Transmission: 5-speed manual, rear-wheel drive
Power (hp): 140@7,000rpm
Torque (lb ft): 119@4,500rpm
MPG: 33.2
CO2: 210g/km
Year registered: 2003
Recorded mileage: 19,000
Price new: £16,495
Yours for: £6,395

See the original advert here.



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sifocus

Original Poster:

88 posts

175 months

Wednesday 9th September 2020
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Had a Mk1 about 13 years ago as a second car. A 1.6 import. Think it had 115 bhp, had a cone air filter and sounded great. Loved every minute in it. Great cars.

WonkeyDonkey

2,343 posts

104 months

Wednesday 9th September 2020
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My first car was one of these, mk2.5.

Cracking car, taught me a lot about driving and self maintaining a car.

Sadly these rust worse than the NA's.

p1stonhead

25,598 posts

168 months

Wednesday 9th September 2020
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Crazy money for that.

The main thing anyone needs to look for on these is rust. I’ve had two - both basically dissolved before my very eyes hehe

TimTum

7 posts

101 months

Wednesday 9th September 2020
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That’ll be sold by the end of the day.....

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 9th September 2020
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p1stonhead said:
Crazy money for that.

The main thing anyone needs to look for on these is rust. I’ve had two - both basically dissolved before my very eyes hehe
Same here, mine flew through an MOT one year, by the next one it was basically a write off!

Nefos

252 posts

85 months

Wednesday 9th September 2020
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It is possible to find some at the £1000 mark on FB marketplace, but they won`t be in great condition, with pictures carefully taken not to show rust, or not mentioning in the description...
I would love to buy one as a project car, but as prices going up on decent ones fast it is getting to the point where a low end NC looks like a decent buy.

p1stonhead

25,598 posts

168 months

Wednesday 9th September 2020
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Nefos said:
It is possible to find some at the £1000 mark on FB marketplace, but they won`t be in great condition, with pictures carefully taken not to show rust, or not mentioning in the description...
I would love to buy one as a project car, but as prices going up on decent ones fast it is getting to the point where a low end NC looks like a decent buy.
I got a 70k mile 2007 2.0 sport last week for £3500. It’s in cracking condition and I way prefer it to the NB. It’s far more usable IMO as a daily even though it’s not mine.

You could easily pick up an NB and change everything on it to upgraded parts - suspension, brakes etc etc and sort any rust out and still have maybe £2k left over compared to the one in this article. Hell I sold my rusty Mk2.5 SVT Sport for £800 a couple years back. Other than rust it was spot on.


Edited by p1stonhead on Wednesday 9th September 08:01

Bispal

1,620 posts

152 months

Wednesday 9th September 2020
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p1stonhead said:
Crazy money for that.

The main thing anyone needs to look for on these is rust. I’ve had two - both basically dissolved before my very eyes hehe
Not really, find another with 19k miles! I would rather have a 19k mile Mk1 or 2 than a newer car for the same price. Its a time warp and they don't often come along in this condition and mileage. 10 years driving at 3k miles a year and it will still have under 50k miles in 2030 and you wont have lost a penny!

p1stonhead

25,598 posts

168 months

Wednesday 9th September 2020
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Bispal said:
p1stonhead said:
Crazy money for that.

The main thing anyone needs to look for on these is rust. I’ve had two - both basically dissolved before my very eyes hehe
Not really, find another with 19k miles! I would rather have a 19k mile Mk1 or 2 than a newer car for the same price. Its a time warp and they don't often come along in this condition and mileage. 10 years driving at 3k miles a year and it will still have under 50k miles in 2030 and you wont have lost a penny!
Do miles really matter that much to people? They certainly don’t to me. Certainly not to pay triple for a car against one with more miles but still reasonable.

This isn’t a rare limited edition Ferrari, it’s an MX5. Do people really cherish them? I’m on my fourth and have always just seen them as cheap fun. They aren’t rare or particularly desirable, especially the NB.

Edited by p1stonhead on Wednesday 9th September 09:18

TheOctaneAddict

766 posts

48 months

Wednesday 9th September 2020
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I bought one for £1100 and beat the snot out of it.

It rusted like nothing else but was immense fun laugh


UmpaLoompa

1,789 posts

162 months

Wednesday 9th September 2020
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Colin Chapman would have been proud of my Mk2 MX5 - it was literally adding lightness by the day as bits of chassis practically fell off due to the rust!
Loved every minute of that car.

sdiggle

182 posts

91 months

Wednesday 9th September 2020
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SOLD!!

bristolracer

5,546 posts

150 months

Wednesday 9th September 2020
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sdiggle said:
SOLD!!
Wonder if its going to appear with a higher price in a showroom with a white background?



griffdude

1,826 posts

249 months

Wednesday 9th September 2020
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Yep, there is the rust issue, but a little bit of preventative maintenance goes a long way & everything is fixable.

Have been sprinting + hillclimbing MX5s for the last 4 years in a power to weight championship, winning it for 2 years against Lotus, Porsche, Ginetta, Honda, Marcos, TVR etc. MX5s with a couple of tweaks are amazing cars to drive.

https://youtu.be/6skTUj--4wE

samoht

5,751 posts

147 months

Wednesday 9th September 2020
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I understand there's a specific issue with the NB generation in that the front chassis rails are double-skinned and behind a plastic cover, so hard to inspect at purchase / MoT time but can then spring a sudden expensive surprise when the rust finally becomes evident. I'd want to be extra careful if paying out for a higher-priced example, that it wasn't suffering unseen in this way.

At some point as numbers thin and values rise, perhaps, the necessary rust repairs become less significant in relation to the cars' values, and accepted as part of the cost of ownership as they are for their '60s spiritual predecessors.

Still, you can get a facelifted NC2 Mk3 model for that money (after they fixed the handling), which is probably where I'd go.

p1stonhead

25,598 posts

168 months

Wednesday 9th September 2020
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samoht said:
I understand there's a specific issue with the NB generation in that the front chassis rails are double-skinned and behind a plastic cover, so hard to inspect at purchase / MoT time but can then spring a sudden expensive surprise when the rust finally becomes evident. I'd want to be extra careful if paying out for a higher-priced example, that it wasn't suffering unseen in this way.

At some point as numbers thin and values rise, perhaps, the necessary rust repairs become less significant in relation to the cars' values, and accepted as part of the cost of ownership as they are for their '60s spiritual predecessors.

Still, you can get a facelifted NC2 Mk3 model for that money (after they fixed the handling), which is probably where I'd go.
Yep. On the NBs often by the time you can see the rust, it’s terminal because they rot from the inside out.

tonymor

1,481 posts

173 months

Wednesday 9th September 2020
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I’ve got an na monza restored by my son in law as my classic. I love it but I’m noticing good restored/ preserved nb cars now so I suspect really sound ones will become more up valued for the known reason that so many get vacuumed off the driveways.

Jamescrs

4,497 posts

66 months

Wednesday 9th September 2020
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I had one of these for around 18 months and I loved my time with it, the only convertible I have ever owned, and possibly will ever own.

I loved the car but as others have said the rust killed it in the end, I knew it wouldn't pass another MOT without significant work and I was doing some work on the brakes when I noticed the rear suspension spring had snapped at the top and that was enough for me to sell it as scrap.

I bought it for £1050, had 18 months of fun with it and sold it to a breaker for around £400 so not bad value really.

NorthernSky

986 posts

118 months

Wednesday 9th September 2020
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What great cars these are. Revvy, light, eager, and just perfect for jumping into and thrashing around your local A&B roads. I've had two of these, in the same blue shade, but 1.8iS, which had a torsen diff and a few other cosmetic changes. For sub 2k for solid ones - and they do exist with little or no rust, just got to hunt for a garage-kept enthusiast owned one - they're a hoot and have been my entry car into a much more powerful roadsters and coupes since.

Happy days. Sold the below for what I paid for it, enjoyed two trouble-free years accumulating mileage, and spent on nothing except for consumables... It went to a young couple as their wedding present IIRC, which is a nice way to part company with such a fun and reliable thing.


jeremy996

323 posts

227 months

Wednesday 9th September 2020
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I bought a 2000 California as a present for my wife - I had the chassis rails and arches done, so hopefully we'll keep the car for the long term.

Compared to a modern hot hatch these things are not fast, but compared to my LR110, it's a rocket!