More cars you didn't know existed...
Discussion
hammo19 said:
I think I only saw Marilyn in the flesh once, when for some reason a load of concepts were dumped in the foyer.
Here she is with:
Back row: Colorado concept, not sure, Hurricane, Efigy
Middle row: Cruze concept, Utester, Monaro concept
Front row: SSX (AWD VZ hatch), Marilyn
21st Century Man said:
Regarding the last few pages and the thread title, how/why would you know they existed? And who cares?
Utter, utter dross of the PCP white goods variety.
Indeed. I often see some random car from a major manufacturer and have not clue what it is (eg. I walked past my local Skoda dealer yesterday having dropped my car off at a nearby garage for its MoT, and its forecourt was full of various SUVs of similar size and I wouldn't have been able to tell you the names of any of them (other than knowing they all start with a K)).Utter, utter dross of the PCP white goods variety.
Gone are the days when everyone just had a small, medium and large model with the choice of saloon, hatchback or estate in each model....
How the general public is meant to pick and chose between them, lord knows, or perhaps that is what the manufacturer wants, just have people cluelessly turning up and being shown some random car in the showroom and being told it is only £199 a month.
In other news, perhaps more along the line of 'cars you didn't know no longer existed', I discovered Holden no longer sell cars, I knew they'd stopped building cars in Australia, but hadn't realised they'd totally given up - I assume because they could no longer get a supply of Opels to rebadge once that brand was sold off to Stelantis.
Jader1973 said:
I think I only saw Marilyn in the flesh once, when for some reason a load of concepts were dumped in the foyer.
Here she is with:
Back row: Colorado concept, not sure, Hurricane, Efigy
Middle row: Cruze concept, Utester, Monaro concept
Front row: SSX (AWD VZ hatch), Marilyn
Oooh, I'd forgotten about the Holden Efijy! When a manufacturer decided to make a lead sled out of a '53 Holden FJ.Here she is with:
Back row: Colorado concept, not sure, Hurricane, Efigy
Middle row: Cruze concept, Utester, Monaro concept
Front row: SSX (AWD VZ hatch), Marilyn
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holden_Efijy
Truckosaurus said:
In other news, perhaps more along the line of 'cars you didn't know no longer existed', I discovered Holden no longer sell cars, I knew they'd stopped building cars in Australia, but hadn't realised they'd totally given up - I assume because they could no longer get a supply of Opels to rebadge once that brand was sold off to Stelantis.
I may be slightly knowledgeable as to why 
Essentially GM decided to focus on North / South America and China, so LHD only, and killed off all RHD development and markets (except Corvette because it was already done).
They sold the Thailand plant that supplied the Holden Colorado and announced both things on the same day.
GM still sell cars in Australia - Corvettes and locally converted Silverado (done by part of what was HSV). So very low volume but big margins.
The only Opels in the line up were Astra (already killed off) and Commodore (Insignia) which were both supplied by PSA.
seefarr said:
Oooh, I'd forgotten about the Holden Efijy! When a manufacturer decided to make a lead sled out of a '53 Holden FJ.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holden_Efijy
Efijy is stunning, and sounds fantastic but Hurricane is my favourite.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holden_Efijy
Jader1973 said:
I think I only saw Marilyn in the flesh once, when for some reason a load of concepts were dumped in the foyer.
Here she is with:
Back row: Colorado concept, not sure, Hurricane, Efigy
Middle row: Cruze concept, Utester, Monaro concept
Front row: SSX (AWD VZ hatch), Marilyn
Hmm I'm squinting really hard and possibly thinking Sandman but that was a different shade and had the integrated canopy rising up if i remember correctly. It does look Big Commodore (VT onwards). God there are so many other Holden concepts that should be there rather than the Colorado (and probably the Cruze). Like that TT36...Here she is with:
Back row: Colorado concept, not sure, Hurricane, Efigy
Middle row: Cruze concept, Utester, Monaro concept
Front row: SSX (AWD VZ hatch), Marilyn
rodericb said:
Hmm I'm squinting really hard and possibly thinking Sandman but that was a different shade and had the integrated canopy rising up if i remember correctly. It does look Big Commodore (VT onwards). God there are so many other Holden concepts that should be there rather than the Colorado (and probably the Cruze). Like that TT36...
It’s the Monaro 427 - red car with black mirrors is the giveaway. That and I found another pic from a different angle These weren’t on display - they were just dumped while they cleaned wherever they usually sat.
TT36 used to kick about HQ but I hadn’t seen it for years (maybe 10) - no idea where it went.
Jader1973 said:
I may be slightly knowledgeable as to why
Essentially GM decided to focus on North / South America and China, so LHD only, and killed off all RHD development and markets (except Corvette because it was already done).
They sold the Thailand plant that supplied the Holden Colorado and announced both things on the same day.
GM still sell cars in Australia - Corvettes and locally converted Silverado (done by part of what was HSV). So very low volume but big margins.
The only Opels in the line up were Astra (already killed off) and Commodore (Insignia) which were both supplied by PSA.
Slightly off topic, but any idea what's going to happen with the V8 Supercars as unless they race the Corvette, Holden don't have a car (that's on sale anyway)?Essentially GM decided to focus on North / South America and China, so LHD only, and killed off all RHD development and markets (except Corvette because it was already done).
They sold the Thailand plant that supplied the Holden Colorado and announced both things on the same day.
GM still sell cars in Australia - Corvettes and locally converted Silverado (done by part of what was HSV). So very low volume but big margins.
The only Opels in the line up were Astra (already killed off) and Commodore (Insignia) which were both supplied by PSA.
Ford race the Mustang (or something that looks vaguely like one due to the silhouette / minimum height rules), but Holden raced the Insignia (as a Commodore) I assume that's no longer good marketing wise.
I had heard the race teams were having to trawl UK Vauxhall dealers for Insignia parts that the race cars had in common (lights, grilles, etc.) as Holden couldn't supply due to PSA now owning the Insignia!
Dashnine said:
Slightly off topic, but any idea what's going to happen with the V8 Supercars as unless they race the Corvette, Holden don't have a car (that's on sale anyway)?
Holden is now a dead brand, GM still retains it but it no longer operates. The very limited GM products that are now sold in Australia carry their original US brands and badging. From next year the GM product in the Supercars (they dropped the 'V8' part of the name a few years ago) championship is the Camaro.
Edited by fbc on Wednesday 27th July 13:48
Similarly, Ford changed to the Mustang a few years back.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/motorsport/supercars-...
https://www.foxsports.com.au/motorsport/supercars-...
I didn't know about the cabriolet version, they're serious money in Japan;
https://www.goo-net-exchange.com/usedcars/HONDA/CI...
https://www.goo-net-exchange.com/usedcars/HONDA/CI...
Truckosaurus said:
Indeed. I often see some random car from a major manufacturer and have not clue what it is (eg. I walked past my local Skoda dealer yesterday having dropped my car off at a nearby garage for its MoT, and its forecourt was full of various SUVs of similar size and I wouldn't have been able to tell you the names of any of them (other than knowing they all start with a K)).
How the general public is meant to pick and chose between them, lord knows, or perhaps that is what the manufacturer wants, just have people cluelessly turning up and being shown some random car in the showroom and being told it is only £199 a month.
You mention Skoda, but as we know it's pretty much all manufacturers. They have seemingly dozens of near identical SUV ranges available in 100mm size increments from 4m to 5m.How the general public is meant to pick and chose between them, lord knows, or perhaps that is what the manufacturer wants, just have people cluelessly turning up and being shown some random car in the showroom and being told it is only £199 a month.
All fit the thread title, even the dealers don't know, if you walked into a Seat dealer and asked about an Altuva you'd get blank looks.
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